nowhereroad1972
Member
The blog at www.swifthorses.com says the Texas Independent Cattlemen's Assocation disaffiliated with R-CALF.
Big Muddy rancher said:Wonder what Haymaker has to say about this. Bet his world is crumbling. :roll:
HAY MAKER said:Big Muddy rancher said:Wonder what Haymaker has to say about this. Bet his world is crumbling. :roll:
It is my humble opinion that the ICA is no more than a glorified insurance agency......................good luck
Hanta Yo said:Well, ICA did the BEST thing representing their producers by disaffiliating with R-CALF. What a mess. Funny thing, when one person has the courage to speak out, more join in. I have utmost respect for swift horses for having the courage to put up a website regarding R-CALF and their problems. The membership has every right to know where their money is going and where their national leadership is taking them. It seems to me for all these years, R-Calf used the "emotions" of their members to move forward. Sorry, emotions don't work as we are finding out with the implosion of R-CALF.
Hanta Yo said:Well, ICA did the BEST thing representing their producers by disaffiliating with R-CALF. What a mess. Funny thing, when one person has the courage to speak out, more join in. I have utmost respect for swift horses for having the courage to put up a website regarding R-CALF and their problems. The membership has every right to know where their money is going and where their national leadership is taking them. It seems to me for all these years, R-Calf used the "emotions" of their members to move forward. Sorry, emotions don't work as we are finding out with the implosion of R-CALF.
Sandhusker said:Hanta Yo said:Well, ICA did the BEST thing representing their producers by disaffiliating with R-CALF. What a mess. Funny thing, when one person has the courage to speak out, more join in. I have utmost respect for swift horses for having the courage to put up a website regarding R-CALF and their problems. The membership has every right to know where their money is going and where their national leadership is taking them. It seems to me for all these years, R-Calf used the "emotions" of their members to move forward. Sorry, emotions don't work as we are finding out with the implosion of R-CALF.
Membership should know where leadership is taking them since the current leadership is doing exactly what the last mail-in ballot told them to do.
I don't have much respect for somebody who hides behind a pen name - unless they were truly being threatened. If what they are saying is the truth, why not stand behind it? What's the problem? What are they afraid of?
Big Muddy rancher said:Sandhusker said:Hanta Yo said:Well, ICA did the BEST thing representing their producers by disaffiliating with R-CALF. What a mess. Funny thing, when one person has the courage to speak out, more join in. I have utmost respect for swift horses for having the courage to put up a website regarding R-CALF and their problems. The membership has every right to know where their money is going and where their national leadership is taking them. It seems to me for all these years, R-Calf used the "emotions" of their members to move forward. Sorry, emotions don't work as we are finding out with the implosion of R-CALF.
Membership should know where leadership is taking them since the current leadership is doing exactly what the last mail-in ballot told them to do.
I don't have much respect for somebody who hides behind a pen name - unless they were truly being threatened. If what they are saying is the truth, why not stand behind it? What's the problem? What are they afraid of?
You mean like Econ?
jojo said:Sandhusker,
Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but you seem to be implying that the things being stated on swifthorses.com is not true. How can you say that when they are providing the documents that back up what they are saying.
Tam said:ocm when are you ever going to bring something that backs what you hint you know? If what is on Swift horses is false bring something to prove it. Time to come clean, if you really have something, who ever you are!!!!! :roll:
ocm said:jojo said:Sandhusker,
Maybe I am reading your post wrong, but you seem to be implying that the things being stated on swifthorses.com is not true. How can you say that when they are providing the documents that back up what they are saying.
There are DEFINITELY some things on there that are not true. But what is most condemning is a lot of things that are left out.
You know that old thing about the truth, the whole truth. Well, there may be a few truthful tidbits in it, but it is VERY far from the WHOLE truth.
The IC of Texas letter of disaffiliation got some things wrong, too. The board has not moved toward lawsuits. The BSE/Canadian border lawsuit is consistent with membership passed policy. That policy is at least a year old. There are no lawsuits on COOL, animal ID, captive supply, property rights or the other stuff they're working on.
There are, after all, three branches of government. Why not address them all?
ocm said:Tam said:ocm when are you ever going to bring something that backs what you hint you know? If what is on Swift horses is false bring something to prove it. Time to come clean, if you really have something, who ever you are!!!!! :roll:
I don't think most of the details are anybody's business except R-CALF members. And I am sharing information with those members who are interested.