Bred cow sale.

[loomixguy]

I talked to a friend who is just north of the border-- and he said one of the major reasons their cattle/hay prices are so much lower is that they can't get fuel to haul them...
Limits on Diesel at 50 gallons a purchase doesn't get you far on the trucking road is what they are telling me... :???:
While our fuel and gas prices are dropping as much as $.20-.30 a day.. I've been running on fumes because you know the next day the price is cheaper...

More misinformation spread by a libtard. :roll:

Fuel price have dropped, but not at the rate the Fatman imagines, and certainly not "daily".

Good for you, Fatman! Run on fumes. Looks like your "ventures" must REALLY be paying off if you can't buy a tank of gas.....

 

[Soapweed]

It's possible the "fumes" were those provided by Jim Beam or Jack Daniels. :wink:

 

[Silver]

Although according to this Co-op has been getting behind:


Diesel shortage has Co-op refinery rationing fuel




Reported by Aaron Stuckel

First Posted: Nov 3, 2013 9:48am | Last Updated: Nov 3, 2013 10:10am



A diesel shortage in Western Canada has the Co-Op refinery on rations.

Trucks were seen lining up the refinery in the last few weeks waiting to get their rations from the 78-year-old refiner.

"This is an integrated industry in Western Canada, and what happens in one part of the sector can drive sales in other parts of the sector," refinery spokesman, Daryl Oshanek, said.

"Because of the harvest over this past fall—and the success that it was for the farming community—and some of the industry issues that were faced in Alberta, the Co-op refinery … saw an increase of sales of about 18 per cent in diesel in September compared to previous years. And in October, we saw a 28 per cent increase."

This year was a record harvest for many farmers in the province, and one that would've involved a lot of trucking to transport crops. The other aspect increasing the demand for diesel was refinery shutdowns in Alberta which have pushed customers away from certain competitors and into the bays of Co-Op's refinery.

"For us, it's been a good news story," said Oshanek.

"We're seeing sales. We're selling every ounce of product that we are producing out of Regina."

But for farmers and truckers, it means they've only been allowed 300 litres per fill, and Oshanek said it could be a while before things return back to normal.

"Once all the competitors get back on line with their inventories, that will work its way into the system again and things will improve," he said, though he couldn't say when that might be.

With files from CJME's Alex Docking.

 

[Kato]

No rationing at Petro as far as I know.

 

[PureCountry]

A buddy of mine was heading from Alberta to Saskatoon to pick up a new piece of equipment and the dealer in Saskatoon told him to fill up wherever there were stations because of this shortage. Seems odd.

 

[Denny]

Gasoline has dropped in price 70 cents a gallon diesel has'nt moved more than a dime.

 

[RanchHeifers]

Here is a sampling of what prices are looking like
For more info Visit www.Heifer.PRO
Sale Dates Total Heifers Sold Average Price
Superior Livestock $1,659
9/27/2013 417
7/29/2013 192
8/21/2013 54
9/10/2013 1903
10/25/2013 40
11/8/2013 620
Northern Video $1,711
9/9/2013 1617
10/9/2013 50
St. Onge SD $1,913
11/2/2013 50
Valentine NE $2,030
10/21/2013 82
Western Livestock MT $1,635
11/1/2013 35
FT Pierre SD $1,779
10/26/2013 192
11/9/2013 90
Bassett NE $1,933
10/30/2013 126
Mobridge SD $1,955
11/2/2013 164
Western Video $1,571
11/1/2013 239
10/11/2013 450
9/9/2013 160
Torrington $1,949
11/1/2013 207
10/28/2013 84

 

[3words]

OT.. What a dumb comment. I don't know what world your friend is living in, but there are no limits here. Not even on the radar.

Don't forget BSE cost us pretty much our entire next generation. I only know of three operations around here where the owner is under 40 years old, and every one of those is one of our former 4H members. The rest are gone. And they won't be back.

