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Recalls Still coming in, Part 2

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Oldtimer said:
PORKER said:
The truth from Parnall , the Mafia king in rotten and contaminated food ,should be water boarded out of him and 50 yrs.to life behind bars for murder.

They are replaying the hearings on C-SPAN again right now... I think some of the victims relatives that testified- after all the evidence introduced showed it was knowingly and intentional- would volunteer to do the water boarding...

The new ranking minority member- Waldon from Oregon could be a great addition to that committee... He doesn't appear he will take any bull....Offered Parnall some of his own products to eat... He again took the 5th...

There will be some tough regulation and oversight coming out over both FDA/USDA and these food producers this year....

The Republican government ideology: "Let them regulate themselves, they have a profit motive to do it, and so do we."

If the republicans/democrats do not shed their fascist side, they will be run out of the country.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/02/financial-services-members-to.html
 
Tex said:
Oldtimer said:
PORKER said:
The truth from Parnall , the Mafia king in rotten and contaminated food ,should be water boarded out of him and 50 yrs.to life behind bars for murder.

They are replaying the hearings on C-SPAN again right now... I think some of the victims relatives that testified- after all the evidence introduced showed it was knowingly and intentional- would volunteer to do the water boarding...

The new ranking minority member- Waldon from Oregon could be a great addition to that committee... He doesn't appear he will take any bull....Offered Parnall some of his own products to eat... He again took the 5th...

There will be some tough regulation and oversight coming out over both FDA/USDA and these food producers this year....

The Republican government ideology: "Let them regulate themselves, they have a profit motive to do it, and so do we."

If the republicans/democrats do not shed their fascist side, they will be run out of the country.

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2009/02/financial-services-members-to.html

Yep- Interestingly- Halfway thru the hearing (and possibly for media play) they announced the 9th victim of this knowingly and intentionally selling tainted product had died- and that now the number sickened had reached over 900 "reported"....
They also showed the letters and the e-mails where this fellow Parnall was pressuring FDA to hurry up and release his products- because he needed to turn them into money....Again the new US business policy- GREED over ETHICS... INSTANT RETURN over LONGTERM INDUSTRY VIABILITY... Same thing we saw in the Canadian BSE issue....

The Republican government ideology: "Let them regulate themselves, they have a profit motive to do it, and so do we."

That no longer works after the "Walmarting of America"- where products come from anywhere and everywhere and are sub distributed thru hundreds of smaller subnames and packagers...

We may not like some of the stuff thats going to come down- but food processors are going to be regulated...The handwritings on the wall...

Another interesting point- was the policeman, who's son had almost died, testified to the fact that the lady home watching his dog had said we do not live in China- we're supposed to be a First World country----Stupak told him that not only had some of the product came from China- but they were now finding this tainted product in dog food too... :roll:
 
The Republican government ideology: "Let them regulate themselves, they have a profit motive to do it, and so do we."

By and large this is a true statement and should work if you have honest players that really care for their company. Everything has a balance.

The people at the Peanut Corp of America may get criminally prosecuted, but the biggest deterrent they will face is the Bankruptcy of their company due to the numerous lawsuits that will inevitably be filed against them personally and against the corporation. No doubt, the stockholders will also file suits against the higher ups in PCA for their loss in their company investment.

In other words, along with profit motives that go along with producing a quality product, big corporations also have the chance to lose everything should they not regulate themselves properly.

Self regulation should work. It does is most cases. But it's the ones we hear about, or make the news, that makes it seem like it doesn't.
 
Mike said:
The Republican government ideology: "Let them regulate themselves, they have a profit motive to do it, and so do we."

By and large this is a true statement and should work if you have honest players that really care for their company. Everything has a balance.

The people at the Peanut Corp of America may get criminally prosecuted, but the biggest deterrent they will face is the Bankruptcy of their company due to the numerous lawsuits that will inevitably be filed against them personally and against the corporation. No doubt, the stockholders will also file suits against the higher ups in PCA for their loss in their company investment.

In other words, along with profit motives that go along with producing a quality product, big corporations also have the chance to lose everything should they not regulate themselves properly.

Self regulation should work. It does is most cases. But it's the ones we hear about, or make the news, that makes it seem like it doesn't.

