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Sandhusker said:
~SH~ said:
Sandman,

You said I lied. Either back that allegation with supporting proof or admit that you lied about me lying.

You accused me of lying, now either back that allegation or show everyone what a worthless parasite you really are by continuing to divert. The burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused.

You were the one that said around Cody, NE if someone calls someone else a liar they better be able to back it. You didn't! That just shows what a hypocrite you really are.

Now back your allegation or admit that you can't!


~SH~

SH, maybe I owe you an apology. I said that you were lying. Now that I sit back and evaluate who I'm dealing with, I realize you have time and time again exhibited the ability to ignore facts, reason, and common sense to believe what you want to believe. I'm sure that, in your world, your statement was correct. I will now move to strike the words "lie" and "lair", and insert the words "hopelessly and completely full of crap". Do you feel better now that this unforgivable challenge to your honor has been revoked? Can you get on with your life?

SH, I apologize from the bottom of my deceptive parasitic clone heart. You are not a liar and did not lie. You simply lack the ability to discern the real world from your private "reality".

NOW, CAN WE MOVE ON?

Sandhusker, what part do "reason" and "common sense" have in your argument?

Facts are facts.

They may or may not be "reason"able to you nor anyone else, but they remain facts.

They may or may not make "common sense" to you nor to anyone else, but they remain facts!

What someone in the know told SH about the finances in question does NOT become non-factual simply because you do not believe it and choose not to verify or prove it false.

If that is a publicly held company with published financial information, that information is no less factual because some choose to believe that they have fake books!

Should you disagree with what I posted, please be so kind as to state your "reason"s with facts to validate them.

Really, aren't "reason" and "common sense" simply points of view unless the "facts" to prove them are shown?

MRJ
 
MRJ said:
Sandhusker said:
~SH~ said:
Sandman,

You said I lied. Either back that allegation with supporting proof or admit that you lied about me lying.

You accused me of lying, now either back that allegation or show everyone what a worthless parasite you really are by continuing to divert. The burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused.

You were the one that said around Cody, NE if someone calls someone else a liar they better be able to back it. You didn't! That just shows what a hypocrite you really are.

Now back your allegation or admit that you can't!





~SH~

SH, maybe I owe you an apology. I said that you were lying. Now that I sit back and evaluate who I'm dealing with, I realize you have time and time again exhibited the ability to ignore facts, reason, and common sense to believe what you want to believe. I'm sure that, in your world, your statement was correct. I will now move to strike the words "lie" and "lair", and insert the words "hopelessly and completely full of crap". Do you feel better now that this unforgivable challenge to your honor has been revoked? Can you get on with your life?

SH, I apologize from the bottom of my deceptive parasitic clone heart. You are not a liar and did not lie. You simply lack the ability to discern the real world from your private "reality".

NOW, CAN WE MOVE ON?

Sandhusker, what part do "reason" and "common sense" have in your argument?

Facts are facts.

They may or may not be "reason"able to you nor anyone else, but they remain facts.

They may or may not make "common sense" to you nor to anyone else, but they remain facts!

What someone in the know told SH about the finances in question does NOT become non-factual simply because you do not believe it and choose not to verify or prove it false.

If that is a publicly held company with published financial information, that information is no less factual because some choose to believe that they have fake books!

Should you disagree with what I posted, please be so kind as to state your "reason"s with facts to validate them.

Really, aren't "reason" and "common sense" simply points of view unless the "facts" to prove them are shown?

MRJ


But we haven't seen an facts from SH, like financial sheets, just what he has copied and pasted and we know how you feel about the reporters mis-representing a story, at least if it is against NCBA.
 
MRJ said:
Sandhusker said:
~SH~ said:
Sandman,

You said I lied. Either back that allegation with supporting proof or admit that you lied about me lying.

You accused me of lying, now either back that allegation or show everyone what a worthless parasite you really are by continuing to divert. The burden of proof falls on the accuser, not the accused.

You were the one that said around Cody, NE if someone calls someone else a liar they better be able to back it. You didn't! That just shows what a hypocrite you really are.

Now back your allegation or admit that you can't!


