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Northern Rancher

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I've had some discussions over the last month or so with people involved in pretty much every segment of the cattle business. I'm not sure what to make about the homogenizing of the North American cattle genetics-it seems to be that by all breeds becoming black and trying to be all things to everybody we are losing some of the differences that made them strong. It used to be if you purchased a set of british bred females you were pretty secure in the knowledge they'd make mother cows under ranch conditions-if you bought exotic bulls there was a good chance they'd improve yield grade if used back on those british cows. It's a conundrum. I know ourselves if we try and improve yield grade too much we start to have cattle fall out on the cow side of things-basically I've made the decisions to live with some Y3's and try and make profit by keeping cow carrying costs inline. I always keep a few benchmark cows to judge our straightbred cattle against-if the brahma/jersey cross heifers are doing well-everything else had better be thriving-unfortunately it's not always the case.
 
It's interesting that you mention jersey's. I had a fine old friend who was quite cow savvy who loved jerseys. He figured about 3/8 jersey was about right in mother cow.

After 1st calf, he'd put charolais bulls on them. According to him, they were the only high milking cow developed to milk off of grass alone. Had a tremendous pelvic size, in comparsion to their own size. Internalized their fat, like deer--this went somewhat to marbling, tenderness. And extremely fertile.

He had a set of them out on shares==partially calved out and he hadn't kept tabs on them. Many of these cows were in bcs of about a 2. Horrible deal---almost starved to death. I took them on shares, as he had no place to go. They calved out, weaned decent calves, put on some weight and bred back.

I'm pretty casual about taking my bulls out---figure a late cow, you got options, an open one you don't. But with these--you gotta or lutelyce hiefer calves---

A pretty good sized outfit north of here runs straight herefords, must pretty much let them calve on thier own. Uses 3/4 or full jerseys on their heifers. My buddy bought the heifer calves off the heifers--100+ of them. I helped preg them---wildest little bunch of sumbitchs you ever saw---when you moved them from big pen to smaller one going to alley, they'd flow up the side of pen---like quickly dumping water from one bowl into another. One of them little darlings ran by me at mach 1, about 4 feet away, sunfished and kicked me in the knee cap with both hind feet. As vet said, as I got back to my feet from kick and he got straightened up from laughing himself sick---"quite athletic little devils, aint they?"

My old buddy put togethor a presentation/show me deal on his program. He had a couple college professors from ohio, an economic developement guy and an extension type, also from ohio and a local charolais breeder. We looked at the cattle, then he had an indoor presentation---and the college professors was taking notes. Priceless.

I asked them what their angle was. They said they had hundreds of thousands of acres of reclaimed coal ground, could probably graze 10 1/2 mos of the yr, and multiple generations of people on welfare. Figured a smaller framed cow, with potential to produce big beef calves and good disposition might be a good fit.

These were nice cattle to work---with one exception, and I put that down to envirionment.
 
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Here is my benchmark cow if she is in halfways good rig the rest better be too.
 

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