We have to be careful that there is no short term incentive to do these things. In the case of Madoff, a little regulation and oversight would have saved billions from a fraud ponzi scheme. Regulation is not supposed to stifle capitalism, but to keep it within the known rules of the market to keep it working. It also keeps the scammers from seemingly profiting from scams and winning in the competition game.

The fundamentals of the financial world were undermined for a while by Wall Street before the current failure and now the taxpayer is bailing them out while they continue to pay out big bonuses to "save capitalism". Good regulations that were enforced could have stopped the greed before it destroyed the system.

In the agriculture industry, the laws of the markets are being ignored by fascist elements in politics and the courts and it is causing great injustices and a reallocation of wealth to crooks. Enforcement of the laws allow the corrections to be smaller and less dramatic than the alternative. Madoff and Wall Street lived high for a while and still have it better than most even now.

It just isn't right.
 
Texas PCA shut down too!

– Texas has ordered a recall of all products ever shipped from a now-closed Peanut Corp. of America plant in Plainview amid a nationwide salmonella outbreak.

The order came Thursday evening from the Department of State Health Services. The agency says "dead rodents, rodent excrement and bird feathers" were discovered Wednesday in a crawl space above a production area.

A state inspection also found that the unit's air handling system was pulling debris from the infested crawl space into production areas.

The plant began operating in March 2005 but was shut down earlier this week.

The health department order also requires the plant to stop producing and distributing food products.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Texas has ordered a recall of all products ever shipped from a now-closed Peanut Corp. of American plant in Plainview amid a nationwide salmonella outbreak.

The order came Thursday evening from the Department of State Health Services. The agency says "dead rodents, rodent excrement and bird feathers" were discovered Wednesday in a crawl space above a production area.

A state inspection also found that the unit's air handling system was pulling debris from the infested crawl space into production areas.

The plant began operating in March 2005 but was shut down earlier this week.

The health department order also requires the plant to stop producing and distributing food products.
 
I'll bet they went over that Texas plant with a fine tooth comb- now that they found it :shock: They never even knew it existed or had inspected it- and it had operated for years....
I can't believe these folks can open and operate a food production plant without registering with the state and federal government....I can remember back in the 50's when my Dad and Uncles ran a dairy, besides the range cattle, and there were all kinds of restrictions and rules- even about where your license was visably shown- along with periodic and unannounced inspections- both by the State and the Feds.....
Sad that all that work on food safety- and trust that was built up with the American consumers has got thrown down the drain in the last few years.... :(
 
THe bad news on the peanut product front keeps on coming. The nationwide recall of all Peanut Corporation of America (PCA) products is now the second largest recall on record, and has touched both the conventional and organic food industries. Hundreds of illnesses have been confirmed and at least eight deaths. The full, final scope of the outbreak is likely to be substantially larger, and this story will remain in the news for months to come.

The USDA has revoked the right of the PCA to sell any products to the school lunch or other government feeding programs.

And on February 5, 2009, Andy Martin of the New York Times broke the story that the Peanut Corporation of America had passed two recent audits with flying colors by independent, food safety audit firms. The audits were carried out by AIB International, a Manhattan, Kansas-based firm. https://www.aibonline.org/auditservices/index.html

Editor's Note: This story raises serious questions about the completeness and quality of third-party food safety audits that are now commonplace across the conventional food industry.

In addition, the same companies carrying out food safety audits are jockeying for position to also certify "sustainability" against as-yet finalized standards under development by several organizations.


In the case of microbiological contamination, the proven method to verify safety is product testing using independent, accredited labs. In earlier coverage of this outbreak, the FDA's inspection report was disclosed and analyzed. Over the last several months, twelve samples of PCA peanut products tested positive for Salmonella. In response, PCA had another company retest the samples, and all were found negative, so the product was shipped. Sound a little fishy?

