Predator Priests and the longterm coverups

[Traveler]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/us/pennsylvania-catholic-church-grand-jury/index.html

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/08/14/pennsylvania-diocese-sex-abuse-grand-jury-report-released/

"We, the members of this grand jury, need you to hear this. We know some of you have head some of it before. There have been other reports about child sex abuse within the Catholic Church. But never on this scale. For many of us, those earlier stories happened someplace else, someplace away. Now we know the truth: it happened everywhere."

The report cites 301 priests, clergy and lay teachers with credible allegations against them. There are 99 in the Diocese of Pittsburgh alone.

Of those 99, a group of four groomed and violently sexually assaulted young boys, said Shapiro.

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"One boy was forced to stand on a bed in a rectory, strip naked and pose as Christ on the cross for the priests. They took photos of their victim, adding them to a collection of child pornography which they produced and shared on church grounds," Shapiro said.

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Shapiro said the priests would mark their victims by giving them gifts.

"To make it easier to target their victims, the priests gave their favored boys gifts – gold crosses to wear as necklaces. The crosses were markings of which boys had been groomed for abuse," Shapiro said.

Because of an on-going legal battle, more than a dozen names and identifying information have been redacted. But the report shows a consistent pattern of bishops having prior knowledge of the actions of these predatory priests, reassigning them and not alerting law enforcement.

Shapiro said his office is not satisfied with the release of the redacted report. Shapiro said each one of those redactions represents a story of abuse that deserves to be told. He went on to say that he will fight to reveal the names currently redacted in the report.

The report states:

"All victims were brushed aside, in every part of the state, by church leaders who preferred to protect the abusers and their institution above all. The main thing was not to help children, but to avoid scandal."

"Priests were raping little boys and girls and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing: they hid it all."

"Diocesan administrators, including the Bishops, had knowledge of this conduct and yet priests were regularly placed in ministry after the Diocese was on notice that a complaint of child sexual abuse had been made. This conduct enabled offenders and endangered the welfare of children."

In addition, the report says administrators and Bishops "often dissuaded victims from reporting abuse to police, pressured law enforcement to terminate or avoid an investigation, or conducted their own deficient, biased investigations without reporting crimes against children to the proper authorities."

"Above all else, they protected their institution at all cost," Shapiro said.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

So many sheep in wolves clothing... They are everywhere.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/current-affairs/sunday-nights-matt-doran-goes-undercover-with-operation-underground-railroad-to-bring-down-haiti-child-sex-ring/news-story/dcecf5950ca5b6d501c48ed927127bc3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTqqYCb-e8

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37826098

There are a couple of names I could name, and 90% chance you would not believe it even with testimony of a victim. Even with the metadata. We are conditioned to trust the ones that intend us the most harm. Sick!

 

[TexasBred]

Every single one from the lowest priest to the highest bishop should be defrocked and prosecuted. That having been said keep in mind this covers 70 years and studies show this occurs just as often if not more often in protestant congregations as catholic. All should be prosecuted. There is no excuse.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

Every single one from the lowest priest to the highest bishop should be defrocked and prosecuted. That having been said keep in mind this covers 70 years and studies show this occurs just as often if not more often in protestant congregations as catholic. All should be prosecuted. There is no excuse.

Unfortunately, it goes back much further than 70 years.

A lot of good Catholic people will be sadden to know how institutional the evil is.

No, they won't be alone.

A holier than thou attitude will not end well.

With as ingrained as "deep state" has become in our government, why would we not think they are just as capable of infiltrating the religious institutions or create one?

 

[TexasBred]

You will always have evil individuals in every religious group as well as non religious. Jesus did not condemn Peter and Paul for what Judas did.

 

[redrobin]

You will always have evil individuals in every religious group as well as non religious. Jesus did not condemn Peter and Paul for what Judas did.

He did condemn the Pharisees for what they did. Your "pope" is a joke.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

You will always have evil individuals in every religious group as well as non religious. Jesus did not condemn Peter and Paul for what Judas did.

He did condemn the Pharisees for what they did. Your "pope" is a joke.

I'm afraid he isn't very funny, but agree with your assessment redrobin.

I find no pleasure in discussing the atrocities committed by someone that was raised up to represent for the people a worker of God Almighty.

That harms not only those of that particular faith, but may discourage others that are outside of the faith of God.

However, exposure of these people are necessary. It is pure evil to infiltrate the offices that represent God and perform the vile acts the pope and others have committed.

