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Branding cattle with just 3 letters and 3 numbers

John SD said:
HAY MAKER said:
I sure can 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ, take your pick :D ..................good luck

Hay Maker, here's something I just thought of. Whether used in the same brand or not, how are ya gonna distinguish between a 0 and an O? :???: :???: :???:

He don't really care - if it's close it's his. :lol:
 
Used to be in the brand books here, one guy had an 02 on the hip and 100 miles away another guy had an O revers S on the same hip. Seems to me that would be a conflict. but that is what was in there, even tho' when I sent n for brands they were always telling me they were in conflict.
 
John SD said:
HAY MAKER said:
I sure can 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ, take your pick :D ..................good luck

Hay Maker, here's something I just thought of. Whether used in the same brand or not, how are ya gonna distinguish between a 0 and an O? :???: :???: :???:

I guess just use a bar in the zero, kinda like the math folks, put a slash through their zeros, this is why some of the question/answers were refering to "25" they saw a problem with the letter o and the number 0...............good luck
 
One more thing if there are any lurkers that still dont believe, the answer for the question given is 17,576,000, I will direct you to a math exppert and you can debate the issue with him, I hafta warn you tho, he aint very kind :D :D :D
good luck
 
HAY MAKER said:
One more thing if there are any lurkers that still dont believe, the answer for the question given is 17,576,000, I will direct you to a math exppert and you can debate the issue with him, I hafta warn you tho, he aint very kind :D :D :D
good luck

He might be a "Math Expert" but he don't know a damn thing about branding cows. :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way all you guys that said you didn't need a ID system cause you branded your cows I think Haymaker showed you why it wouldn't work very well on a national scale. :?
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
HAY MAKER said:
One more thing if there are any lurkers that still dont believe, the answer for the question given is 17,576,000, I will direct you to a math exppert and you can debate the issue with him, I hafta warn you tho, he aint very kind :D :D :D
good luck

He might be a "Math Expert" but he don't know a damn thing about branding cows. :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way all you guys that said you didn't need a ID system cause you branded your cows I think Haymaker showed you why it wouldn't work very well on a national scale. :?

like the story the other day on the radio, about stolden livestock numbers being way higher in non brand area. the sherriff or band inspector being told she was a big brown cow with a white spot on her tail, oh she did have a plastic ear tag with my name on it.
 
Hot iron branding has proven to be the most effective way to keep track of ownership and trace cattle back for the past several thousand years. so far no one has come up with a better one.
 
Jinglebob said:
Hot iron branding has proven to be the most effective way to keep track of ownership and trace cattle back for the past several thousand years. so far no one has come up with a better one.

One thing about a brand vs an electronic id tag is the brand is permanent and not removable. Can be tampered with but that should be evident.

The problem is brand laws are not in force and enforced uniformly in every state. SD included because brand laws are not enforced in the eastern half of the state.
 
John SD said:
Jinglebob said:
Hot iron branding has proven to be the most effective way to keep track of ownership and trace cattle back for the past several thousand years. so far no one has come up with a better one.

One thing about a brand vs an electronic id tag is the brand is permanent and not removable. Can be tampered with but that should be evident.

The problem is brand laws are not in force and enforced uniformly in every state. SD included because brand laws are not enforced in the eastern half of the state.

Very true, add the costs associated with the electronic tag/readers computer to maintain information and data accuracy and you can see why it flopped, who's going to pay for the computers annd labor to maintain the data base ? Cattlemen ? dont think so, housewives ? not likely, packers ? forget it. Feeders good luck.
Remember we are talkin about a international data base system and the computers software and labor to maintain it.
That's why Brands work and that's why Brand laws should be improved and enforced .
good luck
 
Used to be in the brand books here, one guy had an 02 on the hip and 100 miles away another guy had an O revers S on the same hip. Seems to me that would be a conflict. but that is what was in there, even tho' when I sent n for brands they were always telling me they were in conflict.

There could have been a huge wreck for brand inspectors in this area if we didn't all get along.

My brand
O
22

My cousin Rafter over 22

a neighbor Quarter Circle facing down over 22

All on the left hip. We all shared fences.
 
Doug Thorson said:
Used to be in the brand books here, one guy had an 02 on the hip and 100 miles away another guy had an O revers S on the same hip. Seems to me that would be a conflict. but that is what was in there, even tho' when I sent n for brands they were always telling me they were in conflict.

There could have been a huge wreck for brand inspectors in this area if we didn't all get along.