At our local auction a couple of weeks ago one fellow brought in his calves to sell. They were about as perfect as you could ask for. Lots of them sold for well over a thousand dollars, and they weighed up really well. Their mothers were fantastic cows. The next week, with this good advertising under his belt, the cows came for sale. They sold for less money than the calves. I imagine most went for slaughter. It's enough to break your heart.

It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You got more in your area,then we do in our area Kato.I know of 1 guy under 45 and thats it.We are a dying breed,and it's a slow painful death to watch.

 

[Jake]

OT.. What a dumb comment. I don't know what world your friend is living in, but there are no limits here. Not even on the radar.

Don't forget BSE cost us pretty much our entire next generation. I only know of three operations around here where the owner is under 40 years old, and every one of those is one of our former 4H members. The rest are gone. And they won't be back.

At our local auction a couple of weeks ago one fellow brought in his calves to sell. They were about as perfect as you could ask for. Lots of them sold for well over a thousand dollars, and they weighed up really well. Their mothers were fantastic cows. The next week, with this good advertising under his belt, the cows came for sale. They sold for less money than the calves. I imagine most went for slaughter. It's enough to break your heart.

It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

You got more in your area,then we do in our area Kato.I know of 1 guy under 45 and thats it.We are a dying breed,and it's a slow painful death to watch.

Our area isn't much better. There are quite a few guys my age that are trying to make a start but you can't afford to buy much at the moment and renting something is a joke if you don't have the nicest newest machinery. No way a young guy can make a living farming and ranching in our area. Have to have outside income to make a living as there aren't many "ins" to make farming your fulltime gig.

 

[littlejoe]

OT.. What a dumb comment. I don't know what world your friend is living in, but there are no limits here. Not even on the radar.

Don't forget BSE cost us pretty much our entire next generation. I only know of three operations around here where the owner is under 40 years old, and every one of those is one of our former 4H members. The rest are gone. And they won't be back.

At our local auction a couple of weeks ago one fellow brought in his calves to sell. They were about as perfect as you could ask for. Lots of them sold for well over a thousand dollars, and they weighed up really well. Their mothers were fantastic cows. The next week, with this good advertising under his belt, the cows came for sale. They sold for less money than the calves. I imagine most went for slaughter. It's enough to break your heart.

It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot.

:roll: :roll: :roll:[/quot


"It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot. "

I got lots of Canadian friends and relatives and always figured they divided our countries wrong---shoulda drew the line north to south and left the back easters and left coasties together.

That being said---our markets never were completely closed to you--even during worst of bse. Even though our own markets overseas have never completed recovered--and perhaps not even our domestic demand---we let you back in. You are the ones where the bse cattle originated that started this whole mess---long after any any cow fed byproducts shoulda died of old age---thank yourselves. As far as cool---you can buy a bag of apples and every damn one of them says where it's from--really shouldn't be that tough and people got a right to know where their food comes from.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

OT.. What a dumb comment. I don't know what world your friend is living in, but there are no limits here. Not even on the radar.

Don't forget BSE cost us pretty much our entire next generation. I only know of three operations around here where the owner is under 40 years old, and every one of those is one of our former 4H members. The rest are gone. And they won't be back.

At our local auction a couple of weeks ago one fellow brought in his calves to sell. They were about as perfect as you could ask for. Lots of them sold for well over a thousand dollars, and they weighed up really well. Their mothers were fantastic cows. The next week, with this good advertising under his belt, the cows came for sale. They sold for less money than the calves. I imagine most went for slaughter. It's enough to break your heart.

It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot.

:roll: :roll: :roll:[/quot


"It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot. "

I got lots of Canadian friends and relatives and always figured they divided our countries wrong---shoulda drew the line north to south and left the back easters and left coasties together.

That being said---our markets never were completely closed to you--even during worst of bse. Even though our own markets overseas have never completed recovered--and perhaps not even our domestic demand---we let you back in. You are the ones where the bse cattle originated that started this whole mess---long after any any cow fed byproducts shoulda died of old age---thank yourselves. As far as cool---you can buy a bag of apples and every damn one of them says where it's from--really shouldn't be that tough and people got a right to know where their food comes from.

Do those apple still have the sticker after the skin is off?

