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What do you think about arming school teachers?

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Let's don't be stupid. Teachers toting guns. I don't think so. Just how many of the guns would just be left in the desk where some kid could get to one.
If we have to post an armed cop in a classroom, we are missing something along the line. Let's treat the problem and not just start shooting.
Teachers toting guns? Now y'all think back to your high school days and picture your teachers with guns. Now picture "all" of your teachers with guns.
Now teachers toting switches. That may be the answer.
 
Sorry Kola...missed your point this morn.Can't swat Mike so I'll answer with my "womans mindset" :roll:

Now Mike,you are totally wrong that i don't understand the safety thing,my DIL teaches in a Cristian Colony school,after last week this is my nu.1 thought.I worry about her and her students,you know the copy cat thing. My thought is your of a typical male mindset...a gun will cure everything.It won't all your setting up for are more shootouts amoung teachers and students as well as nuts that are getting into your unlocked schools. Sorry,woman or not I am NOT in favour of guns in a school.PERIOD :!: :!:
 
I guess we would be at the point where we would have to agree to check each kid and teacher in and out of school like airport security and get rid of the teachers union where the school district can fire the kooky teachers? Would that solve the problem?
 
OT i agree with you on the rights, but armed teachers i not sure of. i think that we have put to much on the teachers when it should of been the parents. some parents have gotten so lazy and they expect everybody else to do their job.
 
You are right that many of the problem kids get it grom home.

But here is where we are

I see many schools that have their administration offices away from the classroom and kids. Anyone entering a school should have to go through a gauntlet of administration.

Self defense and weapons training for all teachers and administration.
If they are given an opportunity to difuse the situation then we don't want a freaked out teacher at the helm. Training. I am sorry but that is the teachers duties nowadays, to control the situation as much as possible by keeping a level head. A teacher nowadays is like a captain of the ship and they are responsible for their students.

These have to be done first. Later if needed weapons in the trained teachers hands could be evaluated but only after first things first.

training,training,training for situations like this
After all emergency personel do this constantly
 
Why not find out the reason guns are in schools and rec centers and liberary's and many similar places...Could it be protection and if so from who,what and why....I suspect if we were to stop drugs then many of todays issuse's such as gang and school violence will be down...

Tearchers should teach,not be baby sitters and father or mothers to the children they teach in schools....It is time to start blaming the north American parent,for it is them who raised the kids,that raised the kids, that raised the kids.....Instead of watching tv after dinner or going on line,go out and organize a youth activity that involves both child and parent....It is a long way from healing these social issues but it is a start.(M.A.D.D just started in a small community and look at how many lifes that program alone saved)..They should make more classroom documentarys on affects of death or better yet the loss of life......Show them that life gets better as it moves ahead and how each person can,if they map their choices out positively,they will find life long enjoyment in just living life...People talk about how good it was in the past,just remember it was once considered cool to smoke and look where that issue got us.....More guns are made now then ever before,as knifes where the weapon of days past the gun has now taken over.There is only one answer and that is community responsiblity....and until all people want to take positive action in thier communities....All we will have is a handful of positive stories buried by the growing handful of negative ones.......My opinion of course,and I suspect here that matters little if at all.......


P.S.Welcome to the board agreeable :wink: :D
 
Well NN,the latest shooting was done by a 32 year old,the two before that by adults also...so how is this a parent problam :???:
 
agreeable said:
You are right that many of the problem kids get it grom home.

But here is where we are

I see many schools that have their administration offices away from the classroom and kids. Anyone entering a school should have to go through a gauntlet of administration.

Self defense and weapons training for all teachers and administration.
If they are given an opportunity to difuse the situation then we don't want a freaked out teacher at the helm. Training. I am sorry but that is the teachers duties nowadays, to control the situation as much as possible by keeping a level head. A teacher nowadays is like a captain of the ship and they are responsible for their students.

These have to be done first. Later if needed weapons in the trained teachers hands could be evaluated but only after first things first.

training,training,training for situations like this
After all emergency personel do this constantly
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Must be a Parent....Why not make it the Parents responsibilty to maintain a safe class room....have each parent either go and act as security or pitch in for officers to protect the shool class rooms.....Now parents are demanding swat training for teachers plus their duties they already have...Typical way to fix a problem,make someone eles do it for ya..get off your a$$ parents and protect your kids stop trusting others to do it all for you....No wonder kids get attitudes like they do...If this person is a parent shame on them for asking others to step up and protect their children when they themselves are not willing to even consider helping ....I am sorry but its your responsiblity to maintain a safe enviroment for your child....If you dont feel it safe,BY ALL MEANS KEEP THEM OUT OR FIX IT SO IT IS SAFE!!!!!......
 