~SH~

SH, maybe I owe you an apology. I said that you were lying. Now that I sit back and evaluate who I'm dealing with, I realize you have time and time again exhibited the ability to ignore facts, reason, and common sense to believe what you want to believe. I'm sure that, in your world, your statement was correct. I will now move to strike the words "lie" and "lair", and insert the words "hopelessly and completely full of crap". Do you feel better now that this unforgivable challenge to your honor has been revoked? Can you get on with your life?

SH, I apologize from the bottom of my deceptive parasitic clone heart. You are not a liar and did not lie. You simply lack the ability to discern the real world from your private "reality".

NOW, CAN WE MOVE ON?

Sandhusker, what part do "reason" and "common sense" have in your argument?

Facts are facts.

They may or may not be "reason"able to you nor anyone else, but they remain facts.

They may or may not make "common sense" to you nor to anyone else, but they remain facts!

What someone in the know told SH about the finances in question does NOT become non-factual simply because you do not believe it and choose not to verify or prove it false.

If that is a publicly held company with published financial information, that information is no less factual because some choose to believe that they have fake books!

Should you disagree with what I posted, please be so kind as to state your "reason"s with facts to validate them.

Really, aren't "reason" and "common sense" simply points of view unless the "facts" to prove them are shown?

MRJ

Yes, MRJ, facts are facts. I'll give you the same challenge I gave Jason, point out to me the facts SH provided. Show me where he provided a dollar figure for ANY of the three plants of ANY time frame.
 
It's really quite simple Sandman,

I said Pasco and Boise lost more money while the Canadian border was closed than Lakeside made. You claimed I lied. You claimed I was "factually void". You said when someone around Cody, NE calls someone a liar they better be able to back it. You do not live by the rules you apply to others. Instead, you maintain your pathetic parasite ways by challenging others to prove that they didn't lie. The burden of proof was always on you to prove that I lied. You brought nothing nor did you refute anything that I brought. You challenge others to determine the weaknesses in their arguments when you can't find the strength in your own arguments.

You said I lied but you offered nothing to back it. Typical of the pathetic individual you are.

I went so far as to back my position with the fact that Boise and Pasco were running at 1/3 of normal capacity during that time period. Tyson's financial statements showed that Lakeside's profits dwindled to virtually nothing at the beginning of Calendar year 2005. A call to the Tyson office confirmed what I had stated.

You can't refute anything I brought nor can you back your position that I lied. You are nothing more than a worthless parasite that accuses others of lying than expects them to prove that they didn't lie.



~SH~
 
rancher said:
MRJ said:
Sandhusker said:
SH, maybe I owe you an apology. I said that you were lying. Now that I sit back and evaluate who I'm dealing with, I realize you have time and time again exhibited the ability to ignore facts, reason, and common sense to believe what you want to believe. I'm sure that, in your world, your statement was correct. I will now move to strike the words "lie" and "lair", and insert the words "hopelessly and completely full of crap". Do you feel better now that this unforgivable challenge to your honor has been revoked? Can you get on with your life?

SH, I apologize from the bottom of my deceptive parasitic clone heart. You are not a liar and did not lie. You simply lack the ability to discern the real world from your private "reality".

NOW, CAN WE MOVE ON?

Sandhusker, what part do "reason" and "common sense" have in your argument?

Facts are facts.

They may or may not be "reason"able to you nor anyone else, but they remain facts.

They may or may not make "common sense" to you nor to anyone else, but they remain facts!

What someone in the know told SH about the finances in question does NOT become non-factual simply because you do not believe it and choose not to verify or prove it false.

If that is a publicly held company with published financial information, that information is no less factual because some choose to believe that they have fake books!

Should you disagree with what I posted, please be so kind as to state your "reason"s with facts to validate them.

Really, aren't "reason" and "common sense" simply points of view unless the "facts" to prove them are shown?

MRJ


But we haven't seen an facts from SH, like financial sheets, just what he has copied and pasted and we know how you feel about the reporters mis-representing a story, at least if it is against NCBA.

Actually, I believe I have defended the right to quote another person, IF one admits to quoting, unlike some who post a cut and paste job with NO attempt at identifying where/whom the story came from.