 

[Circle5]

How big of a nightmare is it to get a truckload of cattle across the border into the US? I need to buy about 60 more cows and that would be a much better price than around here!

 

[S.S.A.P.]

I have an import information page on our web site. It is linked from our bull sale page. If you get sidetracked and find our comm Breds offered, there are only 8 straight bred Angus left.

http://southshadow.homestead.com/Exporting_Canadian_Breeding_Cattle_to_United_States_Of_America.html

 

[Silver]

OT.. What a dumb comment. I don't know what world your friend is living in, but there are no limits here. Not even on the radar.

Don't forget BSE cost us pretty much our entire next generation. I only know of three operations around here where the owner is under 40 years old, and every one of those is one of our former 4H members. The rest are gone. And they won't be back.

At our local auction a couple of weeks ago one fellow brought in his calves to sell. They were about as perfect as you could ask for. Lots of them sold for well over a thousand dollars, and they weighed up really well. Their mothers were fantastic cows. The next week, with this good advertising under his belt, the cows came for sale. They sold for less money than the calves. I imagine most went for slaughter. It's enough to break your heart.

It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot.

:roll: :roll: :roll:[/quot


"It started on May 20, 2003, it got worse with MCOOL, and the damage is not done yet. Thanks a lot. "

I got lots of Canadian friends and relatives and always figured they divided our countries wrong---shoulda drew the line north to south and left the back easters and left coasties together.

That being said---our markets never were completely closed to you--even during worst of bse. Even though our own markets overseas have never completed recovered--and perhaps not even our domestic demand---we let you back in. You are the ones where the bse cattle originated that started this whole mess---long after any any cow fed byproducts shoulda died of old age---thank yourselves. As far as cool---you can buy a bag of apples and every damn one of them says where it's from--really shouldn't be that tough and people got a right to know where their food comes from.

Do those apple still have the sticker after the skin is off?

I guess there is no answer to that BMR :roll:

 

[Circle5]

I have an import information page on our web site. It is linked from our bull sale page. If you get sidetracked and find our comm Breds offered, there are only 8 straight bred Angus left.

http://southshadow.homestead.com/Exporting_Canadian_Breeding_Cattle_to_United_States_Of_America.html

Thanks!

Now I gotta find some sale barn's in the eastern SK or MB area. If they are really selling good cattle at 1000 to 1200 a head.

 

[Anonymous]

Do those apple still have the sticker after the skin is off?

I guess there is no answer to that BMR :roll:

Probably wasn't answered because its a stupid question... One of those apples to oranges questions (apples to beef :roll: ).... The consumer is the one removing the skin/label on apples-- which is not the same with beef- which without M- COOL regulation can be passed off with a USDA stamp as being domestic when in truth it is not...
Canadians should be above that- as I think they should not/do not need to lie and use false labels to sell their product....From what I hear anymore- even with some still worrying about their Mad Cow problem--the biggest concern is not Canadian product as much as it is Mexican and other countries imports that have much worse oversight....

 

[Silver]

Probably wasn't answered because its a stupid question... One of those apples to oranges questions (apples to beef :roll: ).... The consumer is the one removing the skin/label on apples-- which is not the same with beef- which without M- COOL regulation can be passed off with a USDA stamp as being domestic when in truth it is not...
Canadians should be above that- as I think they should not/do not need to lie and use false labels to sell their product....From what I hear anymore- even with some still worrying about their Mad Cow problem--the biggest concern is not Canadian product as much as it is Mexican and other countries imports that have much worse oversight....

It is NOT a stupid question OT. You and others refuse to see the truth (or worse yet decide they don't WANT to see it).

If you own a company that makes apple juice and source your apples from Canada you damn sure pick the stickers off and make your juice. Your bottle of juice gets a USA label on it. As it should. That way when your apple juice comes up tainted because you forgot to wash your hands it's YOUR problem and not Canada's.
And that is how the LAW is written. An item becomes a product of the country where it last underwent significant CHANGE.
I don't want you feeding and processing my cows in a low quality manner and labeling it as Canadian beef. Beef that is processed in Canada and sold in the US should have a product of Canada label on it.
You and I both know the only reason you support this law is because you feel it allows you to make a dollar at our expense, and we know you've been riding our coat tails for far too long.

