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Oldtimer said:
What a Shame
Closing Range


By Dave Skinner, 08-29-12
Last week, after months of rumors, news came that American Prairie Foundation (APF) will buy the so-called South Ranch in Valley County from Page Whitham Land and Cattle, giving the foundation control over another 150,000 acres.
What a shame … but that's capitalism, right?

Not quite.
In case you don't already know, APF is a land trust established in 2001 by the World Wildlife Fund. Its mission is buy up ranches in order to create a multi-million-acre buffalo park in Northeast Montana, using the C.M. Russell (CMR) refuge as an anchor.

Previously, APF bought 12 ranches in south Phillips County controlling 121,000 mostly-public acres, which has area producers, as County Commissioner Leslie Robinson put it to me, "worried about losing our community."

It's obvious why APF sought the South Ranch. I've been there, most recently last spring. Southwest of Glasgow in the Larb Hills next to the CMR, at the right times of year it's just wonderful, an emerald sea of grass. At the wrong times, it can be, um, heck.

Geographically, the South Ranch fits APF's agenda perfectly, controlling a huge block of BLM land clear from the CMR to the Milk River. Across the Milk north of Hinsdale are the Bitter Creek proposed wilderness and Canada's Grasslands National Park, which APF hopes to "link" directly with the CMR.


Sadly, it's equally obvious why APF got the South Ranch. Steve Page felt it necessary to write an open letter explaining the decision to sell. Among other things, he discussed the incremental loss and eventual termination of grazing rights on the CMR over time, including increases in fees from $1.35 to over $23 per animal unit month.

Coupled with other fee increases on state lands, political uncertainties at both the state and federal level, plus past (and likely future) bad experiences with the courts – "our South Ranch no longer provides viable opportunity for future ranching generations and it is not without emotion that we have chosen to sell."

While APF prefers to pose as a "private" group restoring bison, and is paying property taxes, as a nonprofit APF has critical, even unfair, advantages over every other genuinely private purchaser.

First, APF pays no income taxes, even if profitable – and APF is supported by wealthy "benefactors." More important, APF's wealthy "benefactors" get a big "charitable" tax break on their donations as well. Every dollar given to APF is effectively worth 35 percent more than if the same dollar went to buy a privately held ranch. There's no way any private, "real" rancher could match the money APF can afford to offer.

Who are these benefactors? My favorite is candy tycoon Forrest Mars, Jr., who has given at least $400,000 (brother John Mars has given over $5 million) to APF.


In roughly 2004, Mars bought the Diamond Cross, a split-estate ranch on the Tongue River. But the subsurface mineral rights (coalbed methane) were leased by Pinnacle Gas Resources. Mars sued to block Pinnacle from drilling, and lost.

In the meantime, Mars was secretly bankrolling the Northern Plains Resource Council's litigation against the Tongue River Railroad. When Mars lost faith in NPRC's ability to permanently block construction, he jumped ship, buying a one-third share in the railroad with the condition it not be built through his ranch. That's not real beneficent or benevolent, is it?

As for the idea that APF's "private" project will stay private, email records demanded by Congress from the Department of Interior a couple of years ago show otherwise. A World Wildlife Fund staffer seeking Land and Water Conservation Fund priority status wrote that funding a 3.5-million-acre reserve "could range from $30M to $300M [million]." In short, APF hoped to "flip" its holdings to the federal government for a park the instant the funds become available – and probably still does. They can probably afford to wait, as long as it takes.

Faced with all that, is it any wonder Mr. Page and his family decided to get the heck out sooner rather than later? No, and that's the real shame.

http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/what_a_shame/29430/

Here is an article with more explanation of how these organizations operate...

wish you would hear more about this stuff. enjoyed the article but i wouldn't have pictured you getting your news from kalispell especially after your comments on the people of the area.
 
Hereford76 said:
Oldtimer said:
What a Shame
Closing Range


By Dave Skinner, 08-29-12
Last week, after months of rumors, news came that American Prairie Foundation (APF) will buy the so-called South Ranch in Valley County from Page Whitham Land and Cattle, giving the foundation control over another 150,000 acres.
What a shame … but that's capitalism, right?

Not quite.
In case you don't already know, APF is a land trust established in 2001 by the World Wildlife Fund. Its mission is buy up ranches in order to create a multi-million-acre buffalo park in Northeast Montana, using the C.M. Russell (CMR) refuge as an anchor.

Previously, APF bought 12 ranches in south Phillips County controlling 121,000 mostly-public acres, which has area producers, as County Commissioner Leslie Robinson put it to me, "worried about losing our community."

It's obvious why APF sought the South Ranch. I've been there, most recently last spring. Southwest of Glasgow in the Larb Hills next to the CMR, at the right times of year it's just wonderful, an emerald sea of grass. At the wrong times, it can be, um, heck.

Geographically, the South Ranch fits APF's agenda perfectly, controlling a huge block of BLM land clear from the CMR to the Milk River. Across the Milk north of Hinsdale are the Bitter Creek proposed wilderness and Canada's Grasslands National Park, which APF hopes to "link" directly with the CMR.


Sadly, it's equally obvious why APF got the South Ranch. Steve Page felt it necessary to write an open letter explaining the decision to sell. Among other things, he discussed the incremental loss and eventual termination of grazing rights on the CMR over time, including increases in fees from $1.35 to over $23 per animal unit month.

