Why the USDA should NOT control the check off money

[Econ101]

MRJ, I know the positions in the USDA some of the NCBA people are in.

If you don't know some of the major issues, go get informed. Stop being an ostrich. You asked for some more information on the dairy issue and then you critisize the organic industry and me for having an opinion on the matter. Not everything revolves around cattle issues. There are a lot of other issues that are not being adequately addressed.

Corporate greed will always be there. It is the inordinate influence exerted that is the problem.

Econ, I'm as informed as I can spare the time to be, and there are times I do not tell all I know in order to give others the chance to share their knowledge. I do have a life and work beyond this keyboard. My computer is slow, and my time is limited some days.

I'm only asking you to admit it may be possible that there are political manipulations in the organic industry, that not everyone who is "big" is bad, and that not eveyone who is a "small, organic or family farmer" is perfect. Yes, most are good, honest people, but the term "organic" is not synonomous with "God". It is unrealistic to think there is not knock-down-drag-out infighting on occasion, even among the "Holy" of the organics movement.

I'm only asking you to admit it may be possible that USDA and FORMER employees of NCBA and Tyson just might NOT be controlling the work of USDA to make themselves Kings of Agriculture.

You say "I know the positions in the USDA some of the NCBA people are in." Why do you continue to call FORMER employees "NCBA people"? They owe no allegiance to NCBA, other than honesty when discussing that organization.

My opinion is that some "professors" attempting to manipulate public opinion to serve pet agendas will be around even longer than "corporate greed".

MRJ

MRJ, I would gladly concede to you if I saw evidence of what you say at the USDA. The USDA is not the only U.S. regulatory agency that has left its competence or regulatory obligations behind for the corporations who are running the show today. We have the best government and procurement that money can buy. Some of these politicians that are in positions of power and influence have sold out to self interests. Not all. Some hide their actions well. Politicians who do not make the tough decisions against their "supporters" don't deserve to hold the offices they hold.

On the organic issue, I never catagorize anyone the way you stated. I am open enough to know that anyone, no matter what position they hold or in what organization, is subject to what I call the human condition. It is not the USDA that should be determining the status or the rules that the organic movement has come up with. As I stated, I am not an organic nut but I more and more information keeps coming out (viox for example) that all the chemicals we do use are potentially more dangerous than we are let on to believe.

As far as Tyson not controlling the USDA to become the "Kings of Agriculture", wake up. You don't know everything there is to know in that respect. Tyson is using market power, bargaining power, market information, and other economic tricks to win the competition game and their hand is being called. We just have a judicial system that is not doing their part up to this point. You should read the London case that the Pickett decision was based on. You might start to get a feel for what is happening and being pushed under the rug. You can read the opinion on the 11th circuit web site. The number is 04-10040.

You can blame all the college professors you want. I want to change the system because I can see that it is hurting producers---and the country.

 

[Anonymous]

Conman: "The USDA is not the only U.S. regulatory agency that has left its competence or regulatory obligations behind for the corporations who are running the show today. We have the best government and procurement that money can buy. Some of these politicians that are in positions of power and influence have sold out to self interests. Not all. Some hide their actions well."

Conman: "Tyson is using market power, bargaining power, market information, and other economic tricks to win the competition game and their hand is being called. We just have a judicial system that is not doing their part up to this point."

More Conman opinions and theories with no supporting facts!

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