Would you believe the FACTS if SH had posted a "financial sheet" for you" I do believe when such information has been offered in the past by someone, some naysayers claimed the books could have been cooked in some way to make it appear what it was not. That sort of thing makes people wary of going to the effort to look up information and post it here.

SH did state his information came from a specific source by phone conversation and indicated how others could access that same source for verification.

MRJ
 
The burden of proof is on Sandman to prove that I lied. He won't. He'll keep ducking and dodging and slithering and sliming because that's the kind of pathetic parasite he is. He wants others to do the reasearch for him. That's why he called me a liar. He couldn't back that allegation if his life depended on it. He relies on the integrity of others to admit when they prove themselves wrong.


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
The burden of proof is on Sandman to prove that I lied. He won't. He'll keep ducking and dodging and slithering and sliming because that's the kind of pathetic parasite he is. He wants others to do the reasearch for him. That's why he called me a liar. He couldn't back that allegation if his life depended on it. He relies on the integrity of others to admit when they prove themselves wrong.


~SH~

I definitely agree that the burden of proof is on the accuser. Just wanted to point out why it can be a waste of time to do the research and post it here when some will find ways to tear it apart and will choose not to believe it if it doesn't fit their mind-set on the subject.

MRJ
 
MRJ said:
~SH~ said:
The burden of proof is on Sandman to prove that I lied. He won't. He'll keep ducking and dodging and slithering and sliming because that's the kind of pathetic parasite he is. He wants others to do the reasearch for him. That's why he called me a liar. He couldn't back that allegation if his life depended on it. He relies on the integrity of others to admit when they prove themselves wrong.


~SH~

I definitely agree that the burden of proof is on the accuser. Just wanted to point out why it can be a waste of time to do the research and post it here when some will find ways to tear it apart and will choose not to believe it if it doesn't fit their mind-set on the subject.

MRJ

And if you don't fit SH's mindset he calls you names. Remember, you can't trap him because he can only trap himself. Ready for the deal SH or will that ruin your mo?
 
~SH~ said:
The burden of proof is on Sandman to prove that I lied. He won't. He'll keep ducking and dodging and slithering and sliming because that's the kind of pathetic parasite he is. He wants others to do the reasearch for him. That's why he called me a liar. He couldn't back that allegation if his life depended on it. He relies on the integrity of others to admit when they prove themselves wrong.


~SH~

I said I was sorry, SH. I said you are not a liar. Do you want my first born as retribution?
 
Sandhusker said:
~SH~ said:
The burden of proof is on Sandman to prove that I lied. He won't. He'll keep ducking and dodging and slithering and sliming because that's the kind of pathetic parasite he is. He wants others to do the reasearch for him. That's why he called me a liar. He couldn't back that allegation if his life depended on it. He relies on the integrity of others to admit when they prove themselves wrong.


~SH~

I said I was sorry, SH. I said you are not a liar. Do you want my first born as retribution?

You said he LIED and now you say he is not a liar. What made you change your mind? :shock: Did you look up the information in hopes of proving him wrong and saw for yourself he wasn't? :? I think if you are now saying SH isn't a liar then he was telling the truth and you owe him more than an apology. :nod: I would say $100 should cover the damage to his reputation. :wink:
 
Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
~SH~ said:
The burden of proof is on Sandman to prove that I lied. He won't. He'll keep ducking and dodging and slithering and sliming because that's the kind of pathetic parasite he is. He wants others to do the reasearch for him. That's why he called me a liar. He couldn't back that allegation if his life depended on it. He relies on the integrity of others to admit when they prove themselves wrong.


~SH~

I said I was sorry, SH. I said you are not a liar. Do you want my first born as retribution?

You said he LIED and now you say he is not a liar. What made you change your mind? :shock: Did you look up the information in hopes of proving him wrong and saw for yourself he wasn't? :? I think if you are now saying SH isn't a liar then he was telling the truth and you owe him more than an apology. :nod: I would say $100 should cover the damage to his reputation. :wink:

Sandhusker could have said "the truth is not in you" and there would be a lot of people that would totally agree with that statement.

We are not in a court of law and we do not have 12 non-interested people looking at evidence presented on both sides. There will be no "proof" offered for what people say in these posts unless it comes as a real "dare" or "bet". Nobody needs to prove anything on this forum if the don't want to; they need to say what they think and why they think it. They might post where they got the basis of an opinion if they want to. People can disagree. No one should call other people names if they don't agree with them.

