Japan spots Banned Beef Products Found In US Turkey , Pork

[flounder]

Subject: Japan spots banned beef products in shipment
Date: July 14, 2006 at 7:30 am PST

July 14, 2006, 9:02AM
Japan spots banned beef products in shipment


Associated Press

TOKYO -- Japanese customs officials have spotted banned beef products as part of turkey and ham shipment from the United States, the Agriculture Ministry said today.

A box containing U.S. roast beef was spotted Monday as part of a shipment of more than 3,000 boxes containing turkey and ham from the United States, the ministry said.

The incident renewed concerns about the reliability of U.S. export controls as Japan is in the final stages of lifting a ban on U.S. beef imports.

Japan halted imports of U.S. beef in January after discovering a shipment with banned parts — only weeks after lifting an earlier ban imposed in 2003 over concerns about possible mad cow disease among U.S. cattle.

Mad cow disease is formally known as bovine spongiform encephalopathy, or BSE. In humans, eating meat contaminated with BSE is linked to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease, a rare and deadly nerve disease.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/4046865.html


THEY can't get those banned products to Japan legally, so they try and smuggle them in, amazing what extremes these people will go to. ...

TSS

 

[Manitoba_Rancher]

They are just trying to screw i tup for good. The japanese are very smart people and if you make them unhappy they will never accept your beef.

 

[Sandhusker]

They are just trying to screw i tup for good. The japanese are very smart people and if you make them unhappy they will never accept your beef.

You know that, I know that, the USDA needs to be informed.

 

[Judith]

What is going on with the USDA? Good greif Are they trying to get US beef banned! US cattlemen go get em before they totally screw things up!

 

[Tam]

Another isolated incedent or one of the stupidest tricks ever tried on an industry?????

I guess the heat from the magnifying glass the US beef industry is under has burnt a whole in the brain of somebody down there to think that Japan would not know the differents between turkey, ham and roast beef. :roll: I can see this doing alot for your credibility with the Japanese Government and their credibility with their consumers. :roll:

 

[Mike]

Another isolated incedent or one of the stupidest tricks ever tried on an industry?????

I guess the heat from the magnifying glass the US beef industry is under has burnt a whole in the brain of somebody down there to think that Japan would not know the differents between turkey, ham and roast beef. :roll: I can see this doing alot for your credibility with the Japanese Government and their credibility with their consumers. :roll:

Yea, I guess it's better to have a whole bunch of positives than it is to be dishonest, huh?

 

[Judith]

umm. yes it is better to have a bunch of positives than to be dishonest. Means we are coming clean on our end. Does a bit more for the reputation than to pull little stunts like that. How could whoever packed it be that dumb! I think we should find out where it came out of and then refuse to sell to that packer. Hit em in the wallet and stand up and say this will not be tolerated. The wallet seems to get the point across quite nicely.

 

[RobertMac]

How could whoever packed it be that dumb!

Dumb or sabotage?

 

[feeder]

I would like to know how beef got in with chicken and ham. I've never seen a chicken or a pig at the beef slaughtering plant I go to. But then I'm not familiar with how products are stored after they leave a plant.

 

[Tam]

Another isolated incedent or one of the stupidest tricks ever tried on an industry?????

I guess the heat from the magnifying glass the US beef industry is under has burnt a whole in the brain of somebody down there to think that Japan would not know the differents between turkey, ham and roast beef. :roll: I can see this doing alot for your credibility with the Japanese Government and their credibility with their consumers. :roll:

Yea, I guess it's better to have a whole bunch of positives than it is to be dishonest, huh?

A whole bunch of postives gee is 7 in just over 3 years a ""whole bunch in your books Mike? And remember we were able to come up with some answers and rules to prevent further spread, has the US with their 2 cases in just over a year?
Mike would you rather deal with a guy that admits he has a problem and is doing something about it or a guy the denies his problems , hides it, continually fails to follow the rules or implement any thing to further protect from the possible spread of the denied problem and puts you and yours at risk everytime you turn around? We may have a BSE problem but we still have our CREDIBILITY :wink: and in the world of Trade credibility is what keeps your foot in the door!!!!!!! Smuggleing ban produces into Japan while they are watching your every move was just plan ignorant and proves your industry can not be trusted to do the right thing. The credibility of your whole industry, from testing, to feed ban rules, to meat processing, to export deals have all come under a magnifying glass and have failed miserability. :roll: You claim to have the safest beef in the world well Mike it is time to prove it.

 

[Sandhusker]

Tam, am I correct in assuming that you don't trust the USDA?

 

[Mike]

And remember we were able to come up with some answers and rules to prevent further spread,

Appears you answers ain't working. But then again it might be better to have the wrong answers than to have no answers at all. :lol:

You don't trust the USDA do you? :lol: :lol:

Clue.....................Neither do I.

 

[Econ101]

What is going on with the USDA? Good greif Are they trying to get US beef banned! US cattlemen go get em before they totally screw things up!

