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catch pin design. "PICTURES"

Ok, I got pictures of our working pens maybe you can compare them to my drawing and dicypher between the two.

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Crowding Alley goin up toward chute

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this is the pen they come into before goin into the crowding pen.

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The gate between crowding pen and allyway goin to squeeze chute.

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Squeeze chute and alley, we can turn em back into the lot, or turn em out to pasture using the green gate.

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Here you can see what fences we were replacing.....they were horrible.

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Walk thru gates to keep from having to climb over fences when we work. Also can ride a horse thru them if need be.
 
jersey lilly, nice corrals, and good job on the welding! Would you maybe recommend having the alley so they couldn't see to the sides, or at least not see much? I need to get tutored on the picture thing, you're doing a great job!
 
Yes I'd recommend having a solid barrier so they can't see out in the alley,that's something that may come later, but I do agree it has a calming affect on em as they are moving forward toward the chute. But we've worked em twice now with these new corrals and they seem to do fine, not too much excitement.
 
When you mentioned a solid barrier I remmbered seeing where someone had used a tarp made out of that vinyl that is used for banner signs and zip tied it to the panels to help get cattle around to corner. i don't think the vinyl would snap and rattle like a poly tarp.
 
One thing to try, as I have gotten older I like 6 foot walk thru gates as they are easier to ride thru. Not that you can't ride thru a narrower gate, i just like 6 foot wide better,

Like I said before Lily, I do like what I have seen of those corrals. On the sheeting, what got yo the corrals in the first place was the cost of the suckker rod. Sheeting is nice, but costs,

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Those small gates you see in our pictures were more or less after thoughts, I'm usually the one doin the climbin over to go fetch this that or the other and when we got the posts set, I said...um why not put small gates in there so we can walk thru and not go over the top. It also helps in sortin one or two out if need be.
On the alley goin up to the chute I'd like to have bridge railing...but can't seem to find any of that, cept for whats "in use" along the highway lol
 
Lilly,

I definetly agree, a pet peeve of mine is anytime I have to climb over,

You really need to try a manufactured adjsustable width alley going up to your Chute. They make all the difference in the world. Sort off the cows and calves, then set it for the size of animal, I wouldn't be without one,


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We sort calves from cows and work them first, load what we are selling. Vaccinate and tag the rest and turn them out...or back in depending on what we are doing with them. Then that just leaves the cows, our squeeze chute is adjustable for cows or calves. I've seen the alley's for calves, like at ropings, with the lil bar that flops down behind them where they can't walk backward, the'd be nice to have something like that, we can always add things as we go along tho I guess, till we get it like we want.
 
Looks like a good set of pens Jersy.

As for blocking the view of the cattle, I have to tell a story.

We were working the neighbors cows at a branding. He had a plank and post chute with gaps between the planks. I was running a bar behnd the cows as a backstop. Two other guys were giving the shots to the cows, as they came up the chute. One guy would crouch down and keep his back to the cows who were coming into the chute and wait for the cows to come to him and then just reach in and give the shot.

The other feller would turn around and look to see if more cows were coming when ever there wasn't a cow for him to vaccinate.

He happened to be wearing a white shirt. I noticed that the cows would be starting to come into the chute, but as soon as he faced them, the cows would stop. I exp0lained this to him and told him if he would just stand there and wait for the cows to come in, instead of looking back, the cows would come in better as they couldn't see his face and the rest of him would just resemble a post. He laughed and thought that was really funny!

I told him I was serious, but he wouldn't listen. As soon as the crew fought a cow in and she moved ahead, down the chute, he would turn and try to vaccinate her. And then the rest of the cows would come!

Some people just don't understand cows, I guess. And this guy has a farm/ranch and is our state representitive! :shock: :o :x :cry: :lol:
 
I loved the comment about running the foor rot off :o - - - I bought a roping horse "My Dream Lady" out of Oklahoma several years ago and when I was using her she would put me right in place all day if I was moderately successful :D - - - let me miss twice in a row though and she would sull up for about 30 minutes :o and you might as well not try to rope. She did not mind working but she wanted me to do my part :? . I really hated it one day when she came to the barn with her left forleg hanging by a little skin :( :( :( . There was no chance to save her :( and I had to put her down - - - my step dad offered to come and do it for me but I felt better doing it myself :cry: . I just felt I owed her that much :cry: .
 
It sure ain't fun to "put down" a good ol' horse, or maybe even any horse for that matter, but I would rather do it myself and know it was done quickly and efficently than worry about someone else "botching" the job.

When my good old horses have come to the end of their retirement and life isn't fun for them anymore, I give them a good bait of oats and then help mother nature along, so as they won't suffer.

I won't sell a good horse thru' the salebarn, when they get old. I don't feel they owe me anything and I don't want them to suffer at others hands or from other younger horsers.

But I hate the fact that the PETA types have put an end to our horse kill plants. What are we supposed to do with the rejects and horses no one can or will feed anymore? A guy told me the other day that we all need to find these people who want the plants shut down and haul a load of horses to their backyards and turn them loose and then ask them "what are you going to do with them? How are you going to feed them and for how long?"

I think some of those people just think if they end the slaughter plants, then there will be no more horses allowed to die. Everything dies, sometime. Until they do, you have to take care and feed them and protect them. Humans, animals and plant life!
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I can't agree more - - - I have a 1970 model stud ( Gavin's Scooter Bye) I used to cut on still here - - when life is no longer a joy for him I will put him down - - - I would not have a problem with him going for slaughter if I felt he was treated with the respect he has earned until the end. But I don't see this happening so I will put him down at the right time.

Most PETA people and other redicals are going thru life with blinders on. I feel if they were out in the real world for a while they would change quickly.
 
JingleBob, I sure do agree with you and I love horses as much or more than anyone. I love GOOD horses, I should say. There are some horses that need to be done away with. Why those "goody-goodies" don't understand that, is beyond me.

If they really wanted to help, they could do something about the way the horses are trucked. I sure don't like it when they put horses in a pot. And if a horse is old and feeble or crippled, I wonder how they stay up when they are loaded up with just everything; studs, mares; etc. I think that is not a good deal and that is why our good horses will be here til the day they need put down. They have earned that right. If they are good, we want to own them til the day they die. Then you don't have to worry about their fate.

But some people don't have the ground to keep horses that long. It doesn't take long to have a lot of retirees, either.
 

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