Please stop this little incessant game SH has made up. No body will ever prove anything to SH and they don't have to. SH is not a judge and his thoughts are just an opinion. He is not always right because someone does not go to the effort of providing "facts to the contrary". It is just his game. I know I am rather tired of it.
 
Tam, "You said he LIED and now you say he is not a liar. What made you change your mind? Did you look up the information in hopes of proving him wrong and saw for yourself he wasn't? I think if you are now saying SH isn't a liar then he was telling the truth and you owe him more than an apology. I would say $100 should cover the damage to his reputation."

The damage to his reputation? :shock: :? :D :lol: :lol: That's about as funny as him trapping himself. Good grief, Tam, I know you don't like me because I am a R-CALF member, but you couldn't pick a better fight than siding with SH?

I'm just trying to get him to shut up - like telling a pain-in-the-ash kid what they want to hear so they'll get off your back. Is he a liar or not? I have no idea and don't really care. That would depend of if he actually beleives the crap he spews. I used to think he just felt the need to be contrary due to some sort of inferiority complex, now I question his sanity. How could a sane grown man act the way he does? If he actually believes half the nonsense he's presented, then he's simply a fool. If he is just being contrary, then he is a liar.

My issue was that he was full of crap and could not possibly back his statement. His $100 in R-CALF's treasury proves me right. He bet me he could prove his point and could not. He was either lying or simply blowing hot air - you tell me. His year 2004 whine is is just that - a whine. If he knew enough about the topic to make the statement in the first place, and then to even propose a bet, don't you think he should be able to provide a shred of proof? After all, what led him to make the statement and the bold bet proposal? He had nothing. I ask you again, was he lying or simply full of it. Either way, why to you choose this side?

I'm tired of this topic and I'm tired of him. Damage to his reputation... :roll:
 
Sandhusker He was telling the truth to his original statement it was you that changed the time table. I have looked up the information for myself unlike you or Randy and I have read where in Tysons fiscal report it said the losses from the US plants were only partically covered by the Lakeside plant. Partically means not totally so that also means Tyson lost more in the US than the Canadian plant made. The reason Tyson didn't make the kind of money Randy has an OPINION they did was he may have forgot to take into consideration the fact the the SRM's that were once and INCOME were now an EXPENSE. And according to a report that I already posted the devalue in the meat that once was shipped to the Asian markets that we are now render and sell to cheaper markets equaled $192 per head. Now if you want to call me a liar too PROVE IT.
 
Tam said:
Sandhusker He was telling the truth to his original statement it was you that changed the time table. I have looked up the information for myself unlike you or Randy and I have read where in Tysons fiscal report it said the losses from the US plants were only partically covered by the Lakeside plant. Partically means not totally so that also means Tyson lost more in the US than the Canadian plant made. The reason Tyson didn't make the kind of money Randy has an OPINION they did was he may have forgot to take into consideration the fact the the SRM's that were once and INCOME were now an EXPENSE. And according to a report that I already posted the devalue in the meat that once was shipped to the Asian markets that we are now render and sell to cheaper markets equaled $192 per head. Now if you want to call me a liar too PROVE IT.

Tam, those US losses in the report were for ALL of Tyson's plants, not just the two SH was talking about. I don't understand why this is so hard to figure out.
 
Kindergarten: "Sandhusker could have said "the truth is not in you" and there would be a lot of people that would totally agree with that statement."

Of course they would totally agree with that statement because the facts are not what blamers want to hear. They don't want to know the truth, they want to blame. Their minds are already made up. Facts and truth mean nothing to a blamer when it doesn't support what they want to believe.

The above statement is typical of the garbage that you spew. You haven't corrected me on a single thing I have stated yet. To the contrary, I have corrected your empty statements repeatedly. To save face you feel no option but to make your feeble attempts to discredit me with this type of statement.

Anyone who is open minded and has waded through your empty posts can see that you have nothing to back your position.

You support R-CULT and R-CULT gets their head handed to them every time they enter a court room yet their faithful lemmings continue to blindly follow them because R-CULT tells blamers what they want to hear.