Yes, Judith they are. The big packers already have the Japanese markets from overseas supplies. They don't want any other smaller U.S. company to be able to compete with them with U.S. beef. You see, in the competition game, the packers have the USDA bought out.

I wouldn't mind beef coming from Canada as long as it is tested for bse (if the Canadian govt. can give 49 million dollars to Tyson, why can't they pass out free bse tests?). I also advocating all beef coming from Canada not be beef from Cargill or Tyson. If it is from them, they should be taxed to completely subsidize the cost of BSE testing. Let the little packing houses have the free ride for once.

I also advocating bse tests for the U.S. market until we find we have BSE off of the continent. BSE was a big packer made problem and they should have to pay for it instead of profiting from it with their substitutes.

Half the USDA management needs to be brought up on RICO charges instead of hiding behind corrupt politicians. Secretary Johanns not following up on JoAnn Waterfield's corrupt GIPSA makes him an accomplice in the fraud.

Thats my rant for the day. I'm half serious about it too.

 

[Anonymous]

Just another little USDA confidence builder :wink:

I thought USDA was/would be extra vigilant with meat shipments to Japan...

These type of snafus always make me wonder how diligent our USDA is inspecting the meat being imported INTO the US from around the world- that they allow the Packer/retailer to remove the country of origin label off of and fraudulently relabel with a USDA inspected stamp and pass off to consumers as US product when it was never even looked at by a US employee....What did Tommy Thompson say- less than .05% of imported product is ever looked at by a US government inspector...

What country was it that sent us God knows how much donkey meat that USDA allowed to be restamped with the USDA inspected stamp and was passed off as US beef? Morrocco I believe...

I just read an article the other day where because of the high US cattle prices, huge numbers of Mexican cattle are being shipped into the US- which is causing a shortage of cattle for the Mexican slaughterhouses, who have turned to slaughtering anything that walks or can be drug in...They said that much of their slaughter was now made up of US horses- and were also doing donkeys and goats...I wonder how much of that "good lean donkey meat" comes into the US under the diligent eyes of the USDA and receives the USDA inspected stamp and is passed off as US beef in our hamburgers.. :???:

 

[HAY MAKER]

Another isolated incedent or one of the stupidest tricks ever tried on an industry?????

I guess the heat from the magnifying glass the US beef industry is under has burnt a whole in the brain of somebody down there to think that Japan would not know the differents between turkey, ham and roast beef. :roll: I can see this doing alot for your credibility with the Japanese Government and their credibility with their consumers. :roll:

Yea, I guess it's better to have a whole bunch of positives than it is to be dishonest, huh?

A whole bunch of postives gee is 7 in just over 3 years a ""whole bunch in your books Mike?

And remember we were able to come up with some answers and rules to prevent further spread,

has the US with their 2 cases in just over a year?
Mike would you rather deal with a guy that admits he has a problem and is doing something about it or a guy the denies his problems , hides it, continually fails to follow the rules or implement any thing to further protect from the possible spread of the denied problem and puts you and yours at risk everytime you turn around? We may have a BSE problem but we still have our CREDIBILITY :wink: and in the world of Trade credibility is what keeps your foot in the door!!!!!!! Smuggleing ban produces into Japan while they are watching your every move was just plan ignorant and proves your industry can not be trusted to do the right thing. The credibility of your whole industry, from testing, to feed ban rules, to meat processing, to export deals have all come under a magnifying glass and have failed miserability. :roll: You claim to have the safest beef in the world well Mike it is time to prove it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Miss Tam ,you are a funny girl.............good luck

 

[Manitoba_Rancher]

Just another little USDA confidence builder :wink:

I thought USDA was/would be extra vigilant with meat shipments to Japan...

These type of snafus always make me wonder how diligent our USDA is inspecting the meat being imported INTO the US from around the world- that they allow the Packer/retailer to remove the country of origin label off of and fraudulently relabel with a USDA inspected stamp and pass off to consumers as US product when it was never even looked at by a US employee....What did Tommy Thompson say- less than .05% of imported product is ever looked at by a US government inspector...

What country was it that sent us God knows how much donkey meat that USDA allowed to be restamped with the USDA inspected stamp and was passed off as US beef? Morrocco I believe...

I just read an article the other day where because of the high US cattle prices, huge numbers of Mexican cattle are being shipped into the US- which is causing a shortage of cattle for the Mexican slaughterhouses, who have turned to slaughtering anything that walks or can be drug in...They said that much of their slaughter was now made up of US horses- and were also doing donkeys and goats...I wonder how much of that "good lean donkey meat" comes into the US under the diligent eyes of the USDA and receives the USDA inspected stamp and is passed off as US beef in our hamburgers.. :???:

OT how come R-calf isnt doing something about htis donkey meat? If r-calf members eat this meat then they are eating their own, because they are a bunch of jack@$$3?

 

[Tam]

Tam, am I correct in assuming that you don't trust the USDA?

Tell us Sandhusker if your government, the USDA, implements rules for your industry to live up to, is it the USDA that are to follow the rules OR IS IT UP TO THE US BEEF INDUSTRY TO FOLLOW THEM? :?

The USDA can write all the rules they want but if the whole US beef industry is not willing to do their part in following them, the rules are useless. Blaming the USDA for exporting a ban produced that was boxed by and exported by someone within the US beef industry is just another example of the US beef industry blaming someone else for the non-compliant problems within YOUR INDUSTRY. In this case, Sure the USDA inspectors should have found it BUT WHY WAS IT EVEN THERE IT IS AGAINST YOUR EXPORT RULES? As I see it the USDA's biggest credibility problem stems from the US BEEF INDUSTRY's reluctance to follow any rules, right from the grassroot producer that don't want to be burden to prove where All US cattle originates, to the beef exporter that shipped this box of roasts. Do something about your sectors and see to it the rest do the same. :x

 

[Sandhusker]

Tam, am I correct in assuming that you don't trust the USDA?

Tell us Sandhusker if your government, the USDA, implements rules for your industry to live up to, is it the USDA that are to follow the rules OR IS IT UP TO THE US BEEF INDUSTRY TO FOLLOW THEM? :?

The USDA can write all the rules they want but if the whole US beef industry is not willing to do their part in following them, the rules are useless. Blaming the USDA for exporting a ban produced that was boxed by and exported by someone within the US beef industry is just another example of the US beef industry blaming someone else for the non-compliant problems within YOUR INDUSTRY. In this case, Sure the USDA inspectors should have found it BUT WHY WAS IT EVEN THERE IT IS AGAINST YOUR EXPORT RULES? As I see it the USDA's biggest credibility problem stems from the US BEEF INDUSTRY's reluctance to follow any rules, right from the grassroot producer that don't want to be burden to prove where All US cattle originates, to the beef exporter that shipped this box of roasts. Do something about your sectors and see to it the rest do the same. :x

You didn't answer my question. You talked about hiding the problem, not implementing rules that would stop further spreading of the disease, testing, etc.... It sounded like you didn't think too highly of the USDA to me. So tell me, do you trust the USDA to be forthright on our BSE situation here?

 

[Tam]

Tam, am I correct in assuming that you don't trust the USDA?

Tell us Sandhusker if your government, the USDA, implements rules for your industry to live up to, is it the USDA that are to follow the rules OR IS IT UP TO THE US BEEF INDUSTRY TO FOLLOW THEM? :?

The USDA can write all the rules they want but if the whole US beef industry is not willing to do their part in following them, the rules are useless. Blaming the USDA for exporting a ban produced that was boxed by and exported by someone within the US beef industry is just another example of the US beef industry blaming someone else for the non-compliant problems within YOUR INDUSTRY. In this case, Sure the USDA inspectors should have found it BUT WHY WAS IT EVEN THERE IT IS AGAINST YOUR EXPORT RULES? As I see it the USDA's biggest credibility problem stems from the US BEEF INDUSTRY's reluctance to follow any rules, right from the grassroot producer that don't want to be burden to prove where All US cattle originates, to the beef exporter that shipped this box of roasts. Do something about your sectors and see to it the rest do the same. :x

You didn't answer my question. You talked about hiding the problem, not implementing rules that would stop further spreading of the disease, testing, etc.... It sounded like you didn't think too highly of the USDA to me. So tell me, do you trust the USDA to be forthright on our BSE situation here?

I don't trust the US beef industry as a whole to be forthright. When one sector screws up everyone's credibility pays including the USDA. If the beef industry would follow the rules then maybe the USDA would not have to cover up your problem. :wink:

That I would have to say is the biggest different between the US industry and the Canadian. You want to blame everything on the failures of the USDA. In Canada our industry admitted this is an industry problem and if we want to get pass it stronger than ever it is going to take the INDUSTRY as a whole to fix it. Nobody owes us a living. if we as producers want to keep our way of life alive we have to do the work to prove to consumers we can be trusted with their health. Sure the CFIA tests our animals but if we are not willing to turn our 4D over, they would be forced to do the same as the USDA, cheat the testing by testing the wrong cattle and not finding the out the truth. The CFIA audits our Cattle ID program but We as an industry designed it and maintain it and it's integuity. So if there is a health issue we have a very important tool to aid the CFIA in their COMPLETE investigations. We as an industry added age vertifation by birthdate to aid in the exporting of our cattle not CFIA cattle. That is why we still have credibility with our trading partners even though we have had a "whole bunch more cases" Try lending the USDA a helpping hand instead of blaming the USDA and see what it does for the credibility of the Whole US beef industry INCLUDING THE USDA's. :shock:


BTW you never answered my question who is responsible for following the rules that the USDA writes? :wink:

 

[Mike]

Tam wrote: If the beef industry would follow the rules then maybe the USDA would not have to cover up your problem

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