Oh Ok,I get it. Its not the parents of the shooters its the parents who don't feel school is safe for thier kids,to take the responsibility.I have no problam with that except,per usual it would be the same five parents that will be doing it.
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Well NN,the latest shooting was done by a 32 year old,the two before that by adults also...so how is this a parent problam :???:
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Sorry Mrs Greg but your piont is that of a md man.I cant defend that and no one can predict that....There are times when all is done to protect but uglyness still finds its way in.....I do not have an answer for times like that....It is a shame men and women become beasts at times and maybe the answer is in the crime itself....All I know is there is bad out there most we can curtail but some we will never see comming.....I am sorry life gives us such sad stories to see and at times go through.....All I can do for those is hope they are at peace and that their familes can find an acceptble way of closure that allows them to move forward...
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Oh Ok,I get it. Its not the parents of the shooters its the parents who don't feel school is safe for thier kids,to take the responsibility.I have no problam with that except,per usual it would be the same five parents that will be doing it.
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Yes I agree there to Mrs Greg....most parents that care and are willing to roll up their collected sleeves is ussaully,to quote you"same five parents doing it"...I guess we start with what we have and hope those five can next month make it ten and so on......I do see how it becomes cumbersome to start....I have a strong belief that you are one of those five that care,so just keep up the good fight till back up comes ......and take some comfort knowing,your making a life long difference in your own childs life,in a very positive way.
 
I sit here reading and thinking how can you say it is NOT the teachers responsibility to keep our children safe? Yes, I agree that it should be harder to get to our kids in schools. But, as I said before we were trained on Safety which in our times was fires and tornados...now we need to train our kids how to handle terroistic threats within the school, THAT means we have to train our School personel and teachers how to control situations, and hopefully some of what has happened can get detoured before it ever happens again. Like the kid in MO, that one was detoured only by accident because the kid missed his shot first, but the personel acted on it. Yes, I agree that parents have some degree to do with the problems, but not all is our fault. The environment is shaping our kids, and if we can not control that what do we do? AS Mrs. Greg said with adults entering the schools the last times, I think if we make it harder for ANYONE to enter the school then that takes care of that. And, again put the kids in uniforms so you can look across and see who does not belong. I know the kids hate it, but that takes care of a lot of issues, one being who doesnt belong, the other being as kids can not compare and chastize another if they are not wearing the latest fashionable clothes....taking care of that mental issue of low self esteem, I know there will always be someone not having what others do but, it has been proven that the uniform has transformed some of the worse schools attitudes in general. There are so many issues to address to correct...but, just reading this board we can all say we see the problems now just have to get involved in helping to address them. Quit talking and get out there and help, volunteer to mentor to kids in difficulty..those of you that do not have kids. Volunteer with after school programs and lets make a difference in our at risk children.


Okay I am done, I wont add anymore pennies to this conversation. I think we all know that the idea is that we need to do something to protect and help our kids in a learning environment.


Easty
 
I want to say that yes, it's a good idea. But then I see too many teachers and administrators that are just too subpar to have that responsibility. The tazer thing maybe sounds like a better idea, not lethal when they use poor judgement or lose their marbles.
 
No one has suggested censoring movies and television. I have always thought that they are the reason for the increase in violence among young men in the U.S. WAY TOO MUCH VIOLENCE in the media and on television.
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We watched The Lone Ranger and Tonto shoot at least a dozen hombres every Sat morning when I was a kid.

I wore a double holster with two "six shooter" cap pistols as did all the other boys I played with back in the 50's.

Sounds like just another excuse to me. :???:
 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Reminder....this is 2006....not 1956!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wake up...it's called a calendar!!!!
 
kolanuraven said:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Reminder....this is 2006....not 1956!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wake up...it's called a calendar!!!!
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The whole problem with today's world is that everything is "justified" because, after all, geezo wheezo, this is 2006. If people still had 1956 values, the world would not be in such a pickle.
 
Mike said:
Shortgrass said:
Maybe they ought to put prayer back in school.
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Another subject.............

But from what I understand........people may bow their heads and pray in silence at any time during school.

You gonna force people to pray?

Pray for a gun? :lol:
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Kids have always been able to pray in school or anywhere else for that matter. Just think about it, who can stop you from bowing your head and having a silent prayer anytime you wish? I wonder how many prayers are said before each test that the students are given.
 
Mr Soapweed you just might be right. If it were 1956 we'd not be wasting time here on these computers.

You'd be out working as I should be.

We'd not have half the cures for cancer and the like...thus less population...thus less need for Medicare ( which I know you're getting close to--not a shot but a fact). Why heck, half of the people on this board would not even be alive...be it due to disease, injury or just the lower life expectancey of 1956.

Yeah....let's put our head in the sand like N Korea and shut out the " world"...look how spectacular it's worked for them.
 
Soap, Are you following this crazy nut from Jawja?

She jumps from "Korea" to "Medicare" to "Computers" to "Cancer" to "1956" to "working", all in just a couple of posts!!!! :lol:

Typical liberal with no debateable points............just change the subject!! :lol:
 
Mike said:
Soap, Are you following this crazy nut from Jawja?

She jumps from "Korea" to "Medicare" to "Computers" to "Cancer" to "1956" to "working", all in just a couple of posts!!!! :lol:

Typical liberal with no debateable points............just change the subject!! :lol:
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What piont did you bring Mike,you just piled on with shots...The lady happens to be right....This is 2006,smoking is knowen a killer,women have a more equal stance and sick new borns now live out their lives with the help of modern medical advancements..Granted 1950's had its Glory days,but it was that generation of peoples children that raised kids in the late sixties and 70's and now those kids have raised the children of the late eighties and 90's....Who do you blame?..Try parents,did you build a positive social and schoolistic enviroment,Did your children help in building a positive society and do thiers (your grandchildren) get treated like they live in the fifties......Shake your heads guys its no longer the 50's......Either step up or step back...Just get to the side and let life pass you by before you just get in the way...


Please stop asking teachers to do your bidding....Protect your kids and quit laying it on others to do so...
 

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