Bill said:Was USDA trying to hide something? Why be mad at the OIG that it ended up being positive?
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Bill said:Was USDA trying to hide something?
Oldtimer said:Bill said:Was USDA trying to hide something?
I really don't think so- anyway hope not....I think its just a totally disfunctional Department that has been dictated to by the big money for so many years that it has lost sight of what its function is supposed to be and the ability to perform those functions...
And Johanns is just realizing all this and taking out his frustrations......I think for a while he truly believed he was in charge :!:
:lol: :lol: :lol: You are assuming that Americans will comply! Oldtimer and others still figure a brand is all you need. :lol:STAFF said:Too Bad our technology of traceback wasn't available for that animal as a traceout would take ten seconds.
Bill said:Was USDA trying to hide something? Why be mad at the OIG that it ended up being positive?
Bill said::lol: :lol: :lol: You are assuming that Americans will comply! Oldtimer and others still figure a brand is all you need. :lol:STAFF said:Too Bad our technology of traceback wasn't available for that animal as a traceout would take ten seconds.
don said:ot: Bill according to the people in the know- Montanas and several other states current brand inspection system is much better than Canadas tag hanging in the ear system( if it stays)- Canada has the tag but no tracking system.... At least the inspection system has a paper trail record that traces the movement of those cattle from county to county and state to state where the Canadian tag only shows you who owned the animal when the tag was stuck in
we also have a brand inspection system ot. probably not as good as yours of course. seems to me the oie thought canada did a good job of traceback and we managed to positively identify the washington cow for you. didn't the oie tell usda to quit wasting time tracing cohorts because you didn't have a capable system? looks like if your just going to rely on brands you'll have to compel everybody to brand.
don said:yeah you're right, your system is far superior. everybody says so.
Oldtimer said:don said:ot: Bill according to the people in the know- Montanas and several other states current brand inspection system is much better than Canadas tag hanging in the ear system( if it stays)- Canada has the tag but no tracking system.... At least the inspection system has a paper trail record that traces the movement of those cattle from county to county and state to state where the Canadian tag only shows you who owned the animal when the tag was stuck in
we also have a brand inspection system ot. probably not as good as yours of course. seems to me the oie thought canada did a good job of traceback and we managed to positively identify the washington cow for you. didn't the oie tell usda to quit wasting time tracing cohorts because you didn't have a capable system? looks like if your just going to rely on brands you'll have to compel everybody to brand.
don- Does your system keep a record of cattle movement? No-- Is your system a Permanent (unalterable) system? No-- Were all your cattle being ID'd 10 years ago? No...Can most Canadians tell you where their 10 year old cows came from that the bought-- Some maybe- some maybe not---Even Good old Canadian Tam admits that she has illegal contraband US cattle in her herd (not Big Muddies tho :???: ) that were taken (illegally) out of the feeder program without her knowledge-- Where and how did they come to be ? Porker and Staff have commented about your system- Its a system that tells you who maybe raised or once owned the animal, but not a true tracing system which some states already have and the US is trying to institute-- So don't give me the holier than tho story......
Tam said:But if you ask anyone but you die hards in the US they will tell you that the US needs to get a NATIONAL ID SYSTEM in place and every delay puts you just that much farther behind the rest of the world including CANADA.
Oldtimer said:Tam said:But if you ask anyone but you die hards in the US they will tell you that the US needs to get a NATIONAL ID SYSTEM in place and every delay puts you just that much farther behind the rest of the world including CANADA.
Then why aren't you exporting to the rest of the world :???: -- why are you complaining because the US won't take these "miracle cattle" and put the USDA stamp on them and sell them for you :???: :? .......You are a sovereign nation- test them and sell to the Asian rim- or did NAFTA sell out the identity of Canadian beef and most of Canadas sovereignty-- and you can't do anything without asking the Corporate world if its OK--Good old One World Order
Silver said:You're whining again OT