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Liberty Belle

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Tony Dean has been on the road trying to save the Endangered Apecies Act from evil ranchers and farmers - or at least that's what he says...

Check out the goodies he posted on his web page today. I think he's still either high or so hung over he can't see to proof read.

http://www.tonydean.com/issues2.html
 
ooooooooooooooooooooooo you make me so mad, stevec. Where have you been since you started posting, I know you cruise this forum, otherwise you wouldn't post on Ranch Talk. So you haven't read anything at all about how we take such special care of the land, because if we abuse it we end up suffering the consequences and THAT is not having the grass available to feed our livestock....and if we take care of it, someone else will take the credit - esp those of us who lease state and federal lands for grazing... we put the money into those by improving water, and fixing and building fence. You just made it look like we're a bunch of developers just in for the profit...... NOT! Keep your comments to yourself, sir, concerning our stewardship of the land. :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
Hanta Yo said:
ooooooooooooooooooooooo you make me so mad, stevec. Where have you been since you started posting, I know you cruise this forum, otherwise you wouldn't post on Ranch Talk. So you haven't read anything at all about how we take such special care of the land, because if we abuse it we end up suffering the consequences and THAT is not having the grass available to feed our livestock....and if we take care of it, someone else will take the credit - esp those of us who lease state and federal lands for grazing... we put the money into those by improving water, and fixing and building fence. You just made it look like we're a bunch of developers just in for the profit...... NOT! Keep your comments to yourself, sir, concerning our stewardship of the land. :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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don't hold back, Hanta....tell him/her/it how you REALLY feel!!!! :nod: :nod:
 
WOO HOO HANTA you go girl,nothing pees me off more then people who do not understand that ranchers are the LARGEST stewards of the land there is :evil: Greg and I own our land,our river pasture is ALL native grass,and we baby that grass!We've had big offers to take gravel off there but we REFUSE because we do not want that native grass disturbed,speaking of disturbed do you get that stevec??????????
 
Steve Sibson thinks Tony Dean is pretty hysterical too... not to mention that Dean's also irrational and inconsistent. And did I mention socialist?

Tony Dean says too many ducks

Here is a Tony Dean quote:
"We can't let special interests allow us to lose parts of our outdoors," Dean said. "On the prairie, we annihilated the timber wolf and... coyotes moved in. Then we annihilated coyotes and fox and skunks and raccoons filled the void. Now, we have a problem with waterfowl populations, in part because we have too many small predators. Every piece is important."

Now we have a problem with waterfowl populations? I thought Tony Dean was worried about the attack on the wetlands killing all the ducks. Now there is too many? This just goes to show…nothing will make an environmentalist happy. The utopia of these socialists is beyond reality.


http://sibbyonline.blogs.com/
 
I have sat here at the computer tonight for over two hours composing two posts relating to 'stevec' and the seemingly "INNOCENT" and wide-eyed "cutsie" benign comments about almost everything Agricultural, and have discarded them before posting them because they almost sounded too far out to seem real! But this one did it! I mentioned last night on another post that 'stevec' seemed to be worshiping at the feet of :twisted: disagreeable :twisted: , and these several posts tonight that he/she/it composed REALLY did it! Here we have another Liberal "plant" on the order of :twisted: disagreeable :twisted: attempting to do the same stuff that she is trying to do! :roll:

Let us NOT be confused - and let us NOT be CONNED! This is NOT the Political Forum, and if we will refuse to comment on these screwball and complex convoluted topics, we will not look like fools chasing a flashlight beam on a wall!

