Tony and some legislator.

[P Joe]

Yes.

Really, like I said I'm not going to let you crap talk you way thru this. Your wrong, and if you are to have any credabillity or respect for the law then you will admit it in you next post.

Here are the rules, taken twice to the SD supreme court and upheld. No one gives 2 sh!ts about your opinion, and who cares if you close up your land. For you out-of-staters, save your fingers. Your opinion will never matter. You can't vote here, thank god! I don't tell you how to run your state, don't come on here with your "high moral horse" and tell me how to run mine. Worry about you immigration rules or other crap that is ruining this country. I don't think the USA is going to spiral down hill because some hunter and landowner don't agree in South Dakota!

Rules are rules LB and this is what we(including you) have to follow! :wink:

Public road rights-of-way are open for the hunting of small game and waterfowl (see Dove, Youth Pheasant Season, and Resident-Only Pheasant Season for special road hunting restrictions). However, no person may hunt within 660 feet of schools, churches, occupied dwellings and livestock. Furthermore, neither the person discharging a firearm nor the small game animal being shot at may be within the 660-foot safety zone.

The public right-of-way along a section line or other highway is open for hunting if:
1. The right-of-way has been commonly used by the public for vehicular travel, as demonstrated by the
existence of a well-worn vehicle trail.
2. An intentional alteration or adaptation has been made to the right-of-way to enhance the natural terrain's
utility for vehicular travel or to permit vehicular travel where it was not possible before.
NOTE: Fences are sometimes not on a right-of-way boundary and sometimes there is no fence. Most section
line rights-of-way are 66 feet wide. Some acquired rights-of-way are wider

Hunters can take only small game (except doves) and waterfowl within the right-of-way on foot. The hunter must be within the right-of-way and the game must have taken flight from within or be flying over the right-of-way.
• The person must park or stop their vehicle as far to the right-hand side of the road as possible.
• If the person who discharges a firearm is more than 50 yards from the vehicle, the doors on the side of the
vehicle nearest the roadway must be closed, but the engine may remain running.
• If the person who discharges a firearm is less than 50 yards from the vehicle, all of the doors of the vehicle
must be closed and the engine shall be turned off.
• It is NOT legal to shoot small game and waterfowl that takes flight from a public right-of way over a Federal
Refuge or Indian Tribal Trust lands. If a State-licensed hunter shoots at a bird across the fence on either of
these lands, the hunter may be subject to arrest by Federal Fish & Wildlife officers.
• Small game and waterfowl taken from the right-of-way but falling onto private property can be retrieved by
unarmed hunters on foot.
• Big game CANNOT be taken on or from a road right-of-way using a rifle or bow and arrow if the right-ofway
meets the requirements of "improved road" as defined above. In other words, if it is legal to hunt a road
right of way or section line for small game or waterfowl, it is illegal to shoot at big game from there with a rifle
or bow and arrow.
• Big game may not be shot at from any Black Hills National Forest System road.
• Any person who, while hunting a road right-of-way, negligently endangers another person, or puts that
person in fear of imminent serious bodily harm, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

A violation of the 660-foot law carries a one-year suspension of hunting privileges when the distance is clearly and accurately posted.

Now if you any of you ever pist with a person following this rules to a tee then you would be guilty of harrasment.

Harassment
No person may intentionally interfere with other persons lawfully engaged in taking or attempting to take game or fish, engage in activity specifically
intended to harass or prevent the lawful taking of game or fish, or scare or disturb game with specific intent to prevent its lawful taking.

I'll pass on your invite LB, since YOU would be the one taking the ol trip back to the shieff's department. :shock:

 

[Liberty Belle]

Talking about trips to the sheriff!!

I just found this article about road hunters, Southdakotahunter, publichunter, Happy Go Lucky, and P Joe. When is court? :???:

Landowner gives chase to night hunters
The Associated Press

PIERRE, S.D. - Four Wisconsin men were cited for illegal night hunting after a Lyman County landowner heard a gunshot near his home and chased after them in his vehicle. State Conservation Officer Mark Ohm says the four were cited for illegal spotlighting, and the driver was cited for drunken driving.

It started around 12:30 this morning when the landowner heard the shot, confronted the four and then called the authorities. When the group took off, he gave chase.

