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That may be entertaining, but it gives a lot of credence to arguments of animal rights activists. As one involved in Animal Husbandry, I do not like the image this casts. Use your head when posting on you tube???
 
While I agree with your thoughts on the image something like this may cast to people who don't know any better it is a tried and true way of catching feral cattle in Australia. Likely not much different in philosophy than running wild horses in North America.
 
My friends son was working in western Australia and it was his job to crawl under the land cruiser and tie the back legs together. They do thing a little differently then we do. :?
 
I would hazzard to guess that their method is a lot safer for the crew than handling those cattle with a saddle horse.

It does give one reason to know why Spam was invented. :wink:
 
Shortgrass said:
That may be entertaining, but it gives a lot of credence to arguments of animal rights activists. As one involved in Animal Husbandry, I do not like the image this casts. Use your head when posting on you tube???
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Amen Shortgrass!

gcreekrch said:
While I agree with your thoughts on the image something like this may cast to people who don't know any better it is a tried and true way of catching feral cattle in Australia. Likely not much different in philosophy than running wild horses in North America.
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The Idiots that do that are the same kind of A$$'s that lost GOOD CowBoys our rights here.
In my younger day I roped many a Feral Horse and Cattle but I never abused them - I had to use my head and out smart them

gcreekrch said:
I would hazzard to guess that their method is a lot safer for the crew than handling those cattle with a saddle horse.
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Not My Kind Of Safety or Fun!
 
OldDog/NewTricks said:
Shortgrass said:
That may be entertaining, but it gives a lot of credence to arguments of animal rights activists. As one involved in Animal Husbandry, I do not like the image this casts. Use your head when posting on you tube???
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Amen Shortgrass!

gcreekrch said:
While I agree with your thoughts on the image something like this may cast to people who don't know any better it is a tried and true way of catching feral cattle in Australia. Likely not much different in philosophy than running wild horses in North America.
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The Idiots that do that are the same kind of A$$'s that lost GOOD CowBoys our rights here.
In my younger day I roped many a Feral Horse and Cattle but I never abused them - I had to use my head and out smart them


Don;t give me that BS because I know better. I'm not making wisecracks about whether you have a mind or not either!
If you actually ran many horses, how many good saddle horses did you cripple catching a few worthless ones? My FIL ran horses in Nevada and told me the ratio was about 1 to 20. It is also pretty well known that a fairly high percentage of the horses caught either run themselves to death, break legs or necks, or just will themselves to die after capture.

gcreekrch said:
I would hazzard to guess that their method is a lot safer for the crew than handling those cattle with a saddle horse.
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Not My Kind Of Safety or Fun!
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I've had a few 'gentle old range bulls' get on the fight and knock a horse down with me, have you no imagination what a real feral bull with horns could do to a horse? Leave out the fact of running a horse in that heat.
I also don't think there are too many of those fellas do that job strictly because it's fun. The method is used because it's effective.

Just like you poisoning gophers and mice. :wink:
 
Some meathods are tried and true, and actually the best available, for instance hot iron branding. A picture on you tube of the hair aflame and smoke rolling off a calf may appeal to a rancher, but I would not like to see it on you tube, because too many of the general public are ignorant (not stupid) of what is required to feed them (these people, can make it hard on us and more expensive on themselves - they will "cut off their nose to spite their face" so to speak). They are governed by emotion, not facts. Whether or not the method of gathering wild cattle is necessary, it is poor advertisement for the beef industry. I stand by my first statement of "use your head when posting on you tube." Some things may be reality, but they do not belong on the internet.
 
This is a quote from an article in "Cattle Network" that is more eloquent than I on the topic. Don't fuel their fire!

It's a battle over the hearts and minds of the 98% of an urbanized American public that has no recollection of life in farm country. With no direct connection, most of them believe what they read and the folks on the other side of the debate are making sure that the message is not that of the old-fashioned, good-neighbor farmer and his family. Instead, they're painting a picture of American agriculture as overrun with factory farms that horribly mistreat their animals, spread fertilizer across the land with no respect for what happens down river, and threaten the health and welfare of our children by using antibiotics by the truckload.
 
