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Larrry said:
rammtein7 said:
Faster horses said:
yea and he can vote...
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Oh God no!!! Not a liberal voting!!! What a travesty!
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Yep they can vote but an educated vote is another story. Voting for a utopia that doesn't exist or never will is not an educated vote
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Who said I was voting for a utopia? I go with what I feel is right. Believe it or not, I don't care which.
 
Frisco said:
rammtein7 said:
What if instead of spending all our money on weapons and defence, we fed, clothed, and housed everybody NOT one human being excluded, got rid of boundaries and simply became one race. I believe we could as one race explore space in peace and harmony. Wouldn't that be cool?
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First of all, the one race schpeel has been used in the past by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and others. Their line of crap worked until followers were sucked in and allowed themselves to get rid of millions of people who did not fit their Utopic ideal. The socialist or communist ideal would work if it did not involve humans.

You seem to think you know the Constitution and its amendments. Where does it say anything about feeding, clothing and housing each individual? We Americans are provided one hell of a chance to make something of ourselves. If we were each handed a house, food and clothing, where would the desire to invent better things, write better stories, and expand our abilities to make our lives better?

Here is the right you are born with: the right of thought, of reason, of choosing who to associate with. When we are born, there is no tattoo on our ass which dictates that we are to be provided for houses, food, clothing and healthcare. In fact, we are but the ward of our parents, without which, our futures would be short.

We as a nation could decide to provide every American with homes and healthcare, but who is going to PAY?! In some communisitic environment where all give their ability and earnings to the entire need, maybe this is possible. But, history shows it never has succeeded. Never.

Those who can produce have the ability to buy homes, food, and healthcare. This has always been the way. Good and services were used for trade ever since humans began forming communities to ensure their survival.

The only times one race, Utopia, and all that stuff is uttered is by a tyrant who fools the naive, desperate and the lazy into believing that he has the answer and should be in charge for our own good.

Good luck, I hope you find a unicorn to ride through the rainbows and rose colored clouds.
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Communism has never worked because there was no strong constitution in place. It left too much room open for corruption, hence the fall of the USSR. By the way, if you want to ride a unicorn through rainbows and rose colored clouds, I recommend you just eat some shrooms.
 
rammtein7 said:
What if instead of spending all our money on weapons and defence, we fed, clothed, and housed everybody NOT one human being excluded, got rid of boundaries and simply became one race. I believe we could as one race explore space in peace and harmony. Wouldn't that be cool?
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QUESTION Is that even possible.




psst he loses either way he answers that question
 
rammtein7 said:
Larrry said:
rammtein7 said:
Oh God no!!! Not a liberal voting!!! What a travesty!
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Yep they can vote but an educated vote is another story. Voting for a utopia that doesn't exist or never will is not an educated vote
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Who said I was voting for a utopia? I go with what I feel is right. Believe it or not, I don't care which.
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Making decisions on emotion is great, but trying basing your emotions on reality.
 
Larrry said:
rammtein7 said:
What if instead of spending all our money on weapons and defence, we fed, clothed, and housed everybody NOT one human being excluded, got rid of boundaries and simply became one race. I believe we could as one race explore space in peace and harmony. Wouldn't that be cool?
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QUESTION Is that even possible.




psst he loses either way he answers that question
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How so?
 
I fail to see how that's a loss on my part. It can't happen immediatly. Nothing does. The people of those countries need to decide for themselves that enough is enough.
 
The problem is...as I see it...they do not value their life as we do here
in America or Canada. That's why we will never be able to negotiate
with them. It's their culture to blow themselves up for the cause.
They've been brainwashed that way from the time they were babies.

We can't level the playing field so we must defend ourselves.
Unless you think we should have their culture...and then they
wouldn't be happy. War is what they do.
 
Faster horses said:
The problem is...as I see it...they do not value their life as we do here
in America or Canada. That's why we will never be able to negotiate
with them. It's their culture to blow themselves up for the cause.
They've been brainwashed that way from the time they were babies.

We can't level the playing field so we must defend ourselves.
Unless you think we should have their culture...and then they
wouldn't be happy. War is what they do.
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Darwinism. Survival of the fittest.
 
Oh. You want utopia but now it's okay to blow people up that
don't believe the way you believe.

You are one mixed up dude.

Where the heck do you get this stuff?
I'm feeling more sorry for you with each post you make.
Your awakening is going to be painful. And
the longer it takes the worse it is going to be.
 
Violence is never the answer. I don't know how you infer your conclusions and I'm the messed up one? All I was saying is that it should work itself out eventually.
 
rammtein7 said:
Frisco said:
rammtein7 said:
What if instead of spending all our money on weapons and defence, we fed, clothed, and housed everybody NOT one human being excluded, got rid of boundaries and simply became one race. I believe we could as one race explore space in peace and harmony. Wouldn't that be cool?
Click to expand...

First of all, the one race schpeel has been used in the past by the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and others. Their line of crap worked until followers were sucked in and allowed themselves to get rid of millions of people who did not fit their Utopic ideal. The socialist or communist ideal would work if it did not involve humans.

You seem to think you know the Constitution and its amendments. Where does it say anything about feeding, clothing and housing each individual? We Americans are provided one hell of a chance to make something of ourselves. If we were each handed a house, food and clothing, where would the desire to invent better things, write better stories, and expand our abilities to make our lives better?

Here is the right you are born with: the right of thought, of reason, of choosing who to associate with. When we are born, there is no tattoo on our ass which dictates that we are to be provided for houses, food, clothing and healthcare. In fact, we are but the ward of our parents, without which, our futures would be short.

We as a nation could decide to provide every American with homes and healthcare, but who is going to PAY?! In some communisitic environment where all give their ability and earnings to the entire need, maybe this is possible. But, history shows it never has succeeded. Never.

Those who can produce have the ability to buy homes, food, and healthcare. This has always been the way. Good and services were used for trade ever since humans began forming communities to ensure their survival.

The only times one race, Utopia, and all that stuff is uttered is by a tyrant who fools the naive, desperate and the lazy into believing that he has the answer and should be in charge for our own good.

Good luck, I hope you find a unicorn to ride through the rainbows and rose colored clouds.
Click to expand...

Communism has never worked because there was no strong constitution in place. It left too much room open for corruption, hence the fall of the USSR. By the way, if you want to ride a unicorn through rainbows and rose colored clouds, I recommend you just eat some shrooms.
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Maybe I am wrong, but I thought constitutions were documents made for democracies and/or republics. How does a stronger constitution close the loopholes? Are you now talking about martial law? That is what it usually takes to get people with free will and thier own idea of how to prosper to fall in line with one national way of doing things. Extreme force.

The unicorn and clouds reference was in response to jigs' response, which was right to the point and funny as heck. It is okay to want equality for people, but not handouts just for simply being.
 
rammtein7 said:
How odd, one minute you condemn my liberal ways, the next you want me to work out global conflicts...
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No, FH's question is rhetorical. How do you sell the idea of peace to people who do not believe they can co-exist with another people who do not believe in their god and must be eliminated for them to get into heaven, which is their Utopia? When you walk up to them with an olive branch in your hand and pure intentions in your heart, you are just as liable to lose your head as journalists and our soldiers have.
 

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