Bill said:
aplusmnt said:
I look at each thread and comment on its own merits. I have not read any thing about andybob on here, but I do remember some of his story from Cattletoday.
But no matter what adversary he has overcome or how unfair he has been treated in the past, I do not appreciate him blaming my country for it! And that is what it all boils down to!!
He can be a great person and did great things, but if he blames my country for his problems then I will call him out on it. Especially when he choose to move here after harbouring the feelings that he obviously has towards America!
You really seem to miss the point!
I never said one bad thing in my life to andybob until he drawed first blood accusing my country for his problems!!!!!!!!!!!
I am tired of the world blaming the U.S. for all its problems. But then expecting us to fix and pay for the ones they want us to!
The U.S. has did a thousand times more good world wide than any bad that might get blamed on us!!!!!!!!
We see many come here and live and still harbour anti American views. We see it with the Muslims that move here, we see it in the Mexican community that moves here and obviously we saw it in andybobs comment here on ranchers.net!!!!!
That being said I am done with this thread! I should have known better than to try to carry on a conversation about 2 things I am so very passionate about Gun Control and Immigration. I am just lucky we did not mention abortion who knows how bad it might have gotten!
My Bad! Sorry!
Ps. Never thought taking guns away from immigrants would stop one single crime. I do not believe gun control stops crime! Just did not think green card immigrants were entitled to the right to bear arms, especially when a 20 year old Iraq soldier born and raised here can not buy one. I believe more guns stop crime not less!!!!
One simple question aplusmnt.
What country did your ancestors emigrate from that entitles you to such a profoundly arrogant "we were here first attitude"?
:roll:
Yes there are some immigrants who shouldn't be on North American soil but be careful with that wide brush you are painting everyone that didn't arrive on the Mayflower with. Quite a bit of that paint it is dripping back on you.
Mrs. Greg you are right in that
some Americans do wear a Maple Leaf or have one attached to their luggage, especially when travelling in Europe. I have seen it numerous times and also have been treated much differently myself once others look past my Wranglers, hat and boots and find out I am a Canadian. All of a sudden they CAN speak English!! I know it's not right because I have travelled most parts of the US and know many fine Americans but it is a fact that is brought about by attitudes such as some seen in this thread.
It's really comical reading some posts and seeing how some consider themselves such experts on world happenings when they don't even have a passport and in some cases haven't even been out of their own state! :roll:
I know I said I was done, but since you asked me a direct question I will answer.
Farthest I am for sure about is my ancestry going back to fighting in the Revolutionary war on my mothers side and I know it is a about the same time frame on my dads, but have no proof that my fathers side had a soldier in the Revolutionary war.
But that does not matter, I live in 2007 and am a citizen of the United States. In doing so I have a right and responsibility to take the issue of immigration serious. I am being crucified because I state a specific regulations that I feel would be fair and just for immigrants in my country.
Just because people migrated here freely some 100-200 years ago does not mean they still have that freedom. The melting pot is full, and we live in a time of restrictions. The United States is not some community property of the world. We fought for our freedom and right to be our own country during the Revolutionary war. And in doing so we won the right to regulate and pass laws regarding our immigration policy. We are not world wide community property, as I feel many in the world think we are.
We have a right to restrict citizenship and govern the laws of immigrants.
I wonder how many of you that label me as some sort of bigot because I believe in restricting certain constitutional rights held out for our citizens upon green card residents, approve of all the laws regulating the immigration issues in your own country?
How do you feel about the State Welfare Assistance problems you face with immigrants into Canada? Do you feel they should receive the same welfare assistance as Canadians that are citizens? My opinions on gun purchasing may be not much different than your outrage at the Welfare that the growing number of immigrant are receiving in your own Country.
If you think about the entitlement you seem to preaching on United States it is kind of leaning towards the argument of one World Power. You feel you should be able to have the same rights and freedom's that our citizens enjoy.
I have no problem with legal immigration and citizenship earned. The best man at my wedding nickname was Taco, and many of his family did not speak English, but they came here legally. I have no problem with that, even though I have major problems with the illegal immigrants.
I am not a anti immigration I just believe certain rights should be held out for citizenship.
1. Voting
2. being elected into public office.
4. Gun Purchasing.
As upset as some of you are getting on those opinions you must have some pretty liberal social views in your own Country? Or is it just my country that should be the World Community?