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Two MAD COW farmers jailed for BSE fraud JAILED FOR 3 YEARS

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Oldtimer said:
It may even cut into your internet surfing time so you wouldn't have so much time to find Misinformed attention gradding headlines to bother your current elected officials with so they can do the jobs they aren't to old to do

Too bad so many of the so-called Industry leaders don't spend a little more time researching the internet, meeting with the common folks, and finding the true happenings so they can make informed consultations and decisions for these folks they are supposed to be representing... :roll: :(

Oldtimer just how many times have the stories you have brought to this board been researched by someone else and found to be half the story and the rest of the story clears up the misinformation that you posted in your hast to bad mouth our industry? If it wasn't for the research others do your crap just might have more of an impacted. :wink:
 
Oldtimer said:
It may even cut into your internet surfing time so you wouldn't have so much time to find Misinformed attention gradding headlines to bother your current elected officials with so they can do the jobs they aren't to old to do

Too bad so many of the so-called Industry leaders don't spend a little more time researching the internet, meeting with the common folks, and finding the true happenings so they can make informed consultations and decisions for these folks they are supposed to be representing... :roll: :(

OT, where can one buy those crystal balls like you must use to learn what "so called industry leaders" do or do not do?

In other words, how do you know they do or do not "research" the internet?

Some of us get blasted by people posting on ranchers.net for making statements indicating we know what others are thinking. Guess that doesn't apply to those who think alike.

On the other hand, maybe I don't want one of your crystal balls.....I really don't have time to read more about "true happenings" since that term sounds like it refers to plain old coffee shop gossip, doesn't it? We all hear plenty of that, usually with little benefit to anyone outside the local area

Most ranchers can benefit more by talking to industry leaders (not only organization leaders, but to business and education and allied industry leaders), asking them questions, telling them of problems we see in the cattle/beef industry and working together to improve this industry for us all than we can by just cussing our problems to each other.

Maybe you didn't know it, but that is what leaders of our state affilate organizations and NCBA actually DO! The state affiliate meetings where such leaders come out are recently finished for 2006, and the national meeting is coming up late Jan. & early Feb., 2007. Check it out! There will be more valuable and useful exchanges of information that you can imagine!

MRJ
 
MRJ, "Maybe you didn't know it, but that is what leaders of our state affilate organizations and NCBA actually DO! The state affiliate meetings where such leaders come out are recently finished for 2006, and the national meeting is coming up late Jan. & early Feb., 2007. Check it out! There will be more valuable and useful exchanges of information that you can imagine!"

What difference does it make if the National Officers just do what they want to do anyway, even going to the point of reversing voted in policy?
 
Sandhusker said:
MRJ, "Maybe you didn't know it, but that is what leaders of our state affilate organizations and NCBA actually DO! The state affiliate meetings where such leaders come out are recently finished for 2006, and the national meeting is coming up late Jan. & early Feb., 2007. Check it out! There will be more valuable and useful exchanges of information that you can imagine!"

What difference does it make if the National Officers just do what they want to do anyway, even going to the point of reversing voted in policy?


Sandhusker that's why even ranchers with "jobs" go to conventions of their organizations.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
MRJ, "Maybe you didn't know it, but that is what leaders of our state affilate organizations and NCBA actually DO! The state affiliate meetings where such leaders come out are recently finished for 2006, and the national meeting is coming up late Jan. & early Feb., 2007. Check it out! There will be more valuable and useful exchanges of information that you can imagine!"

What difference does it make if the National Officers just do what they want to do anyway, even going to the point of reversing voted in policy?


Sandhusker that's why even ranchers with "jobs" go to conventions of their organizations.

Those guys who voted on the policy that leadership reversed WERE at the convention. Worked out real well for them, didn't it?
 
Sandhusker said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
MRJ, "Maybe you didn't know it, but that is what leaders of our state affilate organizations and NCBA actually DO! The state affiliate meetings where such leaders come out are recently finished for 2006, and the national meeting is coming up late Jan. & early Feb., 2007. Check it out! There will be more valuable and useful exchanges of information that you can imagine!"

What difference does it make if the National Officers just do what they want to do anyway, even going to the point of reversing voted in policy?


Sandhusker that's why even ranchers with "jobs" go to conventions of their organizations.

Those guys who voted on the policy that leadership reversed WERE at the convention. Worked out real well for them, didn't it?

So does that mean your going to the meeting of the R-Klanners to critique the R-Klan financials and see where the money REALLY goes or does that real JOB you have prevent that?

One sick day off, Round trip flight (less than one hour-one way) all tax deductable. Go for it Sandhusker, it'll give your tellers the day off from getting your coffee, bet they might even pay for part of the flight. Maybe you could get your boss to spring for a night at the DoubleTree and spread it out over 2 days.

Hmm.........but then that means telling them what you really do in your office all day long....right???????????
 
If you're concerned about R-CALF's financials, join up and make an inquiry. Somehow, however, I don't think your concern is genuine.
 
Sandhusker said:
If you're concerned about R-CALF's financials, join up and make an inquiry. Somehow, however, I don't think your concern is genuine.


Somehow your concern for the industry doesn't seem genuine either Sandhusker.
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Sandhusker said:
If you're concerned about R-CALF's financials, join up and make an inquiry. Somehow, however, I don't think your concern is genuine.


Somehow your concern for the industry doesn't seem genuine either Sandhusker.

:roll:
 
Sandhusker said:
MRJ, "Maybe you didn't know it, but that is what leaders of our state affilate organizations and NCBA actually DO! The state affiliate meetings where such leaders come out are recently finished for 2006, and the national meeting is coming up late Jan. & early Feb., 2007. Check it out! There will be more valuable and useful exchanges of information that you can imagine!"

What difference does it make if the National Officers just do what they want to do anyway, even going to the point of reversing voted in policy?


Sandhusker, I'm sure you won't admit it, but other readers may want to know the facts about the point to which you refer: some national membership organizations do have options to handle business which comes up between meetings of the full membership. Officers are given some leeway and/or they may involve leaders of local and state affiliates getting on a conference call with the national leaders and working out a solution compatible with the points of policy in question.

If you have not been part of the organization and as is apparent, do not know the by-laws and governing structure, you cannot comment authoritatively, your attempts to cause divisieness, and your sour grapes attitude toward NCBA contributes nothing to the benefit of the cattle/beef industry, IMO.

MRJ

MRJ
 
Sugarcoat as you need, MRJ. The facts remain membership voted in policy and leadership reversed it quickly - to the chagrin of many of your members. You try to paint the picture that everybody was in on it - tell that to your members in Texas that were upset enough about it to go public. If they were that hot about it, you know there was a lot of other people who were torked, too.
 
Sandhusker said:
Sugarcoat as you need, MRJ. The facts remain membership voted in policy and leadership reversed it quickly - to the chagrin of many of your members. You try to paint the picture that everybody was in on it - tell that to your members in Texas that were upset enough about it to go public. If they were that hot about it, you know there was a lot of other people who were torked, too.

Wasn't that the time period that ended up with the NCBA putting on a dog and pony membership drive show on TV and a NCBA President tearfully asking for the members not to leave them while saying "We weren't listening to our members" :???:
 

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