Kindergarten: "Nobody needs to prove anything on this forum if the don't want to; they need to say what they think and why they think it. They might post where they got the basis of an opinion if they want to."

TRANSLATION: DON'T ASK ME TO BACK MY POSITION WHEN I CAN'T!

That's right Kindergarten, as long as you stay in your safety zone of never having to back your position with supporting facts, you can continue to believe that your baseless opinions actually have merit.

Once you get in a courtroom, your theories will get dismantled just like the blaming organization you support.

Judge Strom and the 11th circuit court's decision doesn't fit your anti corporate packer blaming agenda so of course you wouldn't support it.


Sandman: "I'm just trying to get him to shut up - like telling a pain-in-the-ash kid what they want to hear so they'll get off your back. Is he a liar or not? I have no idea and don't really care. That would depend of if he actually beleives the crap he spews. I used to think he just felt the need to be contrary due to some sort of inferiority complex, now I question his sanity. How could a sane grown man act the way he does? If he actually believes half the nonsense he's presented, then he's simply a fool. If he is just being contrary, then he is a liar."

Hahaha! Listen to the little parasite.

Has anyone seen where Sandhusker has ever taken a statement I have made and provided facts to the contrary to prove me wrong? NEITHER HAVE I because it never happens. All he can offer is this type of typical little ankle biting statement to discredit what he doesn't want to believe.

Sandman contributed nothing to the $100 bet beyond his baseless allegation that I lied so I would have to prove that I didn't lie. First he says I lied, then he makes an empty half assed apology for saying I lied, then he says I am factually void and wrong , now he says he doesn't know whether I lied or not. HAHAHAHA! God only knows what diversion he will come up with next. He creates the illusion that the $100 means he's right yet apologizes for saying I lied.

Sandman is nothing more than a parasite that gets others to do his work for him by challenging them. He accuses others of lying and making stuff up then turns around and says Creekstone doesn't buy any of their cattle in the cash market. When proven wrong, "Well, I guess you got me there". Sandman is a complete phony. His only purpose here is to determine the weaknesses in someone else's position so he can create the illusion of having strength in what he wants to believe.

Sandman has never proven me wrong on anything ever. NOT ONCE! He just challenges what he doesn't want to believe than creates an illusion that they are wrong. HE NEVER BACKS NOTHING OR PROVES NOTHING. Facts mean nothing to him. That's why he supports the blamer's organization. All he has is empty discrediting rhetoric supported by nothing.


Sandman: "My issue was that he was full of crap and could not possibly back his statement."

When Agman said that I was wrong within calendar year 2004, you thanked him for his honesty. Agman also stated that his data showed that I was right with my original statement that you called a lie. Agman's data backs up what I presented and it backs what the Tyson representative told me. So which way is it Sandman? Is Agman honest or not? I suppose his honesty only goes as far as calendar year 2004 huh? Imagine that!

All it would take is a phone call to Tyson to confirm what I stated but you would rather create the "ILLUSION" of being right because you are empty to support your view.


Sandman: "His $100 in R-CALF's treasury proves me right."

Bullsh*t!

My $100 proves that I was wrong within calendar year 2004 ONLY. You proved me wrong on nothing regarding my original statement. You contributed nothing to the bet. You relied on my research and my honesty to prove myself wrong on calendar year 2004. You've already agreed that I was right with my original statement when you thanked Agman for his honesty but now you change your story again to save face. You are so pathetic.


Sandman: "He was either lying or simply blowing hot air - you tell me."

All it would take is a phone call but you don't want to know the truth so you can go on believing that you were right.


Sandman: "His year 2004 whine is is just that - a whine. If he knew enough about the topic to make the statement in the first place, and then to even propose a bet, don't you think he should be able to provide a shred of proof? After all, what led him to make the statement and the bold bet proposal? He had nothing. I ask you again, was he lying or simply full of it. Either way, why to you choose this side?"

You didn't prove a damn thing Sandman. You didn't have anything to back your position EVER. You bet that I couldn't back my position and when I did, you couldn't accept it.

2004 whine?? If the bet was not for calendar year 2004 just say so and I'll be on my way to Cody to get my $100 back.