AIB International Auditors
(alphabetical order by last name)

J Acosta
I Alcantara
R Amsbary
J Anderson
T Auer
A Avraham
S Bame
A Barnett
A Beall
M Beumala
B Biegel
B Blair
O Bloom
R Brittain
K Brockmeier
G Burgess
J Burgess
D Capra
M Carrera
J Carson
M Cascabelo
S Chao
A Cheng
R Cochran
R Cooper
J Diament
M Eder
J Elizondo
G El Jadam
S Eryilmaz
B Fisher
G Fisher
D Freeman
T French
L Germain
T Golly
D Gutierrez
G Haar
A Hanley
E Hatfield
E Hayes
E Hitch
M Hoberg
J Hughes
C Hugo
J Huseman
Y Inoue, PhD
M Jitsukawa
C Jooste
H Kan
J Kay
R Knowles
G Latreille
T Lawrence
J Lazaro
J Leal
T Lehmann
P Lennon
L Leuthart
A Lizarraga
J Love
S Luna
N Mack
E Martinez
J Massey
C Mead
J Melville
R Molter
T Moore
E Nathaniel
T Newbold
K O´Donnell
H Obert
J Ortega
E Pacheco
E Pagel
C Pappas
A Pendleton
M Perry
L Picado
M Pleasant
A Pons
W Pursley
A Raschke
P Ray
L Reeve
J Rightor
S Rognon
E Rosen
J Rudkin
M Rupp
J Sallisky
D Sanner
T Sieloff
C Smith
K Snay
V Sopr
A St. Cyr
L Steed
K Steinke
P Stewart
L Stratford
B Strouts
T Svitak
N Tachibana
R Tamez
J Tan
S Thorne
C Torwudzo
D Tremble
T Tsubouchi
R Uys
D VanLeuven
A Vavda
M Velazquez
M Walls
S Ward
B Watterson
R Wheeler
N White
J Wilson
C Wittleder
H Yamada
Y Yamagata
B Zaher
J Zeak
 
Peanut Corp. of America files for bankruptcy

Feb 13, 5:42 PM (ET)

By KATE BRUMBACK and GREG BLUESTEIN

ATLANTA (AP) - The peanut processing company at the heart of a national salmonella outbreak is going out of business.

The Lynchburg, Va.-based Peanut Corp. of America filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Virginia Friday, the latest bad news for the company that has been accused of producing tainted peanut products that may have reached everyone from poor school children to disaster victims.

"It's regrettable, but it's inevitable with the events of last month," said Andrew S. Goldstein, a bankruptcy lawyer in Roanoke, Va., who filed the petition.

The salmonella outbreak was traced to the company's plant in Blakely, Ga., where inspectors found roaches, mold and a leaking roof. A second plant in Plainview, Texas was shuttered this week after preliminary tests came back positive for possible salmonella contamination. So far, the outbreak has been suspected of sickening more than 630 people and may have caused nine deaths. It also has led to more than 2,000 product recalls, one of the largest recalls in U.S. history.

Companies file Chapter 7 to liquidate their assets and distribute the proceeds to creditors. A trustee is automatically appointed to oversee the wind down, as opposed to a Chapter 11 filing that gives a company breathing room while it tries to reduce its debts and continue in business. The company said in the filing that its debt and assets both ranged between $1 million and $10 million.

The board had considered a Chapter 11 bankruptcy but decided on an outright liquidation. It said in a court filing that the recalls had been "extremely devastating" to the company's financial condition.

"We kicked the tires on trying to reorganize, but the fact of the matter is they've absolutely closed down," Goldstein said. "They're prevented from carrying on business. There didn't seem like there would be any prospects."

The company's problems have multiplied since the link to its Georgia plant.

The government is working on a criminal investigation into the case, and more than a dozen civil lawsuits have been filed. This week, Peanut Corp. president Stewart Parnell repeatedly refused to answer questions before the House Energy and Commerce investigations subcommittee, which is seeking ways to prevent another outbreak. But e-mails surfaced indicating he ordered products the company knew were tainted to be shipped anyway.

Reached by telephone, Parnell said his attorneys had advised him not to talk. "If I could do it, I would," he said.

Despite Friday's bankruptcy filing, food safety lawyers are optimistic that victims and their families can still be compensated. The bankruptcy proceeding could postpone litigation against the company, but lawyers plan to push a judge to allow civil lawsuits to go forward anyway. And many have also filed lawsuits against Solon, Ohio-based King Nut Co. and Battle Creek, Mich.-based Kellogg Co. (K), which they say used the tainted ingredients in their products.

"Even if Peanut Corp. doesn't have enough insurance and enough assets to cover the damages, King Nut and Kellogg will have to step up," said Bill Marler, who has filed seven lawsuits against the company and represents more than 40 possible victims.

Fred Pritzker, a food safety lawyer in Minneapolis who filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the company, said it could delay justice for his clients.

