Oldtimer said:
Tam- Its pretty simple-- US packers are removing the Canadian markings and restamping with the USDA label and passing it off as US beef- I'm sure they aren't going thru the added effort and expense just for loyalty... Packers do things for only one reason, and its not loyalty, they do it to make money....OH I forgot- your one of the Canucks that still believe the Packers were being loyal to you when they took all the BSE subsidy money and ran with it- while letting the rest of the Canadian cattle industry starve :wink:
But they with their history to the organized crime ties I can expect it from- but when cattle producers go along with and openly support that deception and fraud it doesn't fit my image of cattlemen, ranchers or the history of what the cattle industry was built on....Tam if you support lying to and deceiveing consumers about what country their beef comes from- just so you can stick a few more bucks in your pocket, whats to say you won't lie and deceive on the shots and medication you give your calves- to make 2 bucks more-- or the age and birthdate on your calves if its worth another dollar...... Once you start supporting profiting off deception and fraud you are travelling a slippery slope...
As far as the BSE risk- we have only one thing to go on--CFIA's and USDA's testing results-...And right now these results indicate that Canada has a BSE problem several hundred times greater than the US- and that Canada has a feedban that didn't work or is being violated- why else for the 4 POST feedban cattle....That makes Canadian beef several hundred times more of a risk than US beef- and the final decision on that safety should be left to the consumer.....Especially since CFIA indicates it will be over 10 years before Canada can even hope to eradicate the disease...You can deny it and stick your head in the sand all you want- but that are the facts out there and denial won't change the facts....
So the boxes in the dumpster were out behind a US PACKING Plant, :shock: and the labels were changed before they hit your local butcher shop. :shock: A shop that would be trying to sell product with the US loyality card to US consumers wanting to show loyality to the US beef industry. :wink: I didn't know Glasgow had a packer that you would be dumpster diving behind. :lol: Oh I forgot you blame the packers and Canadians for everything, even the actions of YOUR LOCAL GLASGOW BUTCHER who according to your original statement is the one changing the labels and defrauding the public!!!
And you are one to talk about supporting lieing to stick a few bucks in your pocket. :x Tell us why you are supporting the lies of R-CALF if it is not to stick a few more bucks in your pocket, OLDTIMER? R-CALF claimed all our beef was tainted and unsafe for human consumption and you just posted you would have been stuck with diseased Canadian cattle if you had bought land in Canada. Well Oldtimer is ALL US BEEF UNSAFE because of your BSE problem. Or is it all of a sudden safe because of some magicial firewalls that protect consumers from US BSE but NOT IMPORTED. If you support the R-CALF statement of the US has the Safest Beef in the World because of the Highest standards in the World you are doing so because of your pocket book and you are already at the bottom of that slippery slope.
As far as the BSE risk- we have only one thing to go on--CFIA's and USDA's testing results-...And right now these results indicate that Canada has a BSE problem several hundred times greater than the US-
You Know Oldtimer the more you point fingers at the Canadian system the more questions you should be asking about YOUR SYSTEM. The test results proved one thing to most of the world and that was that if it wasn't for Phyllis the US would still be claiming they have no BSE in their native herd. Way to go Phyllis. And when she did that she also put a big question mark on the whole US BEEF INDUSTRY. Using the USDA test results to prove Canada is a higher risk is a joke. The only thing they prove is that we are looking to find the truth and we are willing to pass laws to clean up our system unlike the US industry. WE ALL KNOW you have BSE,(THANKS TO PHYLLIS) but has your industry done anything about it, NO. ASK YOURSELF
Where did your strain of BSE come from? I bet you can even tell us where Canada's came from. hint imported UK cattle in our feed system
What can be done about stopping the spread of your strain? Our feed bans have been updated AGAIN have yours? and before you say yours is not the same strain remember Oldtimer the Washington cow was in your system and processed along with millions of other Canadian cattle so I would think you would want to update your feed bans to protect your herd from at least the strain you know the cause of?
How long will it take the US to eradicate BSE from the US herd ? You say the CFIA indicated ten years but if you don't even know the source then how can you estimate how long it will take to eradicate the US strain and how long will it take to eradicate our strain from your herd if you still feed chicken crap to your cattle LEGALLY?
When do you think the US will start implimenting rules to protect you from BSE? OTHER than banning imports that will not protect you from what is ALREADY IN THE US NATIVE HERD. See Oldtimer you should have the answers to at least a few of the questions about the US BSE problem before you claim to know how much bigger our problem is. Who is really the higher risk with their unknowns and do nothing but blame attitudes. I agree label the beef OLDTIMER so the US consumer knows what to avoid which should be US BEEF if they really believe there is a risk to any beef :wink: