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He looks nice, Denny. Lots of volume, long necked and very proud. The OCC stuff is a good compliment these days, it seems to me. Where did you get him?
I need to take some pictures of our calves and post them. We had our first calf out of grandsons of Anchor today and our heifers are calving out of Magnitude, an Emblazon son. (Both are OCC breeding.)
One thing that bears watching with OCC is scrotal and fertility. IMO
I need to take some pictures of our calves and post them. We had our first calf out of grandsons of Anchor today and our heifers are calving out of Magnitude, an Emblazon son. (Both are OCC breeding.)
One thing that bears watching with OCC is scrotal and fertility. IMO
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I like him he's good and thick. I see you also have a use for wood pallets around the chute.
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I haven't seen Kit Pharo's catalog yet, but should be getting it. Lots of OCC stuff in there...and I think Kits and OCC cattle work for grass-fed beef. FWIW.
You can request a catalog, and they have a sight-unseen guarantee if you talk with him a few days before the sale and tell him what you want.
The bull we got was a F0203 Rito and Papa Durabull. I like the old Rito breeding really well. Explosive growth, good females. We kept the Rito line in our cattle for a long time. We have gone to OCC bloodlines to cross and now are using some Wyebloodlines as well. But we aren't looking for "BIGGER IS BETTER" kind of cattle. We want form and function cattle.
The thing about Kit is he has cooperators and not all the cattle are from one breeder. There is usually something pretty interesting in the catalog though.
Someone told me mixing red cattle on black cattle (or vice-versa) is the hot thing to do now. A bull of that lineage brought $250,000 (or something like that) at a recent sale and that bull was black Angus/red Angus cross.
Maybe you should buy a red bull? :wink:
You can request a catalog, and they have a sight-unseen guarantee if you talk with him a few days before the sale and tell him what you want.
The bull we got was a F0203 Rito and Papa Durabull. I like the old Rito breeding really well. Explosive growth, good females. We kept the Rito line in our cattle for a long time. We have gone to OCC bloodlines to cross and now are using some Wyebloodlines as well. But we aren't looking for "BIGGER IS BETTER" kind of cattle. We want form and function cattle.
The thing about Kit is he has cooperators and not all the cattle are from one breeder. There is usually something pretty interesting in the catalog though.
Someone told me mixing red cattle on black cattle (or vice-versa) is the hot thing to do now. A bull of that lineage brought $250,000 (or something like that) at a recent sale and that bull was black Angus/red Angus cross.
Maybe you should buy a red bull? :wink:
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Yes I got an idea, how bout a hereford bull to go along with the one you got. :lol:
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Yes I got an idea, how bout a hereford bull to go along with the one you got. :lol:
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Denny- You know anything about Sunny Slope Angus or the bull SS Objective- they're from your country...I was looking at him in the ABS catalog- appears as tho he maintains medium frame size-- according to ABS anyway :???: ...
The Ohlde bloodlines and 6807 are getting hot around here...I'm just getting the first calves out of the double 6807 bred bull I got last year and used on the heifers..
The Ohlde bloodlines and 6807 are getting hot around here...I'm just getting the first calves out of the double 6807 bred bull I got last year and used on the heifers..
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I'll second the Hereford Idea. Nice looking bull. Probably not too many Glory calves out there as he has been dead for a couple of years at least. He should sire easy fleshing good uddered females.
FWW: A friend of mine said the Glory bull was a good looking son of a gun.
FWW: A friend of mine said the Glory bull was a good looking son of a gun.
Faster horses
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I looked up the bull you mentioned, OT. Looks like he would work. I hadn't noticed him before.
I worry a bit about the 6807 having a bit of a fertility problem, though and Objective is a minus on scrotal.
6807 did so many things right, but you do have to watch the fertility
with those cattle and Ohlde cattle in general. It can be fine, but
you do need to watch and not stack the minuses.
I worry a bit about the 6807 having a bit of a fertility problem, though and Objective is a minus on scrotal.
6807 did so many things right, but you do have to watch the fertility
with those cattle and Ohlde cattle in general. It can be fine, but
you do need to watch and not stack the minuses.
When John O'Brian was here we spent the morning together talking cattle and looking at bulls. He was in the states looking for bulls that would work in Australia. He told me that the feet on the 6807's were a potential problem for them. At that time he was going to look at OBJECTIVE'S sire the T510 bull and suggested that I try him. I couldn't look past the HIGH SPADE in the pedigree. Always wondered why the T510 was pictured standing in foot high alfalfa.
Big Muddy rancher
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I was looking at a OCC Magnum bull but was wondering if anyone knows about a Hero 6267 of RR 2418. His bottom side is RR Scotch cap 9440 and Ebon hill Equalizer and Hollbrook Socialite. I have used the bottom side breeding before and have a fairly strong influence in my herd.
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It only makes sense to use bulls from both breeds, you have so many more options. Last year I bred all of my 878 heifers to Cherokee Canyon and all my Cherokee Canyon hefiers to 878. I don't know if it was the right thing to do, but I did it to get a set of close related calves.Faster horses said:
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Big Muddy rancher said:
I have seen some bulls from his daddy Hero 6267 which I liked...Funk Angus Ranch at Lustre had them last year but all the Heros were spoken for before I got there...Gary has a good herd of cows with a lot of Wye, Shoshone, OCC, and Diamond D bloodlines....I think 6267 has a more moderate frame and more middle of the road milk EPD than RR 2418- but not as impressive on the WW and YW....
Hinmans Image Maker is a son of Hero 6267 of RR 2418...My neighbor has about 40 of his calves on the ground out of his heifers-- look good now- little and long- average birthweight has been below 80 lbs-- hasn't pulled a calf except for a breech that had been dead for sometime...
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That sounds pretty good to have that many Hfrs calve and not pull any. I think I might try to run over and look at the Hero bull. The Magnum bull had a pic in the catalogue that just didn't catch my eye but no pic of the Hero bull. It's nice to be able to ask around and get opinions on bulls from other areas where they might have been used more.
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We have had 20 calves out of Magnitude and did pull one, BUT that calf doesn't look anything like the other calves. We are thinking there was a mistake perhaps when AIing. The tech broke his arm on a horse and his brother had to finish up for us, so there is a possiblity something got mixed up there...luckily it was only one.
A Wilson in SD owns the 2418 bull and I like the looks of him. They are long, but I think the cattle could carry more volume.
Glad to hear about the feet on the 6807's, RRoss. (Well, not glad exactly; I should say thanks for the warning or reminder). Seems like I heard that before. And Steve Lund bought a nice looking OCC bull called Klondike that he got rid of in a year because of his feet. I hate bad footed cattle...we went through that years ago with a Mr. Angus bull. Takes awhile to weed them out because you have kept heifers before the problem showed up.
I wouldn't touch Mr. Angus today for anything, but at one time he was "THE BULL." Live and learn.
A Wilson in SD owns the 2418 bull and I like the looks of him. They are long, but I think the cattle could carry more volume.
Glad to hear about the feet on the 6807's, RRoss. (Well, not glad exactly; I should say thanks for the warning or reminder). Seems like I heard that before. And Steve Lund bought a nice looking OCC bull called Klondike that he got rid of in a year because of his feet. I hate bad footed cattle...we went through that years ago with a Mr. Angus bull. Takes awhile to weed them out because you have kept heifers before the problem showed up.
I wouldn't touch Mr. Angus today for anything, but at one time he was "THE BULL." Live and learn.
Big Muddy rancher
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Well i went at looked at some bulls. To windy to do anything else. The Hero bull was framier then i thougth and not much volume.The one OCC Magnum bull is great and probably be the sale topper. Maybe to pricey 
. The other OCC Magnum bull is nice and out of a older cow but not quite the bull the other is.Their were 2 Sitz traveler bulls and one just made the sale on scrotal and the other didn't make the sale. One bull that was quite impressive was a Apex Stockman 061. Any thoughts? He was thick and deep .
You can veiw some of the bull at www.meritcattleco.com
Check out lots 70 and 86
. The other OCC Magnum bull is nice and out of a older cow but not quite the bull the other is.Their were 2 Sitz traveler bulls and one just made the sale on scrotal and the other didn't make the sale. One bull that was quite impressive was a Apex Stockman 061. Any thoughts? He was thick and deep .You can veiw some of the bull at www.meritcattleco.com
Check out lots 70 and 86