The GF&P, Highway Patrol, and sheriff's offices from three counties were involved. Ohm says the landowner lost track of the group during a chase of a dozen miles. He says they were later found at a game lodge in Gregory County.

Ohm says the four arrived in the state just yesterday to hunt pheasants. He says conviction for illegal use of night vision could bring a $204 fine, loss of hunting privileges for a year, and loss of a $2,000 night vision scope.

December 7, 2007

 

[Happy go lucky]

What does that have to do with legal road hunting? You think if you make it illegal that will solve poaching? Your funny LB, those that want to break the law will do so no matter the laws you have on the books!
It is against the law to drive drunk in any state yet people do it.

Your out in left field LB and I see how you divert from the serious questions asked by bringing up a poaching incident? Great try to divert from the facts and realty of the situation being debated.

Pjoe was kind enough to post the laws for you yet you try to divert, typical of those that have no facts to back a claim.

 

[P Joe]

He says conviction for illegal use of night vision could bring a $204 fine, loss of hunting privileges for a year, and loss of a $2,000 night vision scope.

December 7, 2007

Where in this does it have anything to do with road hunting???

It doesn't

Now either admit you are wrong or coward behind this crap some more :!:

 

[Anonymous]

It just baffles me that the sportsmans groups of SD haven't pushed thru/been pushing for laws to do away with "slob hunting"-- which I define as shooting from or across roadway ROW- and shooting from a vehicle- or hunting where they don't know who owns it :shock: :roll: :???:

I remember in Montana when much of this was all passed it was supported by sportsmen- Fish and Game- statewide law enforcement- and landowners...The only argument was for "handicapped"- which they passed an exception law for (if they qualified for a handicap license) allowing them to shoot from a vehicle as long as the animal was on land they had permission to hunt- and as long as they were not shooting across a roadway......

If a hunter doesn't have the energy/time/resources/willingness to preplan their hunt and find out who's land it is and get permission ahead of time- then they shouldn't be out there hunting.....These are also the same idiots we have to spend a lot of local taxpayer dollars on around here to go out looking for because they got lost- because they didn't know where they were in the first place.....

 

[Happy go lucky]

Oldtimer, road hunting is not slob hunting, there are slob hunters that hunt public ground and private and those that shoot from the road onto private ground, but ending road hunting is not going to help in that reguard as they will continue to do it!
If I want to take my son or daughter along and walk a few miles of road ditch and follow the laws set forth by my state what does that hurt? I'm not a slob hunter because I may not have the time to drive to a private or public area 20+ miles away. Also I don't know of any state that allows big game road hunting, yet the slobs still shoot at deer from the road onto private ground.Those are true slob hunters, becuase they don't follow the laws.
I trap and I have the right set forth by my state laws to trap the ditches and under the bridges, that has been through the years a good thing as I could check my trap/snare line in an efficant manner and not have to have all private ground which takes more time to move through.
I have hunted/trapped plenty of public and private ground and follow the laws as do many 1,000's of other hunters, just because you can not control the activity of the ditches you complain and want to paint all as slob hunters if they use the road right of ways. That is what this is all about control of that land, well the state owns that ground and is not privately held reguardless of the tax situation we have been over that.
Get real.

 

[Doug Thorson]

It just baffles me that the sportsmans groups of SD haven't pushed thru/been pushing for laws to do away with "slob hunting"-- which I define as shooting from or across roadway ROW- and shooting from a vehicle- or hunting where they don't know who owns it

Because Tony Dean and others like Publichunter, P Joe, Southdakotahunter and happy go lucky are the ones running most of the "sportsmans" groups. They have pushed the "big bad landowner destroying habitat out of greed" thing long enough so now when it comes to the legislature, they have a tendency to think we are all just trying to put more bucks in our pocket so they tend to favor the "sportsmen"

Not to say all landowners are right because there have been numerous violations among the people running the hunting lodges.

Also, if all road hunters hunted lawfully I wouldn't have any problem but every opening weekend of pheasant season there are at least 20 vehicles go down the road by my place, some with a shotgun out the window, some with a beer in their hand and every pheasant in the ditch creates a traffic situation because they don't care if they are 10 feet short of the crest in a hill or wherever. They also have a tendency to drive right down the middle of the road so they can watch both ditches.

