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well were finally getting some good weather to finish up the last of are haying , I was starting to get a little worried ,we were run out of places to bale some horse hay ,I was looking across the road the other day , it looks to be 12 to 16" tall in the high spots , just wondering about what you guys have to say about winter kill and how long one could wait
 
Looks like another week of 25-27C. Hope you get it done. Are you talking of cutting and frost? If you are we like to be 2 weeks ahead or cut after a killing frost. I will swathgraze our 2nd cut so I want to be after the killer. Of course that runs into nitrate issues however nitrates are water soluble and virtually are never a problem with swathgrazing. Baling is a concern.
 
per said:
Looks like another week of 25-27C. Hope you get it done. Are you talking of cutting and frost? If you are we like to be 2 weeks ahead or cut after a killing frost. I will swathgraze our 2nd cut so I want to be after the killer. Of course that runs into nitrate issues however nitrates are water soluble and virtually are never a problem with swathgrazing. Baling is a concern.
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before the frost , the dairy down the road was intrested , well I guess I ' ll take a second look, thanks
 
Reminder to let alfalfa plants store adequate carbohydrates

Harvesting alfalfa during the 4 to 6 weeks prior to a killing frost – the critical time in the fall – can have a major impact on both the survival of the alfalfa stand as well as the yield the following spring. Let alfalfa plants store up adequate carbohydrates before the average killing frost date to help prevent winter injury. Inadequate carbohydrate reserves in alfalfa roots usually results in either winter injury which can show up as dead plants or slower spring growth with lower hay yields.

Although the date of the killing frost can not be predicted with certainty; note that 4 to 6 weeks from August 17 is nearing the end of September and a killing frost would likely have occurred by then. Even though a killing frost date will vary from year to year, by knowing the approximate date and avoiding alfalfa harvesting in the 4-6 weeks prior to the killing frost will help to insure the alfalfa will survive the winter and be vigorous next spring.

For more information on alfalfa fall/winter management check the following web site:

http://www1.foragebeef.ca/$foragebeef/frgebeef.nsf/all/frg87
 
thanks BMR , we ain't never cut this late before , every thing seems to be a little late coming this year , weather that is . the stand is only three years old , the type of alfalfa we put in is ment for grazing so the crown is low , PER we don't swath graze are land just grows rocks , big one's , we have nice blend of native and rye grass . if we swath grazed what would I do with my drafts :wink:
 
I'm good with that. Those big boys need to work too. No drafts here so my cows get to do the work. I'm not convinced that you need a month of frost free for enough regrowth to be safe. The real problem is no matter how long it is that the big frost could be next week or tonight. They are not good at forecasting such things. If in doubt or it your risk tolerance is low don't do it. The stand will catch snow and eventually be incorporated into the soil. Fair warning about advise from me. I like to push the limits and prove it can be done. I have a fairly high risk tolerance for failure because I think we learn more and can profit exponentially when it does work, making up for the losses.
 
Found a bearing that I needed for the 1431 at a neighbor's yesterday morning. Got the parts for the 1411 last night.

One good thing about the swamps, you can cut until the snow flies and next spring turn the water on and the grass starts growing again.

BMR, ya think a mower would cut this?
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Gcreekrch around here someone forgot to turn the water off the lowlands are wet!!! I have around 60 acres I mostly will not be able to cut due to excessive water. Got stuck 4 times trying to bale a 14 acre piece yesterday and I left the worse 25% of the field standing. We are expected to get another 2 to 4 inches rain today. How many acres are in the field you are mowing in the pictures?
 
PATB said:
Gcreekrch around here someone forgot to turn the water off the lowlands are wet!!! I have around 60 acres I mostly will not be able to cut due to excessive water. Got stuck 4 times trying to bale a 14 acre piece yesterday and I left the worse 25% of the field standing. We are expected to get another 2 to 4 inches rain today. How many acres are in the field you are mowing in the pictures?
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About 70 in this one. We still have about 300 acres to go.
 
per said:
I'm good with that. Those big boys need to work too. No drafts here so my cows get to do the work. I'm not convinced that you need a month of frost free for enough regrowth to be safe. The real problem is no matter how long it is that the big frost could be next week or tonight. They are not good at forecasting such things. If in doubt or it your risk tolerance is low don't do it. The stand will catch snow and eventually be incorporated into the soil. Fair warning about advise from me. I like to push the limits and prove it can be done. I have a fairly high risk tolerance for failure because I think we learn more and can profit exponentially when it does work, making up for the losses.
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you got me listening, thanks
 

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