Being fair and balanced in all I measure. The well touted Billy Graham shares the Pope's fate.

All those praised in our media and institutions should be inspected fully.

There has been claims of abuse by Graham made- why did they not receive media coverage? Why is the media not pressing the allegations by the American Bishop of the pope knowingly covering up pedophilia?

Both are evil. Graham's son associated himself with a business that fronted for human trafficking, yet silence from the media. Why?

Do you know that the CIA paid the Dalai lama millions?

Do you know that Keith Reneir the "guru" of the sex cult NXIVM also paid the Dalai Lama? (Both false religions, yet many followers)

Control the religious leaders and you control the people. ALL should be thoroughly examined.

The Great Awakening may appear scary, but it is not. God is moving to reclaim his creation.

As redrobin illustrated above, he is chasing the pharisees from his temple.

Pray. Listen- open your mind to his words. Use discernment.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html

300,000 babies stolen from their parents - and sold for adoption: Haunting BBC documentary exposes 50-year scandal of baby trafficking by the Catholic church in Spain

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5230067/Dalai-Lamas-1-MILLION-women-branding-sex-cult.html

Dalai Lama was paid $1 MILLION to endorse women-branding 'sex cult' after secret deal between Buddhist's celibate U.S. emissary and his Seagram billionaire 'lover'

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

https://www.scribd.com/document/387040553/TESTIMONY-of-His-Excellency-Carlo-Maria-Vigano-Titular-Archbishop-of-Ulpiana-Apostolic-Nuncio#from_embed

The Pope removed sanctions on a Priest placed on him by Pope Benedict, and covered up known pedophilia.

The Vatican being a sovereign territory will not save him.

Bye Francis!

 

[W.T]

Sure glad I wasn't a alter boy.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

A 2006 letter from a top Vatican official confirms that the Holy See received information in 2000 about the sexual misconduct of now-resigned U.S. cardinal, lending credibility to bombshell accusations of a cover-up at the highest echelons of the Roman Catholic Church.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-vatican-mccarrick-20180907-story.html

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/not-just-catholics-rabbi-exposes-rampant-child-sex-abuse-by-high-level-jewish-clergy/

 

[Traveler]

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/not-just-catholics-rabbi-exposes-rampant-child-sex-abuse-by-high-level-jewish-clergy/

That's really sick, as well.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/11/pope-francis-compares-vatican-whistleblower-satan/

 

[TexasBred]

You will always have evil individuals in every religious group as well as non religious. Jesus did not condemn Peter and Paul for what Judas did.

He did condemn the Pharisees for what they did. Your "pope" is a joke.

Perhaps you need to learn to think on a level with the Pope and you wouldn't remain ignorant.

 

[TexasBred]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html

Actually cowboy it goes back much further. 300,000 babies stolen from their parents - and sold for adoption: Haunting BBC documentary exposes 50-year scandal of baby trafficking by the Catholic church in Spain

In Spain and abroad, the legacy of Franco remains controversial. In Germany, a squadron named after Werner Mölders has been renamed because as a pilot he led the escorting units in the bombing of Guernica. As recently as 2006, the BBC reported that Maciej Giertych, an MEP of the right-wing League of Polish Families, had expressed admiration for Franco's stature who allegedly "guaranteed the maintenance of traditional values in Europe".[56]

Spanish opinion has changed. Several statues of Franco and other public Francoist symbols have been removed, with the last statue in Madrid coming down in 2005.[57] Additionally, the Permanent Commission of the European Parliament "firmly" condemned in a resolution unanimously adopted in March 2006 the "multiple and serious violations" of human rights committed in Spain under the Francoist regime from 1939 to 1975.[58][59] The resolution was at the initiative of the MEP Leo Brincat and of the historian Luis María de Puig and is the first international official condemnation of the repression enacted by Franco's regime.[58] The resolution also urged to provide public access to historians (professional and amateurs) to the various archives of the Francoist regime, including those of the Fundación Francisco Franco, which as well as other Francoist archives remain as of 2006 inaccessible to the public.[58] Furthermore, it urged the Spanish authorities to set up an underground exhibition in the Valle de los Caídos monument in order to explain the terrible conditions in which it was built.[58] Finally, it proposed the construction of monuments to commemorate Franco's victims in Madrid and other important cities.[58]

In Spain, a commission to restore the dignity of the victims of Franco's regime and pay tribute to their memory (Comisión para reparar la dignidad y restituir la memoria de las víctimas del franquismo) was approved in the summer of 2004 and was directed by the then-vice president María Teresa Fernández de la Vega.[58] Because of his repressive regional linguistic policies, Franco's memory is still particularly resented in Catalonia and the Basque Country.[citation needed] The Basque Provinces and Catalonia were among the regions that offered the strongest resistance to Franco in the Civil War, as well as during his regime.