You were betting that I couldn't provide the proof. When I did you wouldn't accept it. All it would take was a phone call to confirm either way but being the deceptive pathetic individual you are, you'd rather create the "ILLUSION" of being right than find out the truth. Par for you pathetic ways.


Sandman: "I'm tired of this topic and I'm tired of him."

Of course you are because you have a guilty conscience for accusing me of lying just to get me to do your homework for you then taking $100 for a bet you contributed nothing to which was based on my mistake for agreeing to calendar year 2004 instead of the entire period of time that the border was closed, WHICH YOU ADMITTED LATER WAS WHAT THE BET WAS BASED ON. I should have sunk my teeth into that statement and kept my $100 but I have a lot more integrity than a parasite like you.

If calendar year 2004 is just "a whine" and not the basis for the bet, just say so and we will end this.


~SH~
 
Sh, "Sandman has never proven me wrong on anything ever. NOT ONCE!"

There's a very good reason for that, my fine dilusional friend;
Exhibit A) SH, "You didn't prove me wrong, I proved myself wrong".
Exhibit B) SH, "Sandman didn't trap me, I trapped myself".

See, SH, you're just a glory hog! While I appreciate the help in debunking your statements, I assure you, it isn't needed.

You're still bLaming me for year 2004 THAT YOU AGREED ON? SHEESH, WHAT A BWAMER. Fine, forget 2004, lets get back to your original statement concerning the entire time the border was closed to Tyson and Cargill if you think you have a case. Prove it. I know dang well you can't do it - you would of long ago if you could of. Quit whining, blaming and name calling and man up. Prove your original statement OR SHUT THE HECK UP.
 
~SH~ said:
Kindergarten: "Sandhusker could have said "the truth is not in you" and there would be a lot of people that would totally agree with that statement."

Of course they would totally agree with that statement because the facts are not what blamers want to hear. They don't want to know the truth, they want to blame. Their minds are already made up. Facts and truth mean nothing to a blamer when it doesn't support what they want to believe.

The above statement is typical of the garbage that you spew. You haven't corrected me on a single thing I have stated yet. To the contrary, I have corrected your empty statements repeatedly. To save face you feel no option but to make your feeble attempts to discredit me with this type of statement.

Anyone who is open minded and has waded through your empty posts can see that you have nothing to back your position.

You support R-CULT and R-CULT gets their head handed to them every time they enter a court room yet their faithful lemmings continue to blindly follow them because R-CULT tells blamers what they want to hear.


Kindergarten: "Nobody needs to prove anything on this forum if the don't want to; they need to say what they think and why they think it. They might post where they got the basis of an opinion if they want to."

TRANSLATION: DON'T ASK ME TO BACK MY POSITION WHEN I CAN'T!

That's right Kindergarten, as long as you stay in your safety zone of never having to back your position with supporting facts, you can continue to believe that your baseless opinions actually have merit.

Once you get in a courtroom, your theories will get dismantled just like the blaming organization you support.

Judge Strom and the 11th circuit court's decision doesn't fit your anti corporate packer blaming agenda so of course you wouldn't support it.


Sandman: "I'm just trying to get him to shut up - like telling a pain-in-the-ash kid what they want to hear so they'll get off your back. Is he a liar or not? I have no idea and don't really care. That would depend of if he actually beleives the crap he spews. I used to think he just felt the need to be contrary due to some sort of inferiority complex, now I question his sanity. How could a sane grown man act the way he does? If he actually believes half the nonsense he's presented, then he's simply a fool. If he is just being contrary, then he is a liar."

Hahaha! Listen to the little parasite.

Has anyone seen where Sandhusker has ever taken a statement I have made and provided facts to the contrary to prove me wrong? NEITHER HAVE I because it never happens. All he can offer is this type of typical little ankle biting statement to discredit what he doesn't want to believe.

Sandman contributed nothing to the $100 bet beyond his baseless allegation that I lied so I would have to prove that I didn't lie. First he says I lied, then he makes an empty half assed apology for saying I lied, then he says I am factually void and wrong , now he says he doesn't know whether I lied or not. HAHAHAHA! God only knows what diversion he will come up with next. He creates the illusion that the $100 means he's right yet apologizes for saying I lied.

