NR, my cousins who I buy my commercial bulls from used him a year or two. I bought one of his sons about 5 years ago. My cousin said and I quote, "Maybe the most impressive Angus bulls I''ve ever seen." This is from a cowman with a very critical and good eye for cattle. His son was quite a looker. Deep, thick, lots of capacity and not much frame. I always thought they might use him again but I'm not sure if they ever did. I'll have to ask him. They use a bull once and if his daughters don't pan out they keep looking. Maybe that was the problem? Maybe I can get him to post and get his insight.