Chris LeDoux was a cowboy. I bet he'd turn over in his grave if he
knew his music was associated with the likes of this.If they
have to do it this way, they don't need to broadcast it. :cry:

I totally agree with Shortgrass. This could give anyone viewing
it the wrong idea about how we handle livestock. Looked to me
like they were having a little too much fun with the whole thing.
I wonder why they were out there in the first place. :???:
 
Faster horses said:
Chris LeDoux was a cowboy. I bet he'd turn over in his grave if he
knew his music was associated with the likes of this.If they
have to do it this way, they don't need to broadcast it. :cry:

I totally agree with Shortgrass. This could give anyone viewing
it the wrong idea about how we handle livestock. Looked to me
like they were having a little too much fun with the whole thing.
I wonder why they were out there in the first place. :???:
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My friend down under explained to me that they would knock them down and park on them while a young guy would crawl under the land cruiser and tie their back legs together them a truck would come along and winch them aboard. :?
 
Looks like fun to me.Not a whole lot different than steer ropeing where they toss the rope over and behind then jerk them down hell thats a sport in the USA. Myself I'd much rather do what it takes to get the job done and stand up for my actions than to cower like a whipped pup in the corner. If more people would stand up for themselves and educate the slicks they would understand.As far as that video I've seen more brutality in a hockey game.
 
People, we have to be our own ambassadors. I don't mean talking about a you tube video on here or down at the cafe. I mean getting out and talking to the folks that actually need to learn. When I went back to Texas I even had to educate my mother on some things,and she grew up on a farm. The special interest groups are a hell of a lot better at getting their message across than farmers or ranchers ever were. Just because we send a dollar to the check off when we sell a calf doesn't mean we are thru campaigning for our cause. People in agriculture are known for being rugged individualist. Keep this in mind folks. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.
 
Denny said:
Looks like fun to me.Not a whole lot different than steer ropeing where they toss the rope over and behind then jerk them down hell thats a sport in the USA. Myself I'd much rather do what it takes to get the job done and stand up for my actions than to cower like a whipped pup in the corner. If more people would stand up for themselves and educate the slicks they would understand.As far as that video I've seen more brutality in a hockey game.
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I agree. We're in a tough business. If knocking down some yearling bulls is unacceptable, we're not going to be around long as livestock producers. We don't just knock them down here, we kill ours at the slaughter house.
 
Couple years ago a Hereford bull on the fight during fall roundup. A cowboy got a rope around his horns and tied him to a tree… well a broken rope and a run away bull. Few cell phone calls from ridges and six hands show up, Six ropes end up on the bull, 4 pulling two back behind to keep him from hitting any of the horses in front, dog heeling, cowboys handing of ropes and they try to get this bull up over a rocky sage brush covered hill to were we now have a 5th wheel, pulse there a little angus bull just trailing along. Took a hour pulling to get the bull to the top of the hill. Then they tripped him and pulled him down on his side. Snaked a couple ropes up thru the side of the trailer and got him up and pulled in the other bull jump right in behind him…. Took another 30 minutes just getting the ropes off his horns using a golf club and a willow stick. Only other way to have gotten him off the forest would have been a rifle, knife, saw and pack horses
 
jodywy said:
Couple years ago a Hereford bull on the fight during fall roundup. A cowboy got a rope around his horns and tied him to a tree… well a broken rope and a run away bull. Few cell phone calls from ridges and six hands show up, Six ropes end up on the bull, 4 pulling two back behind to keep him from hitting any of the horses in front, dog heeling, cowboys handing of ropes and they try to get this bull up over a rocky sage brush covered hill to were we now have a 5th wheel, pulse there a little angus bull just trailing along. Took a hour pulling to get the bull to the top of the hill. Then they tripped him and pulled him down on his side. Snaked a couple ropes up thru the side of the trailer and got him up and pulled in the other bull jump right in behind him…. Took another 30 minutes just getting the ropes off his horns using a golf club and a willow stick. Only other way to have gotten him off the forest would have been a rifle, knife, saw and pack horses
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We do what it takes. :wink:

You could have used the 9 iron, teed up, and knocked him off the mountain. :P :lol:
 

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