Just my thoughts, Folks, but I have learned to recognize these tactics from years past, and I refuse to be sucked in by them! :mad:

DOC HARRIS
 
DOC HARRIS said:
I have sat here at the computer tonight for over two hours composing two posts relating to 'stevec' and the seemingly "INNOCENT" and wide-eyed "cutsie" benign comments about almost everything Agricultural, and have discarded them before posting them because they almost sounded too far out to seem real! But this one did it! I mentioned last night on another post that 'stevec' seemed to be worshiping at the feet of :twisted: disagreeable :twisted: , and these several posts tonight that he/she/it composed REALLY did it! Here we have another Liberal "plant" on the order of :twisted: disagreeable :twisted: attempting to do the same stuff that she is trying to do! :roll:

Let us NOT be confused - and let us NOT be CONNED! This is NOT the Political Forum, and if we will refuse to comment on these screwball and complex convoluted topics, we will not look like fools chasing a flashlight beam on a wall!

Just my thoughts, Folks, but I have learned to recognize these tactics from years past, and I refuse to be sucked in by them! :mad:

DOC HARRIS
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Thank-you for that advice...I'll try and follow it :D
 
Ya know, i do agree with you Doc, somewhat, HOWEVER....look who started this thread.....dont go jumping on stevec for saying what he feels when someone throws out the bait. I believe that ranchers are the biggest stewards of the land, but lets look at a few other things about that thread. Liberty Bell lives in the far western part of SD, not in the east where there IS a problem with GEESE, not ducks, so she misunderstands. There are many giant canada geese that wipe out a bean field in no time. Also, if you read what LB says, it makes it sound like Mr Dean is making this stuff up.... Mr Dean is quoting a fella by the name of Aldo Leupold, one of the greatest conservationists ever. I think Mr Deans posts were more aimed at developers, those who want to bulldose everything, however, if you come east of the river in southdakota, there are getting to be more and more farms that bulldose every tree, pull up all the fences, plow from ditch to ditch, drain the wetlands so they can plow some more in areas that were never ment to be plowed....those are who he and the late great Mr Leupold were targeting, not those who are good steward, who i am sure are 95% of those who frequent this site. LB calls mr Dean a socialist, i have asked LB over and over her definition of a socialist and i never get an answer because i am sure she gets subsidies and that is a government program...therefore hypricrate.
 
I'm stumped!!!

Why is Stevec post with a little history and a question about whether we consider ourselves good stewards so upsetting? It's just a question. I consider myself a good steward. I keep a good grass cover in my pastures, have developed water and shelter for my cattle and those things also benefit the wildlife. I enjoy having wildlife around and they are abundant here. Maybe I'm stupid or nieve but I don't see anything to get angry about.

I do understand getting upset with the Tony Dean article that was posted
 
SDH, let me get this straight. I'm to blame for stevec being a nutcase because I posted a link to Tony Dean's truly hilarious website?

I didn't mention ducks, Sibby did. I have no opinion on ducks or geese one way or the other, except that I would rather not have to eat either of them. Sibby, however, lives east river and is an avid hunter. He is also a major thorn in the side of our dear Mr. Dean and he will continue to hold Dean's feet to the fire. Maybe you'd rather Sibby didn't hold the poor idiot up to public ridicule, but when Dean is doing his level best to ruin the livestock business and the free enterprise system, he is just begging to be held accountable for the vomit he spews.

As for those east river "who want to bulldose everything",- your quote - if they bought and paid for their land, they have every right to do with it what they please. It's a private property right and that right is guaranteed to landowners in the 4th Amendment of the US Constitution. I wish both you and Dizzy Dean would read that venerable document sometime.

Neither Dean nor you have any more right to tell us what we can do with our land anymore than we have the right to tell you what you have to do with that gopher hole in your back yard or that patch of creeping jenny invading your flower bed.

Don't preach to those of us on this board about being good stewards of our land. These folks are the best stewards of land that exist on the face of the earth. We have to be. Our livelihood depends on it.
 
Faster horses said:
It wasn't the question so much as WHO WAS ASKING IT!

This guy has ulterior motives, IMO. What we say will come back
to bite us.

I have a valid question. How did he find ranchers.net anyway?
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dang good question, FH!!!! He/she/it obviously has NO CLUE!!!!
 