"For all the people whose loved ones have been killed or people who have been out of work or suffered serious injury or who have incurred medical bills, right now they're just left with a lump of uncertainty," he said.

The company began as a family business in 1977, and Parnell, his father and two younger brothers turned the struggling peanut roasting operation into a $30 million operation before selling it in 1995.

But in 2000 Stewart Parnell bought his own peanut plant in Texas, and a year later he bought the Blakely, Ga. operation after teaming up with a financial backer, David Royster III of Shelby, N.C. He also operated a plant in Suffolk, Va.

It all came crashing down when federal investigators identified the Georgia plant as the sole source of the salmonella outbreak, and questions began emerging about how the company operated its plants.

The company faced more scrutiny once it was revealed that its Texas plant, which opened in March 2005 and was run by a Peanut Corp. subsidiary, Plainview Peanut Co., was not inspected by state health officials until after problems arose at the company's Georgia plant. Texas health officials asked the company to close the plant Monday after samples sent to a private lab for testing showed possible salmonella contamination.

On Friday, companies began destroying products made with anything that came from the plant after Texas health officials said they discovered rodents, feces and feathers in a crawl space above a production area. An air handling system sucked debris from the crawl space into an area where peanuts are processed, officials said, so Texas officials took the highly unusual step of ordering all products ever made at the plant recalled.

"The reason we went back to March of 2005 is because it could not be determined how long those conditions had existed in that facility and ... it would have been risky to guess," said Doug McBride, a spokesman for the Texas Department of State Health Services.
 
So, why no cases in Alaska, Montana, Delaware, Louisiana, New Mexico or South Carolina? They eat no peanut butter? Someone should call the states' health departments.

The CDC numbers as of last Wednesday are 642 persons infected with the outbreak strain of Salmonella Typhimurium have been reported from 44 states. Patients range in age from <1 to 98 years. The median age of patients is 16 years, which means that half of ill persons are younger than 16 years. 21% are age <5 years, 17% are >59 years. 48% of patients are female. Among persons with available information, 23% reported being hospitalized. Infection may have contributed to nine deaths: Idaho (1), Minnesota (3), North Carolina (1), Ohio (2), and Virginia (2).

latest update
 
PORKER said:
So, why no cases in Alaska, Montana, Delaware, Louisiana, New Mexico or South Carolina? They eat no peanut butter? Someone should call the states' health departments.

The CDC numbers as of last Wednesday are 642 persons infected with the outbreak strain of Salmonella Typhimurium have been reported from 44 states. Patients range in age from <1 to 98 years. The median age of patients is 16 years, which means that half of ill persons are younger than 16 years. 21% are age <5 years, 17% are >59 years. 48% of patients are female. Among persons with available information, 23% reported being hospitalized. Infection may have contributed to nine deaths: Idaho (1), Minnesota (3), North Carolina (1), Ohio (2), and Virginia (2).

latest update

They just finally figured out some of the products made it to Montana and issued the recall :roll:
Another article I saw yesterday said officials figure almost all has already been consumed...

Peanut recalls arrive in Montana




BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) - More than 1,400 peanut-related products have been pulled from Montana shelves, and officials expect the list of recalled items to grow.


Howard Reid of the Montana Public Health and Human Services Department says the good news is there still hasn't been a confirmed case of peanut-related salmonella reported in Montana.


The bad news is the list of recalled products has grown so long it's difficult to follow.


On Thursday, the federal Food and Drug Administration listed 2,014 recalled products on its Web site.
 
Don't you think that your state could have reported sooner? When those PCA owners take the Fifth , they are lucky they don't live in China !!!!
 
PORKER said:
Don't you think that your state could have reported sooner? When those PCA owners take the Fifth , they are lucky they don't live in China !!!!

Sounds like it took that long to figure out what was here- and where it may have went...

"We are part of the Seattle District of the FDA, Reid said. "What our region has done is search the lists and create our own list. We've identified 179 firms and 1,433 products. You can assume they're in Montana."
 
I received a phone call a couple of weeks ago from Sams Club stating their records showed I'd purchased some granola bars which could possibly contain products from one of the affected plants. Don't know if we ate any of them, or not, as I had some from various sources, and we were traveling when the call came in and didn't hear of it till we got home.

No illnesses to report, either.

mrj
 

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