I am not in the law enforcement bussiness and I don't own a video camera. I haven't seen a Game Warden in 2 years and the last time there was a wreck out here the Sherriff got lost and had to be led out here. I was inches from killing someone when I came over a hill a couple years ago and thank God the pheasant flew over the pasture instead of down the road and over the hill. My neighbor has had BBs hit his house with his children playing in the yard. There is no excuse to keep allowing this stupid practice to continue PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Southdakotahunter]

I would say, old timer, your talking about big game.......its illegal here also to hunt from a road/shoot out of the car. But you know what? The most violations i see is from landowners/those given permission to hunt by the landowner. You dont see much of the shooting from the road at big game around here because its illegal. THose getting busted for that, quite often, is the landowner who thinks its ok because they own the land.

It is very illegal to shoot from inside a car at a pheasant. You loose your license for a year for that.

 

[publichunter]

LB:
Thank you for reporting the Poacher incident, I would hope you or no others on this Board think they were road hunters?
First off they were shooting over a spot light, they were arrested for DUI, they drove back to the Hunting Lodge ( another fine landowner of SD) and ran into their room and tried to pretend they were sleeping and didnt do it. when the CO and sheriff arrived.
They shot the gun at a "cat" within 150 yards of the landowner who chased them. IM sure PT, Oldtimer, LB, SJ, and Doug will call of these guys slob road hunters.

My challenge to you LB is look at hinting lodges as a lawmaker.
Where these hunters served (provided) alchol from the Lodge Owner?

Geez a bar (hunting lodge) that isnt regulated, licensed or taxed by the state.

They returned to the Lodge and hid in their room, they returned to another non-regulated sleeping establishment (hunting lodge), of which it is non-licensed and un-taxed as a commercial business?
By the state of SD.

If they (poachers) were served (provided) alchol by the fine Lodge Owner, Landowner and he allowed them to leave ( the lodge) after they had been drinking and allowed then to DRIVE AROUND THE COUNTRY SIDE DRUNK, SHOOTING WHO KNOWS WHAT?
What type of example is this lanowner? SLOB?
I bet the lodge owner is against road hunting too.......

 

[passin thru]

I just love you hunters "tellin us what we believe and then attack that stance.
Surely you can do better than that drivel you post.

Oh and I need to go fix some fence along the road, I hope I don't get in their way.................oh I can stay a ways ahead of them so they don't shoot me :wink:

 

[publichunter]

PT If I were you I would worry about the neighbors nephew or son from town, they are probabally more apt to shoot at ya......

 

[passin thru]

maybe so................but at least they won't hunt on you and then cuss you behind your back like so many of the hunters here

 

[P Joe]

Here are the rules, taken twice to the SD supreme court and upheld.

Public road rights-of-way are open for the hunting of small game and waterfowl (see Dove, Youth Pheasant Season, and Resident-Only Pheasant Season for special road hunting restrictions). However, no person may hunt within 660 feet of schools, churches, occupied dwellings and livestock. Furthermore, neither the person discharging a firearm nor the small game animal being shot at may be within the 660-foot safety zone.

The public right-of-way along a section line or other highway is open for hunting if:
1. The right-of-way has been commonly used by the public for vehicular travel, as demonstrated by the
existence of a well-worn vehicle trail.
2. An intentional alteration or adaptation has been made to the right-of-way to enhance the natural terrain's
utility for vehicular travel or to permit vehicular travel where it was not possible before.
NOTE: Fences are sometimes not on a right-of-way boundary and sometimes there is no fence. Most section
line rights-of-way are 66 feet wide. Some acquired rights-of-way are wider