Coupled with other fee increases on state lands, political uncertainties at both the state and federal level, plus past (and likely future) bad experiences with the courts – "our South Ranch no longer provides viable opportunity for future ranching generations and it is not without emotion that we have chosen to sell."

While APF prefers to pose as a "private" group restoring bison, and is paying property taxes, as a nonprofit APF has critical, even unfair, advantages over every other genuinely private purchaser.

First, APF pays no income taxes, even if profitable – and APF is supported by wealthy "benefactors." More important, APF's wealthy "benefactors" get a big "charitable" tax break on their donations as well. Every dollar given to APF is effectively worth 35 percent more than if the same dollar went to buy a privately held ranch. There's no way any private, "real" rancher could match the money APF can afford to offer.

Who are these benefactors? My favorite is candy tycoon Forrest Mars, Jr., who has given at least $400,000 (brother John Mars has given over $5 million) to APF.


In roughly 2004, Mars bought the Diamond Cross, a split-estate ranch on the Tongue River. But the subsurface mineral rights (coalbed methane) were leased by Pinnacle Gas Resources. Mars sued to block Pinnacle from drilling, and lost.

In the meantime, Mars was secretly bankrolling the Northern Plains Resource Council's litigation against the Tongue River Railroad. When Mars lost faith in NPRC's ability to permanently block construction, he jumped ship, buying a one-third share in the railroad with the condition it not be built through his ranch. That's not real beneficent or benevolent, is it?

As for the idea that APF's "private" project will stay private, email records demanded by Congress from the Department of Interior a couple of years ago show otherwise. A World Wildlife Fund staffer seeking Land and Water Conservation Fund priority status wrote that funding a 3.5-million-acre reserve "could range from $30M to $300M [million]." In short, APF hoped to "flip" its holdings to the federal government for a park the instant the funds become available – and probably still does. They can probably afford to wait, as long as it takes.

Faced with all that, is it any wonder Mr. Page and his family decided to get the heck out sooner rather than later? No, and that's the real shame.

http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/what_a_shame/29430/

Here is an article with more explanation of how these organizations operate...

wish you would hear more about this stuff. enjoyed the article but i wouldn't have pictured you getting your news from kalispell especially after your comments on the people of the area.


I actually found it on the Property Rights and Buffalo page on Face Book... One of our off and on ranchersnet posters that has done a lot of research on these groups had posted it there- so I'm going on his posting it giving it veracity... I thought it better demonstrated the structure of the APF and how these folks are going to use "capitalism" to get their buffalo range...
 
Oldtimer said:
Hereford76 said:
Oldtimer said:
Here is an article with more explanation of how these organizations operate...

wish you would hear more about this stuff. enjoyed the article but i wouldn't have pictured you getting your news from kalispell especially after your comments on the people of the area.


I actually found it on the Property Rights and Buffalo page on Face Book... One of our off and on ranchersnet posters that has done a lot of research on these groups had posted it there- so I'm going on his posting it giving it veracity... I thought it better demonstrated the structure of the APF and how these folks are going to use "capitalism" to get their buffalo range...

The Montana Stockgrowers Association had a link to the article in their weekly email news letter too.
 
Just to update everyone-- I learned that not only does Page/Whitham apparently own multiple ranchs around the state/country (some of which I know that over the past 20 years they have used playing politics when the right folks were in office , land swaps with the State and Feds, and conservation easements to get more land/ tax benis)- and feedlots-- they also own multiple banks (estimate was 6-12) and implement dealerships and have never really had a true longterm landowners interest to the land (or any of the other ranchs they have traded around)... The closest interest is that one of the MT resident overseers (who's % of corporate ownership is estimated by some at 20-25%) 40+ years ago married the daughter of the previous owner/leasee of the land who was retiring/selling out.....Most locally see this more as a corporate entity rather than the traditional multigenerational family ranching...

IRONICALLY regarding the same issue-- last week our local Farm Bureau finally all saw the handwriting on the wall- and came out opposing Conservation Easements ( that the NCBA a few years ago crawled in bed with the greeny weenies to have the Congress create so they could all profiteer off of) and denouced them as the evil they are- which is leading this country into more easily being taken over by the green/buffalo/antelope run wild- American Serengeti folks that are pushing for (and I'd bet with the international green money they have been getting donated) a complete buffalo/antelope pasture from inside Canada- undivided clear to Texas within 30 years.....

Locally no one faults Mr. Page in the sellout ( as most see him as just an interest holder in a much larger corporate enterprise - the 20% man who in the dealing probably made himself and his family millions $ , while making his Corporation much more)- but they do question the whole capitalist part behind the public lands system-- which is now allowing multi millionare investors (many- many from foreign countries) that thru the American Prairie Foundation/World Wildlife Foundation are being allowed to buy up the center of our countrys prairies...
 
Hereford76 said:
and yet you still stand with BS?

I've never stood with BS on this buffalo plan...I think he did great working with the USDA and getting us the brucellosis buffer zone around Yellowstone- but think he and his fish and game folks have lost their minds now wanting to start freeroaming buffalo in the state...

I and several others (members of a sportsmen group) told both Testor and Bullock that if they couldn't get him and his F&G Board to come to his/their senses, that I/we didn't think they would/could get another Dem cultist elected in years to come..
 

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