 

[3words]

I have an import information page on our web site. It is linked from our bull sale page. If you get sidetracked and find our comm Breds offered, there are only 8 straight bred Angus left.

http://southshadow.homestead.com/Exporting_Canadian_Breeding_Cattle_to_United_States_Of_America.html

Thanks!

Now I gotta find some sale barn's in the eastern SK or MB area. If they are really selling good cattle at 1000 to 1200 a head.

Here is a place they are selling that cheap,and its Saskatoon livestock sales.306 382 8088.Its near saskatoon,i know you wanted to buy them a little closer,but when your buying them that cheap,what do you care if they are on a truck a extra 2 hours.Next bred cow sale is dec 19th,and they don't have any listings yet for 2014.

 

[gcreekrch]

Probably wasn't answered because its a stupid question... One of those apples to oranges questions (apples to beef :roll: ).... The consumer is the one removing the skin/label on apples-- which is not the same with beef- which without M- COOL regulation can be passed off with a USDA stamp as being domestic when in truth it is not...
Canadians should be above that- as I think they should not/do not need to lie and use false labels to sell their product....From what I hear anymore- even with some still worrying about their Mad Cow problem--the biggest concern is not Canadian product as much as it is Mexican and other countries imports that have much worse oversight....

It is NOT a stupid question OT. You and others refuse to see the truth (or worse yet decide they don't WANT to see it).

If you own a company that makes apple juice and source your apples from Canada you damn sure pick the stickers off and make your juice. Your bottle of juice gets a USA label on it. As it should. That way when your apple juice comes up tainted because you forgot to wash your hands it's YOUR problem and not Canada's.
And that is how the LAW is written. An item becomes a product of the country where it last underwent significant CHANGE.
I don't want you feeding and processing my cows in a low quality manner and labeling it as Canadian beef. Beef that is processed in Canada and sold in the US should have a product of Canada label on it.
You and I both know the only reason you support this law is because you feel it allows you to make a dollar at our expense, and we know you've been riding our coat tails for far too long.

Think it's worth the effort explaining that to such an empty minded, greedy, selfish, patriot as OT?

 

[Anonymous]

Probably wasn't answered because its a stupid question... One of those apples to oranges questions (apples to beef :roll: ).... The consumer is the one removing the skin/label on apples-- which is not the same with beef- which without M- COOL regulation can be passed off with a USDA stamp as being domestic when in truth it is not...
Canadians should be above that- as I think they should not/do not need to lie and use false labels to sell their product....From what I hear anymore- even with some still worrying about their Mad Cow problem--the biggest concern is not Canadian product as much as it is Mexican and other countries imports that have much worse oversight....

It is NOT a stupid question OT. You and others refuse to see the truth (or worse yet decide they don't WANT to see it).

If you own a company that makes apple juice and source your apples from Canada you damn sure pick the stickers off and make your juice. Your bottle of juice gets a USA label on it. As it should. That way when your apple juice comes up tainted because you forgot to wash your hands it's YOUR problem and not Canada's.
And that is how the LAW is written. An item becomes a product of the country where it last underwent significant CHANGE.
I don't want you feeding and processing my cows in a low quality manner and labeling it as Canadian beef. Beef that is processed in Canada and sold in the US should have a product of Canada label on it.
You and I both know the only reason you support this law is because you feel it allows you to make a dollar at our expense, and we know you've been riding our coat tails for far too long.

If at your age now- if you don't see the fraud and dishonesty of taking a product born, raised, and processed in another country-- and slapping a USDA stamp on it to pass it off to consumers as a US product as packers do/have done for years - its a little late for me to be talking honesty and morality to you...

And You are correct- I do believe that we in the US should be doing everything in our power to make a dollar for the producers/business owners of our country- even if its at the expense of foreign owners ...

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67733&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

At least the product should be labeled to give the consumer an honest choice....