Jason
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conman said:Johannes, and Veneman have both shown that they can't run GIPSA, M-COOL, BSE, or any of the other programs that the USDA has responsibility over.
Now BSE is a program USDA has responsibility over? :lol:
conman said:Johannes, and Veneman have both shown that they can't run GIPSA, M-COOL, BSE, or any of the other programs that the USDA has responsibility over.
Sandhusker said:Tommy said:Mike...You can keep the name calling to yourself, also.
Wishfull thinking Mike!!
I've got a funny for you guys; When I get on here, my daughter knows I'm "fighting with SH". The other night, I was reading some of his elequent, informative, non-biased and truth-based prose and my wife came and looked over my shoulder and read it also. She said, "Is this the SH you fight with all the time? He's just a kid!" I said, "Just a kid"? She said, "You can't figure that out by the way he writes? Leave the kid alone and quit picking on him. Pick on somebody your own age, you bully!" I tried to explain to her that SH was about the same age as me, and I couldn't convince her! :lol:
I guess when you think of it, age only means a lot for legal purposes. Generally, it's supposed to reflect a level of maturity. So, I guess in a very big way, SH is still a kid! :lol: :lol:
MRJ said:Mike said:I do recall the people at that lab in England saying (paraphrasing) that sample of the infamous cow was of very low infectivity and very difficult to diagnose which was no reflection on the procedures used and conclusions drawn in the USA tests.
I'd like to see the evidence of the truth in this. Please.
FACE IT MRJ! The USDA is a screwed up mess. Until you get somebody like Phyllis Fong breathing down their neck they ain't ever gonna tell the damn truth!
They've made mistake, after mistake, after mistake. We're damn lucky that demand is where it is now!!!
JEEEEEEEEEEZ And you are here trying to defend them????????
Mike, you obviously choose to believe the worst of USDA. I do not. I do believe many of the problems could be a natural result of bureaucracy, and entrenched bureaucrats within the system protecting "their" turf. It takes time to clean house. Johanns has had a year. He is changinging things. If you do not give any credit for the level of demand for beef to the checkoff, you are not paying attention to what OUR checkoff is doing.
The statement I made about the person in England re. the BSE test is something I very clearly recall reading at the time. I do not have the quote, and am not going to look it up. You can believe it or not, as you choose. If I did look it up and present it, I have no illusions but that you would doubt the source. Call it my opinion if you choose. I know what I read, and you are free to believe what you choose.
MRJ
Tam said:Sandhusker said:Tommy said:Mike...You can keep the name calling to yourself, also.
Wishfull thinking Mike!!
I've got a funny for you guys; When I get on here, my daughter knows I'm "fighting with SH". The other night, I was reading some of his elequent, informative, non-biased and truth-based prose and my wife came and looked over my shoulder and read it also. She said, "Is this the SH you fight with all the time? He's just a kid!" I said, "Just a kid"? She said, "You can't figure that out by the way he writes? Leave the kid alone and quit picking on him. Pick on somebody your own age, you bully!" I tried to explain to her that SH was about the same age as me, and I couldn't convince her! :lol:
I guess when you think of it, age only means a lot for legal purposes. Generally, it's supposed to reflect a level of maturity. So, I guess in a very big way, SH is still a kid! :lol: :lol:
Like I told MsSage all R-CALFers are, are little boys wanting attention This Post just proves my point Mike Tommy and Sandhusker talking about name calling and behavior when we all know if you didn't provoke it you wouldn't get it. I would suggest to you Sandhusker that your wife look over your shoulder and just see who is provoking the fighting. Your wife is right in one thing you are a bully because bullies pick a target and then pull all their buddies together and tease and taunt until the target can't take it anymore and all hell breaks loose. Kind of like what you are doing now Sandhusker with this post. Why don't you call your wife to the computer and let her read what you Posted. Then we'll see what little boy gets grounded from the computer for a week. There is only one thing worse than a school yard bully and that is a grown man that acts like a school yard bully.
~SH~ said:There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run.
ocm said:~SH~ said:There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run.
What is your home planet?
ocm said:~SH~ said:There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run.
What is your home planet?
OCM: "What is your home planet?"
Sandbag: "He's just making a statement trying to restore his credibility."
~SH~ said:Sandbag: "He's just making a statement trying to restore his credibility."
Coming from the hypocrite that thanks Agman for his honesty when Agman's data supports his bias and demands proof of the same data when it doesn't. Hahaha!
YOU BETCHA CODY, lecture us on credibility.
The opinions of your packer blaming support group are irrelevant in the big picture.
~SH~
Sandbag: "When are you going to give it a rest?"
Sandbag: "Nobody outside of your immediate circle of supporters believes you, and we're all getting tired of hearing you cry about it."
Sandbag: "You're not interested in facts, SH. You're interested in your opinion and presenting that as a fact. The last thing we tangled on is a prime example. You call Mike Callicrate a purjuror. The fact that I presented is that he has not been convicted of purjury. That fact didn't matter to you because your opinion is that he lied. You point to a judge's comments - the fact that the judge said they were untrue. Your opinion is that "untrue" means "lie", which is rediculous and a standard you only apply to Mike, but not to your cronies. This is just one examle of many I could bring forward."
Sandhusker said:Who, other than you, is claiming he lied?
Has anybody proved he lied?
~SH~ said:There is nothing wrong with how GIPSA is being run.
Sandhusker said:You're not interested in facts, SH. You're interested in your opinion and presenting that as a fact. The last thing we tangled on is a prime example. You call Mike Callicrate a purjuror. The fact that I presented is that he has not been convicted of purjury. That fact didn't matter to you because your opinion is that he lied. You point to a judge's comments - the fact that the judge said they were untrue. Your opinion is that "untrue" means "lie", which is rediculous and a standard you only apply to Mike, but not to your cronies. This is just one examle of many I could bring forward.
Don't give us that BS about me not presenting facts to contradict your opinions. You are obviously "attempting to mislead". :roll:
agman said:Sandhusker said:You're not interested in facts, SH. You're interested in your opinion and presenting that as a fact. The last thing we tangled on is a prime example. You call Mike Callicrate a purjuror. The fact that I presented is that he has not been convicted of purjury. That fact didn't matter to you because your opinion is that he lied. You point to a judge's comments - the fact that the judge said they were untrue. Your opinion is that "untrue" means "lie", which is rediculous and a standard you only apply to Mike, but not to your cronies. This is just one examle of many I could bring forward.
Don't give us that BS about me not presenting facts to contradict your opinions. You are obviously "attempting to mislead". :roll:
Do you believe MC was truthful regarding the testimony in question-yes or no? What did the Judge say about that testimony? Do you know the concern expressed and warning Judge Strom gave to the plaintiff's attorneys regarding any of Mike's testimony and why that warning was issued?
The mere fact that the Judge did not elect to pursue perjury charges does not mean perjury did not occur. To be fair to Mike I will accept your differentiation of "untrue" versus "lie".
Sandbag: "You're not interested in facts, SH. You're interested in your opinion and presenting that as a fact. The last thing we tangled on is a prime example. You call Mike Callicrate a purjuror. The fact that I presented is that he has not been convicted of purjury. That fact didn't matter to you because your opinion is that he lied. You point to a judge's comments - the fact that the judge said they were untrue. Your opinion is that "untrue" means "lie", which is rediculous and a standard you only apply to Mike, but not to your cronies. This is just one examle of many I could bring forward."