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Well, it's not years, but. I go away for a few days and come back and what do I see? More nationalistic fighting accomplishing what for producers in either country? I didn't know R-CALF was formed to file an anti-dumping suit. Don't the Canadians on this board find that interesting? I know...

Jason, I think you are missing my primary point so I probably confused the issue by discussing them. Basically, I believe Canadian producers should be demanding their representative organizations open other markets. That means doing what it takes, including 100% testing, etc. When CCA was...

In defence of R-CALF and from a Canadian perspective... I disagree with the notion that Canadian imports are, in any way, responsible for BSE in the U.S. I know you're going to jump up and down about the first one being a born-in-Canada animal, but if you objectively look into it, you will...

Feed Bans This is an interesting avenue of discussion, because animals born after the feed bans have tested positive. Why so? Most of the argument here seems put the blame on the evil producer who is out there feeding cows to cows because... ...and that's where the discussion stops...

A major source of difficulty is when "experts" assert their influence in areas which are none of their business. An example is the quote in Tam's post: Of concern to OIE should be suspension minimums and other preventive measures. For example: If a two-month quarantine is necessary, the OIE...

I still don't get the fighting. Let's put some reality into the BSE "issue". Testing: Both countries use the same tests - either BioRad or Prionics. Neither test can detect early stages of infection. Both countries are close to correct in suggesting there is little point in testing animals...

You guys are just gonna keep at it until we're all sucked in to that nationalistic drivel thing, aren't you? Well, here goes: OT: Until the 1970's Canada was proud to be the only country ever to have squashed the US in a war. Then came the Vietnamese, and soon even the bloody Iraqis will be...

Jason: I am quite aware there are more than three packers in Western Canada. BUT there are only three who supply the large supermarkets their basic meat, and I named them. I am also aware only CFIA stamps meat. Interestingly, now that our processes are being "harmonized" with the USDAs, I...

OldTimer... Two items on that: 1) It is being done both ways. In Canada the same sort of thing is being done. Imported meat is put in "Product of Canada" boxes. In both countries it is illegal. If, as you say, it is getting a USDA stamp, that's a step up, criminally speaking, to a Federal...

Producers should be completely cool with COOL - and as much of it as can be done. Considering that 90% of the non-food industries have it - my new DVD burner, bought in Canada, has a label that reads "Assembled in USA of components from China, Malaysia and Mexico" - I can only assume the...

Filter this through the screen of your own religious beliefs... 26,000 people die from hunger every day! Every day!! Two thirds of them, more than 16,000, are children. What do you think God feels when he sees us fighting over markets?

COOL IT!! - pun intended. Chill my brothers. People who live in glass houses shouldn't... etc. etc. As you can see from the site I posted, it is relatively simple and inexpensive to trace an animal's entire life. It can cross the border, go on vacations, whatever. The consumer can simply...

Oh, sorry. I even put an asterisk there on USDA/CFIA science being 'PI free'. It means 'Political Influence'.

Calm down, my friends. We can discuss this rationally. There is evidence artificial growth hormones accumulate in edible parts of livestock. There is also some evidence these trace amounts affect humans eating the meat. If there are consumers who do not want to chance, it, then that is...

Scare tactics? Maybe. But if you check out the WTO website, this is the kind of control they are looking for. And amusingly enough USDA is not the only one spending taxpayer money and licensing it over to the privates. A lot of terminator work was done by our own beloved Agriculture and...

'Tain't that hard. All one needs to do is a test on the liver - any artificial growth hormones administered during the animal's life will show up. It's worth the extra cost because when the Europeans do random testing and find AGH residue they simply refuse the whole shipment and leave the...

Wow! I wonder what that was?

Mrs. Greg - I have taken my meds. But then I get to chatting with my "farmer friends" and I get right riled again. It angers me to see how badly treated honest people are. Your first name better not be Gerry!!! (No matter how it's spelled.) And the link would have worked it I hadn't put a...

And now that most of y'all think I can't spelled 'unchallenged' I'll even admit to previewing the post. If you guys are really 'ranchers' - which is a fancy name for farmers - which is an honourable profession if ever there was one, then you should stop with the nationalistic bull s---. You...

I know I'm a day or so behind here, but I can't let this go unchanllenged... Cargill & Tyson bring beef into Canada in their Alberta plants, do a little repackaging and it goes to stores in "Product of Canada" boxes. Some of it's from Uruguay. What you refer to as "proudly stamped" I would...