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SJ without game wardens for the past 70+ years we would never have the numbers we do today! That is a fact as market hunters would see to that!
Landowners help greatly providing edge for the wildlife in crop areas more so than any other. The more diverse the habitat the more species and numbers it can support! CRP is a great addition sadly going the otherway due to high crop prices and land prices which go hand in hand.
Sportsman contribute much to the wildlife, many of the programs landowners have can be linked to pittman robertson dollars that started in 1937 and totals over 4 billion dollars to conservation. Thanks to landowners and sportsman and the Game depts for the wildlife we do have that number has risen to 200 million a year directly from sportsman purchases. Hunters and sportsman fund nearly 75% of all funding for the 50 states game agencys! 20,000,000 people partake in hunting related activitys and hunting contributes 30 Billion to the economy each year and employes 1 million jobs related to hunting!
To state we would have the wildlife we do without these people and the game depts is without facts plain and simple. If you have them please post them! It is a combined effort, but without conservation and people like Teddy R and others like Aldo Luepold we would all be market hunting in one way or the other and the numbers would not be what they are today across the US!
Doug, the majority isn't with you on road hunting or open fields or your state would repeal these actions! On the ownership of land why not? Do you want to force all to have to pay a tresspass fee to hunt? Or spend more on fully guided? You won't get young people or get your doe harvest that way at all! I wish more states followed SD and others and had the public hunting you do! You will see in the future these small land holdings compaired to private will give your state and others who follow suit a nice net return on the money through added tourism and opportunitys. Hunting and conservation was never to value the resource with a dollar amount or we can live like England where only the "rich" for the most part get to partake in hunting. That is not what the US is about or should be about. Tell me what % of all lands in your state is owned by the state please?
It is the blue collar guy that will come shoot the doe's and keep numbers in check, not the ones with an open check book as they have little interest in feeding anyone, they want horns and the rareity's that others can not afford to hunt. Hunting is a long tradtion that goes across all economic levels and the playing field for hunting and the pursuit should be for ALL people not just the privalged few who have the big bucks. You will get little in hunter recruitment with pay to hunt spreading and the animals will be there creating more and more problems and we will all pay for the services needed to combat the situation.
Hunting is the cheapest and best approach to limit species who have breeched the carrying capacity of the ground! If you can proove a cheaper method for states by all means do so!
The lock out in your state and some of what LB states needs to be refuted as it is plain false on occasion and is filled with bias and hatred and no facts to back much of it! I or others don't write it, but we sure have a right to debate it and proove it as without facts!
Your fine lockout is the one to try and limit hunting because you have an on going beef with this open fields issue, if you wanted it to pass the litmus test you would have recorded all people involved and the numbers of acres and no meaning no, many have posted on this topic knowing those that ,they put up the signs yet still continue on with pay to hunt and letting people come to thin the hurd on the back gate approach. The facts are it is a small fraction of people that take it to that degree and that you have a state really divided on this issue and the outlook of your game dept is clearly divided as well with the majority behind them and not fighting them tooth and nail like a few do! Move on to issues that can be solved first! Respect is a 2 way street.
I talk to people in your fine state and many from the east just chuckle on some of these issues and find them to be of little value in the scope of the state as a whole! The main issue and fact is the majority of voters in your state are in the East half and these are the ones paying the majority into your state coffers and they have a louder voice, works that way in every state unless your pop. is more equally distibuted, and you would be better off meeting in the middle than butting heads and really pick the issues that matter stateline to state line. This is just my opinion.
Landowners help greatly providing edge for the wildlife in crop areas more so than any other. The more diverse the habitat the more species and numbers it can support! CRP is a great addition sadly going the otherway due to high crop prices and land prices which go hand in hand.
Sportsman contribute much to the wildlife, many of the programs landowners have can be linked to pittman robertson dollars that started in 1937 and totals over 4 billion dollars to conservation. Thanks to landowners and sportsman and the Game depts for the wildlife we do have that number has risen to 200 million a year directly from sportsman purchases. Hunters and sportsman fund nearly 75% of all funding for the 50 states game agencys! 20,000,000 people partake in hunting related activitys and hunting contributes 30 Billion to the economy each year and employes 1 million jobs related to hunting!
To state we would have the wildlife we do without these people and the game depts is without facts plain and simple. If you have them please post them! It is a combined effort, but without conservation and people like Teddy R and others like Aldo Luepold we would all be market hunting in one way or the other and the numbers would not be what they are today across the US!
Doug, the majority isn't with you on road hunting or open fields or your state would repeal these actions! On the ownership of land why not? Do you want to force all to have to pay a tresspass fee to hunt? Or spend more on fully guided? You won't get young people or get your doe harvest that way at all! I wish more states followed SD and others and had the public hunting you do! You will see in the future these small land holdings compaired to private will give your state and others who follow suit a nice net return on the money through added tourism and opportunitys. Hunting and conservation was never to value the resource with a dollar amount or we can live like England where only the "rich" for the most part get to partake in hunting. That is not what the US is about or should be about. Tell me what % of all lands in your state is owned by the state please?
It is the blue collar guy that will come shoot the doe's and keep numbers in check, not the ones with an open check book as they have little interest in feeding anyone, they want horns and the rareity's that others can not afford to hunt. Hunting is a long tradtion that goes across all economic levels and the playing field for hunting and the pursuit should be for ALL people not just the privalged few who have the big bucks. You will get little in hunter recruitment with pay to hunt spreading and the animals will be there creating more and more problems and we will all pay for the services needed to combat the situation.
Hunting is the cheapest and best approach to limit species who have breeched the carrying capacity of the ground! If you can proove a cheaper method for states by all means do so!
The lock out in your state and some of what LB states needs to be refuted as it is plain false on occasion and is filled with bias and hatred and no facts to back much of it! I or others don't write it, but we sure have a right to debate it and proove it as without facts!
Your fine lockout is the one to try and limit hunting because you have an on going beef with this open fields issue, if you wanted it to pass the litmus test you would have recorded all people involved and the numbers of acres and no meaning no, many have posted on this topic knowing those that ,they put up the signs yet still continue on with pay to hunt and letting people come to thin the hurd on the back gate approach. The facts are it is a small fraction of people that take it to that degree and that you have a state really divided on this issue and the outlook of your game dept is clearly divided as well with the majority behind them and not fighting them tooth and nail like a few do! Move on to issues that can be solved first! Respect is a 2 way street.
I talk to people in your fine state and many from the east just chuckle on some of these issues and find them to be of little value in the scope of the state as a whole! The main issue and fact is the majority of voters in your state are in the East half and these are the ones paying the majority into your state coffers and they have a louder voice, works that way in every state unless your pop. is more equally distibuted, and you would be better off meeting in the middle than butting heads and really pick the issues that matter stateline to state line. This is just my opinion.