In 2008, the Association for the Recovery of Historical Memory (ARHM) initiated a systematic search for mass graves of people executed during Franco's regime, a move supported since the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party's victory during the 2004 elections by José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero's government. The Law of the Historical Memory of Spain (Ley de la memoria histórica de España) was passed in 2007[60] as an attempt to enforce official recognition of the crimes committed against civilians during Franco's rule and to organise under state supervision the search for mass graves.

Investigations have begun into wide-scale child abduction during the Franco years. The lost children of Francoism may reach 300,000.

Lets condemn all 1.2 billion Catholics because of what a few did. Let's confuse all protestants for what Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Jones did, not to mention thousands of others.

 

[TexasBred]

Billy Grahams Grandson Speaks OUt

Basyle "Boz" Tchividjian walks a fine line. On one side, he's the ultimate evangelical insider. His grandfather was the famed evangelical preacher Billy Graham, who exerted immense influence over American politics, culture, and theology. Tchividjian has followed in the family business, teaching law at Liberty University, the Christian college of famed Baptist pastor Jerry Falwell. On the other side, he's one of the most articulate critics of evangelical institutions, at times sounding like a new atheist prophet alongside Richard Dawkins or Bill Maher. He says that churches can be ideal environments for sexual predators who target children. And that traditions of shame, male power structures, and public relations myopia help keep abusers in positions of power and the abused silent.

Tchividjian sees it as his Christian duty to root out abuse in the church, and to build defenses against it. His organization, GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment), has been hired to investigate high-profile Christian institutions like Bob Jones University and New Tribes Mission. GRACE revealed frightening levels of sexual abuse and, as he told me during our interview, "the common thread of institutional protection at the expense of the individual."

Tchividjian has even had to deal with sex scandals in his own family. In 2015, it was revealed that Boz's brother, Tullian Tchividjian, had committed what the GRACE board described as a "gross misuse of power" in his extramarital relations with adult members of the Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Over the years, Boz has come to recognize that many churches do not have policies in place to deal with accusations of abuse. And too often they blame the victims for seducing their abuser. In an attempt to combat this, Tchividjian recently co-authored The Child Safeguarding Policy Guide for Churches and Ministries, attempting to help church leaders address difficult questions about predators in their communities and how to avoid further harming someone who has already been traumatized.

We recently spoke with the grandson of "America's pastor" about why some churches protect predators, how sexual ignorance leads to abuse, and where Jesus stood on child abuse.

VICE: How big of a problem is child sexual abuse for Protestant churches?
Basyle "Boz" Tchividjian: It's hard to answer that with any degree of certainty, because the research out there is pretty minimal. If you accept the general statistic that one in four women and one in six men will have been sexually victimized before they turn 18, then you have to acknowledge that those same people are inside of our churches and faith communities. So if you had 100 men and 100 women in your church, 20.5 percent of your church would be survivors of child sexual abuse.

How does the issue of sexual predators within Protestant churches compare with the massive scandal the Catholic Church as endured?
A few years ago, data was gathered from some of the top insurance providers for Protestant churches. It was found that they received 260 reports a year of minors being sexually abused by church leaders or church members. Similarly, the John Jay Report on the Catholic Church came up with 228 credible accusations by priests.

Again, sexual abuse is one of the most underreported criminal offenses. But if you just look at these numbers, they tell us that more children are being abused within Protestant churches than in the Catholic Church. One aspect of that is that there are way more Protestants and Protestant churches than there are Catholics. But for me, it's important to share that statistic when speaking with Protestant audiences so that they stop pointing their fingers at the Catholic Church and engage more with their own church.

I have a friend who is a pastor in a Presbyterian church, and when she started at a new church, she preached six or seven sermons about abuse. She told me that since then, "I've had ten women approach me and tell me that they had been sexually abused as children, and that I was the very first person they ever told." And this is a small church.

I think the reason they approached her was that in preaching about it from the pulpit, she created a safe space for them to talk about it. It's a great example about how most of our churches aren't creating safe spaces. Too often victims are afraid to say anything because they're afraid of how people will respond.