Sandman is nothing more than a parasite that gets others to do his work for him by challenging them. He accuses others of lying and making stuff up then turns around and says Creekstone doesn't buy any of their cattle in the cash market. When proven wrong, "Well, I guess you got me there". Sandman is a complete phony. His only purpose here is to determine the weaknesses in someone else's position so he can create the illusion of having strength in what he wants to believe.

Sandman has never proven me wrong on anything ever. NOT ONCE! He just challenges what he doesn't want to believe than creates an illusion that they are wrong. HE NEVER BACKS NOTHING OR PROVES NOTHING. Facts mean nothing to him. That's why he supports the blamer's organization. All he has is empty discrediting rhetoric supported by nothing.


Sandman: "My issue was that he was full of crap and could not possibly back his statement."

When Agman said that I was wrong within calendar year 2004, you thanked him for his honesty. Agman also stated that his data showed that I was right with my original statement that you called a lie. Agman's data backs up what I presented and it backs what the Tyson representative told me. So which way is it Sandman? Is Agman honest or not? I suppose his honesty only goes as far as calendar year 2004 huh? Imagine that!

All it would take is a phone call to Tyson to confirm what I stated but you would rather create the "ILLUSION" of being right because you are empty to support your view.


Sandman: "His $100 in R-CALF's treasury proves me right."

Bullsh*t!

My $100 proves that I was wrong within calendar year 2004 ONLY. You proved me wrong on nothing regarding my original statement. You contributed nothing to the bet. You relied on my research and my honesty to prove myself wrong on calendar year 2004. You've already agreed that I was right with my original statement when you thanked Agman for his honesty but now you change your story again to save face. You are so pathetic.


Sandman: "He was either lying or simply blowing hot air - you tell me."

All it would take is a phone call but you don't want to know the truth so you can go on believing that you were right.


Sandman: "His year 2004 whine is is just that - a whine. If he knew enough about the topic to make the statement in the first place, and then to even propose a bet, don't you think he should be able to provide a shred of proof? After all, what led him to make the statement and the bold bet proposal? He had nothing. I ask you again, was he lying or simply full of it. Either way, why to you choose this side?"

You didn't prove a damn thing Sandman. You didn't have anything to back your position EVER. You bet that I couldn't back my position and when I did, you couldn't accept it.

2004 whine?? If the bet was not for calendar year 2004 just say so and I'll be on my way to Cody to get my $100 back.

You were betting that I couldn't provide the proof. When I did you wouldn't accept it. All it would take was a phone call to confirm either way but being the deceptive pathetic individual you are, you'd rather create the "ILLUSION" of being right than find out the truth. Par for you pathetic ways.


Sandman: "I'm tired of this topic and I'm tired of him."

Of course you are because you have a guilty conscience for accusing me of lying just to get me to do your homework for you then taking $100 for a bet you contributed nothing to which was based on my mistake for agreeing to calendar year 2004 instead of the entire period of time that the border was closed, WHICH YOU ADMITTED LATER WAS WHAT THE BET WAS BASED ON. I should have sunk my teeth into that statement and kept my $100 but I have a lot more integrity than a parasite like you.

If calendar year 2004 is just "a whine" and not the basis for the bet, just say so and we will end this.


~SH~

Name calling in this post by SH in order:

Kindergarten:
blamers
a blamer
R-CULT
R-CULT
faithful lemmings
R-CULT
blamers
Kindergarten:
TRANSLATION: DON'T ASK ME TO BACK MY POSITION WHEN I CAN'T! (You will never be able to translate for me)
Kindergarten
your baseless opinions
blaming organization
anti corporate packer blaming agenda
little parasite.
typical little ankle biting statement
baseless allegation
empty half assed apology
HAHAHAHA!(even SH has to laugh)
a parasite
HE NEVER BACKS NOTHING OR PROVES NOTHING
blamer's organization
empty discrediting rhetoric
Bullsh*t!
You are so pathetic.
being the deceptive pathetic individual you are,
you[r] pathetic ways.
I have a lot more integrity than a parasite like you.


I left out a lot of "Sandman"s. SH, do you go to church? Do you want the deal yet? Do you want to add "ankle biter" as a description for me?
 

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