Hunters can take only small game (except doves) and waterfowl within the right-of-way on foot. The hunter must be within the right-of-way and the game must have taken flight from within or be flying over the right-of-way.
• The person must park or stop their vehicle as far to the right-hand side of the road as possible.
• If the person who discharges a firearm is more than 50 yards from the vehicle, the doors on the side of the
vehicle nearest the roadway must be closed, but the engine may remain running.
• If the person who discharges a firearm is less than 50 yards from the vehicle, all of the doors of the vehicle
must be closed and the engine shall be turned off.
• It is NOT legal to shoot small game and waterfowl that takes flight from a public right-of way over a Federal
Refuge or Indian Tribal Trust lands. If a State-licensed hunter shoots at a bird across the fence on either of
these lands, the hunter may be subject to arrest by Federal Fish & Wildlife officers.
• Small game and waterfowl taken from the right-of-way but falling onto private property can be retrieved by
unarmed hunters on foot.
• Big game CANNOT be taken on or from a road right-of-way using a rifle or bow and arrow if the right-ofway
meets the requirements of "improved road" as defined above. In other words, if it is legal to hunt a road
right of way or section line for small game or waterfowl, it is illegal to shoot at big game from there with a rifle
or bow and arrow.
• Big game may not be shot at from any Black Hills National Forest System road.
• Any person who, while hunting a road right-of-way, negligently endangers another person, or puts that
person in fear of imminent serious bodily harm, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

A violation of the 660-foot law carries a one-year suspension of hunting privileges when the distance is clearly and accurately posted.

If you have a problem with the rules, then go change them.

You p!ss and moan and bang on the door about SDHunter and PH "telling" you how to run you land.

Don't p!ss and moan to us because you guys have a crap @ss sheiff or game warden and don't make people follow the law.

And by the way LB, I'm still waiting for your retractions

 

[passin thru]

You p!ss and moan and bang on the door

That is all you have done on here...........as a matter of fact, why else would you come to a rancher site. Now go pee on your own rice krispies.

 

[P Joe]

You p!ss and moan and bang on the door

That is all you have done on here...........as a matter of fact, why else would you come to a rancher site. Now go pee on your own rice krispies.

Typicall, I didn't expect anything more from a small minded man like yourself,

I don't agree with you so get off my site :shock: :lol:

Still waiting LB

 

[passin thru]

I see everything is still going right over your head. Just as I suspected though. Keep it up you are living down to our expectations

 

[Happy go lucky]

Doug because you have some bad apples means to make illegal a practice that many use? Then make booze and beer illegal then we could cut drunk driving and fighting down. Make any nudity illegal and we could solve more issues. Make aerosols illegal and we wouldn't have people huffing, make any drug needed to make illegal drugs illegal etc, etc.
There are laws in place and the majority abide by them or wouldn't have a hard time convincing your legislators in your state the laws need changed correct?
I don't think any state is against landowners as a whole do you really believe that is happening where you live? Hunters and trappers have been at the brunt of many people, landowners, animal rights people and just those that think these practices are in humane and should be done away with. So excuse sportsman if they have a little chip on their shoulders when it comes to protecting the laws that are in place in the year 2007, because they have been hammered on by every angel in the past. Leading to more rules and restrictions.
You think landowners have had it bad? Not even close to the what the press nationwide has written about hunters and trappers. I might add a very large % is false and without facts.

 

[P Joe]

I see everything is still going right over your head. Just as I suspected though. Keep it up you are living down to our expectations

You're just a gem :!:

You're just p!ssed that you haven't a fact to back any of you crap talk up so you'll just post some dumb pictures and dance around it. You must of been the baby\only child of the family, you sure act like it.

Hey, LB, :wave: still waiting

 

[passin thru]

Still right over your head.............................

 

[Doug Thorson]

You once said that the landowner holds the trump card. (any entitlement there ), thats a pretty strong statement giving the fact that us landowners and rual people are on the decline. You start putting things to a vote and we may very well be on the losing end of things.

I said that in another thread a month ago about the walk in hunting. GF&P stupid policies, hunters with attitudes and Tony Dean and his whining to try to make most landowners look like the bad guy have went a long way toward closing down the sport they love

.

My quote from another thread.

No doubt that the issue of hunting of any kind will be on the ballot in the near future. Doing away with the second ammendment hasn't worked as well as they want so maybe the easiest way will be to do away with hunting so there will be no real reason to own a gun.

Now why would anyone want the poor light that road hunting puts out to the public and the divisiveness that it causes from a hunters only ally(landowners) and then to top it off get confrontational about it?

Just because there are 2 threads that should be one.