 

[redrobin]

You will always have evil individuals in every religious group as well as non religious. Jesus did not condemn Peter and Paul for what Judas did.

He did condemn the Pharisees for what they did. Your "pope" is a joke.

Perhaps you need to learn to think on a level with the Pope and you wouldn't remain ignorant.

I'll just remain ignorant if those are the choices.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2049647/BBC-documentary-exposes-50-year-scandal-baby-trafficking-Catholic-church-Spain.html

Actually cowboy it goes back much further. 300,000 babies stolen from their parents - and sold for adoption: Haunting BBC documentary exposes 50-year scandal of baby trafficking by the Catholic church in Spain

In Spain and abroad, the legacy of Franco remains controversial. In Germany, a squadron named after Werner Mölders has been renamed because as a pilot he led the escorting units in the bombing of Guernica. As recently as 2006, the BBC reported that Maciej Giertych, an MEP of the right-wing League of Polish Families, had expressed admiration for Franco's stature who allegedly "guaranteed the maintenance of traditional values in Europe".[56]

Spanish opinion has changed. Several statues of Franco and other public Francoist symbols have been removed, with the last statue in Madrid coming down in 2005.[57] Additionally, the Permanent Commission of the European Parliament "firmly" condemned in a resolution unanimously adopted in March 2006 the "multiple and serious violations" of human rights committed in Spain under the Francoist regime from 1939 to 1975.[58][59] The resolution was at the initiative of the MEP Leo Brincat and of the historian Luis María de Puig and is the first international official condemnation of the repression enacted by Franco's regime.[58] The resolution also urged to provide public access to historians (professional and amateurs) to the various archives of the Francoist regime, including those of the Fundación Francisco Franco, which as well as other Francoist archives remain as of 2006 inaccessible to the public.[58] Furthermore, it urged the Spanish authorities to set up an underground exhibition in the Valle de los Caídos monument in order to explain the terrible conditions in which it was built.[58] Finally, it proposed the construction of monuments to commemorate Franco's victims in Madrid and other important cities.[58]

In Spain, a commission to restore the dignity of the victims of Franco's regime and pay tribute to their memory (Comisión para reparar la dignidad y restituir la memoria de las víctimas del franquismo) was approved in the summer of 2004 and was directed by the then-vice president María Teresa Fernández de la Vega.[58] Because of his repressive regional linguistic policies, Franco's memory is still particularly resented in Catalonia and the Basque Country.[citation needed] The Basque Provinces and Catalonia were among the regions that offered the strongest resistance to Franco in the Civil War, as well as during his regime.

In 2008, the Association for the Recovery of Historical Memory (ARHM) initiated a systematic search for mass graves of people executed during Franco's regime, a move supported since the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party's victory during the 2004 elections by José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero's government. The Law of the Historical Memory of Spain (Ley de la memoria histórica de España) was passed in 2007[60] as an attempt to enforce official recognition of the crimes committed against civilians during Franco's rule and to organise under state supervision the search for mass graves.

Investigations have begun into wide-scale child abduction during the Franco years. The lost children of Francoism may reach 300,000.

Lets condemn all 1.2 billion Catholics because of what a few did. Let's confuse all protestants for what Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Jones did, not to mention thousands of others.

First point of order, I did not type what you have quoted me as saying. You should correct that.

Second, I'm afraid that you have the wrong person if you believe your argument of "they do it also" has merit. You should go back and re-read what I said about all of the child molesters. I protect and condone none. Any institution that has knowingly allowed and sheltered the abuse of our most innocent and defenseless should be chopped down at the base. There is no excuse that justifies this type of behavior, especially such a poor excuse as "they do it also".

If calling Jim Jones a protestant makes you feel better, great. It appears that most people believe he was actually the founder of the People's Temple cult of which there are numerous documentaries and sources cited. But the meat and potatoes of it all is that I don't care what you "believe" him to be. If he or the preacher down the street at the Methodist, Baptist or Christian church raped kids and the church hierarchy protected them, they and the organization should be taken to task.

P.S. I've already touched on Billy Graham and pointed out that he and his son are quite evil. But go ahead and gloss over that and keep trying to make it a divisive argument where non-exists.

Your straw-man arguments go up in smoke when exposed to a magnifying glass and light.

Oh and the children taken from mothers being something of centuries gone by? Not hardly.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/04/children-galway-mass-graves-ireland-catholic-church