My brand
O
22

My cousin Rafter over 22

a neighbor Quarter Circle facing down over 22

All on the left hip. We all shared fences.
Who had who's brand first? Two of those should have never been allowed, in the same position. The board screwed up when the let them be approved, in my opinion.

My grandfather registered the V/4 in 1902. IN the 90's a young neighbor put in for and was allowed the 4/4 in the same position. We do not border, but a V can look much like a 4 and can be made into a 4 very easy. Not that I don't trust him, but they are not supposed to allow that.

There are 6 places to brand a cow. 8 if they allowed jaw brands. Figure up, math experts, the use of any combination of brands fro mall the letters in the alphabet, 0 thru' 9 in numbers and also the characters of a mill iron, rafter and all characters being in the lazy or crazy position. that is a lot of different brands, even if you threw out brands more likely to blotch such as B and R. There is really no excuse for there to be brands that similar.

And John, the non inspection east river just burns my butt. On the same token, why is there no brand inspection for horses in Neb. ?
 
You run your cattle where I do, they better be wearing a brand, horses too
And even then there are no guarantees, mexico dont give a damn about Texas brands.
good luck
 
Jinglebob said:
Doug Thorson said:
Used to be in the brand books here, one guy had an 02 on the hip and 100 miles away another guy had an O revers S on the same hip. Seems to me that would be a conflict. but that is what was in there, even tho' when I sent n for brands they were always telling me they were in conflict.

There could have been a huge wreck for brand inspectors in this area if we didn't all get along.

My brand
O
22

My cousin Rafter over 22

a neighbor Quarter Circle facing down over 22

All on the left hip. We all shared fences.
Who had who's brand first? Two of those should have never been allowed, in the same position. The board screwed up when the let them be approved, in my opinion.

My grandfather registered the V/4 in 1902. IN the 90's a young neighbor put in for and was allowed the 4/4 in the same position. We do not border, but a V can look much like a 4 and can be made into a 4 very easy. Not that I don't trust him, but they are not supposed to allow that.

There are 6 places to brand a cow. 8 if they allowed jaw brands. Figure up, math experts, the use of any combination of brands fro mall the letters in the alphabet, 0 thru' 9 in numbers and also the characters of a mill iron, rafter and all characters being in the lazy or crazy position. that is a lot of different brands, even if you threw out brands more likely to blotch such as B and R. There is really no excuse for there to be brands that similar.

And John, the non inspection east river just burns my butt. On the same token, why is there no brand inspection for horses in Neb. ?

got 2 niegbors one had a 2 lazt 2 the orher a r lazy s both on the left rib, so one got a double heart on the left hip and the other got 3 canes on the left hip.... we used ear mark to sort when it was hard to tell the brands apart.
 
JB, you probably remember my uncle's brand better than I do. IIRC, two figures of the brand were on the rib and one figure on the hip. The brand went J and bar on the rib. O on the hip.
 
Here in Indiana I registered a backwards G with a WK (All Gs must be backwards so you can't make a C into a G) on the left hip in 3" letters.

But in my travels thru the state I feel I might have the only cattle branded - - It sure makes it easy to spot.
 
John SD said:
JB, you probably remember my uncle's brand better than I do. IIRC, two figures of the brand were on the rib and one figure on the hip. The brand went J and bar on the rib. O on the hip.
Sure helped put it on quite a few calves over the years. The deal with Maynard and Mattie always tickled me. even tho' he had been dead for many years, she insisted that the calves had one of their brands. About half the cows were branded with her brand and half with is, so we'd do about half with the one brand and then switch and grand the other half with the other brand. Then they'd sell them all in a bunch and the check went to her for all of them. I guess she just wanted to keep the tradition going for both brands from both families. Made more work for the branders and the inspectors, but hey, she owned them both and they were her cattle. so she could do as she pleased.

I do similar. I use the old ranch brand on the heifers and my newer brand on the steers. Brand inspectors always scratch their heads when they have to inspect them. I was a local brand inspector for 11 years, so I don't feel sorry for them on my cattle. I ear mark accordingly for the brands.
 
I use Dad's brand on the left rib because that's what my calf table is set up for. :wink:

I also have my own brand which is on the right rib. It's a nice single iron 2 figure brand. Upside down J and a J on it's side underneath.

And I bought my sister's brand which I don't use. Don't really have any need for it, but good brands are good property to own and should maintain and possibly increase in value.
 

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