Still waiting for the socialist explanation LB.....So if i decide to buy up some land next to you and build a nuclear power plant, or how about a hog confinement of 5000 animals just south of your place so you can get a good wif when the south winds in the summer, or maybe a toxic waste dump.....your ok with that right LB? its my land..heck, i may even place those toxic waste barrels right next to your fence, that would be ok since its my land. again, all i was saying is dont jump down stevec throat when someone else posts a POLITICAL whatever and wants a response..[/code]
 
Faster horses said:
I have a valid question. How did he find ranchers.net anyway?
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Probably the same way most of us did. We were googling for something and the site happened to come up.
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And maybe he does have ulterior motives. (People keep saying that, though i have yet to see the prediction materialize)
But even if that's the case, I have to wonder-- why does that threaten you guys?
He's just a faceless person posting on a message board. Just like everyone else.

So far as ranchers being good stewards. 95% of the time that's true. But you all know as well as i that it's not always true.

I wish both you and Dizzy Dean would read that venerable document sometime.
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Uh LB? Not to ruin a perfectly good tirade, but you might want to double check your "venerable document".
Nowhere in the Fourth Ammendment does it say anything about being able to do anything you want to your property. The Fourth is illegal search and seizure.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 
Okay HMW, explain to me where this amendment gives any one but the owner of the house, papers, and effects the right to decide what to do with that property? Houses, papers and effects are property, are they not?

The way I read it we have the right to be secure in our persons, houses, papers, and effects. Where does this give anyone, government agency or otherwise, the right to remove my security? Are our persons, houses, papers, and effects not our private property and if they aren't, whose are they?

Where does the Constitution give anyone the right to take away my rights? I'll give you a clue, you ain't gonna find it in there…

Oh, it was a perfectly good tirade, wasn't it?

Maybe these guys don't bother you since you don't own the land you work on. Having worked a lifetime for the land that we've bought and paid for and continue to pay taxes on, these socialist idiots are a threat to me and mine. (Note to SDH – find a dictionary and look it up)

If you're fine with them wanting to prevent us from shooting predators dining our livestock and not allowing us to manage our land with the methods most beneficial to our bottom line, we've got a difference of opinion that no amount of talking is going to resolve.

Sorry. That's just the way it is.
 
Liberty Belle said:
Okay HMW, explain to me where this amendment gives any one but the owner of the house, papers, and effects the right to decide what to do with that property? Houses, papers and effects are property, are they not?
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That's not what the Ammendment does, LB. You go on to say we have the right to be secure--that's what it does. The Fourth Ammendment guarantees our security in our homes etc, etc. (not to mention privacy against things like illegal wiretapping)
By the way, it also applies to people who are only renting their homes... Ie, neither the state, nor another person (even the homeowner) can come into their home without warrant or legal reason.

But that still has nothing do to with your earlier assertion that "they have every right to do with it what they please. It's a private property right and that right is guaranteed to landowners in the 4th Amendment". Because that has nothing to do with the 4th Ammendment.

Where does the Constitution give anyone the right to take away my rights?
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It doesn't. But again, that has nothing to do with the point you made that I disagreed with.

Maybe these guys don't bother you since you don't own the land you work on. Having worked a lifetime for the land that we've bought and paid for and continue to pay taxes on, these socialist idiots are a threat to me and mine. (Note to SDH – find a dictionary and look it up)

If you're fine with them wanting to prevent us from shooting predators dining our livestock and not allowing us to manage our land with the methods most beneficial to our bottom line, we've got a difference of opinion that no amount of talking is going to resolve.
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What are you talking about? :???:
How does my correcting you on the contents of the "venerable document" suddenly turn into me being "fine with them..."?

You're jumping to an awful lot of conclusions, aren't you? (For example, just because I don't own the land I live on doesn't mean I don't own land...)
 

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