Washington Whispers

[Traveler]

https://youtu.be/-cFL8p-ohwI

I think there could be benefit if it amounted to a reciprocity of the terms and barriers placed on US products, and common sense were used. Looking back to Japan banning US beef, for instance, we were expected to wait until hell froze over and they took their own sweet ass time. It could have been handled better, and we could have used some influence in our corner.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

https://youtu.be/omyiCs-3bUw

That's a constitutional conservative answer.



Trump:.... ah, ah, ah, the subsidy is going to be great, so, so great! Everyone is going to love the subsidy! You'll love it. It will be the best subsidy you've ever seen.

Trump: I've never supported a subsidy, you're wrong. So, so wrong.

Trump: I will negotiate one of the best subsidies ever... the free market just isn't fair... we need tough, tough subsidies.

Hmmmmm.......where was that posted before? http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=75015&p=685532&hilit=Cruz+and+the+angry+corn+farmer#p685532

Yeah, fully aware it was posted here. Iowa primary was about a year ago.

It's a classic example of conservative reasoning by a candidate that understands freedom and limited federal government.

Notice, he believes that deregulation will allow AMERICANS and the FREE market to be productive and do great things.

Listen to Trump.. . He's always the one that will do great things... with him, government isn't the problem... it's you haven't hired the right person to run it... just like most socialists... they don't understand that it is the ideaology that is flawed, they believe socialism/big central government will succeed if you empower the right person/people. It'll be great! With the right person in charge, big .gov will be so successful you'll get tired of being successful. It'll be great. Just wait and see.

Doesn't matter how long he's been a republican... he's a progressive.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

https://youtu.be/-cFL8p-ohwI

I think there could be benefit if it amounted to a reciprocity of the terms and barriers placed on US products, and common sense were used. Looking back to Japan banning US beef, for instance, we were expected to wait until hell froze over and they took their own sweet ass time. It could have been handled better, and we could have used some influence in our corner.

Watch from 7:35 on. Barriers on the whole will be more harmful here than beneficial.

Yes, it might hurt US beef producers a little to not have that market. But it hurts the Japanese consumer and economy even more.

Otherwise, why wouldn't it be best to tarriff the hell out of any and every country at all times? Let the market work.

Some country wants to drive comodity prices up on their own people ... let them. Who does it hurt worse? Their own people and their own economy.

Tarrif wars are dumb. Trumpf is dumb for suggesting such.

 

[W.T]

Rumor out of My #!A source in Carson City tells me Hillary will choose Harry Reid as her VP! After all it will not cost the DEM's a senate seat as he has chose not to run... This makes sense that she would choose a westerner........ All I can say is oh ****.

 

[Traveler]

https://youtu.be/-cFL8p-ohwI

I think there could be benefit if it amounted to a reciprocity of the terms and barriers placed on US products, and common sense were used. Looking back to Japan banning US beef, for instance, we were expected to wait until hell froze over and they took their own sweet ass time. It could have been handled better, and we could have used some influence in our corner.

Watch from 7:35 on. Barriers on the whole will be more harmful here than beneficial.

Yes, it might hurt US beef producers a little to not have that market. But it hurts the Japanese consumer and economy even more.

Otherwise, why wouldn't it be best to tarriff the hell out of any and every country at all times? Let the market work.

Some country wants to drive comodity prices up on their own people ... let them. Who does it hurt worse? Their own people and their own economy.

Tarrif wars are dumb. Trumpf is dumb for suggesting such.

I don't think an all out tariff war is being considered. Some moves to gain us market access to countries that have access to our markets already, more likely. We do not have direct access to the Chinese beef market, health reasons :roll: , yet they have full access to us. And maybe I'm not conservative enough, but I don't jump with joy when foreigners, especially Chinese and Arabs, can make huge real estate investments in North America, firmly situating themselves in our homeland courtesy of profits made from us, some dumping involved, while our real unemployment numbers, and number of "food stamp" recipients are through the roof, while illegals are taking American jobs and costing US taxpayers big time. We don't need to keep getting f'd over, and we need to regain some respect. If you've flown over parts of, or been to Mexico in ~~~~recent time, you'll notice many new US factories being built down there, and many already there. We need some tax reform to bring some of them home. Not some "tax the rich" strategy from Hillary.

 

[loomixguy]

As far as "respecting the majority of Republican voters", that begs the age old question that parents have been asking their kids..."If all your friends were rubbing fresh cowshit into their hair, would you do it, too?"

I see no reason whatsoever to blindly follow along people of limited information or intelligence who bought into a bill of goods pitched by an actor. Doesn't speak very highly of them.

 

[Mike]

I don't guess anyone here remembers the tariffs placed on China's cheap imported tires back in 1999 by Buckwheat? yep 40-50%

Tariff pressure on Chinese truck tires grows
Feb 4, 20161,310 views76 Likes30 CommentsShare on LinkedInShare on FacebookShare on Twitter
In the evening (US time) of 29 January, the US International Trade Commission (ITC) formally announced its decision to investigate allegations of dumping of China-made truck tires and a separate allegation of unfair subsidies. These could result in anti-dumping duties and countervailing duties respectively.

Late last night in the US, the ITC posted a timetable and questionnaires. It is as bad as it could be for the Chinese, who are all heading away to be with their families for the Lunar New Year. The ITC wants completed questionnaires returned by 12 February (in the middle of the New Year holiday), ahead of a hearing in Washington on 19 Feb.

India too
A few days earlier, India's tire makers published a white paper alleging damage to their industry by increased imports of truck and bus tires from China. This was submitted to the Indian government ahead of its annual budget scheduled for 29 February.

Debates in Europe
Meanwhile, discussions are on-going in Europe about similar concerns over increasing numbers of truck tire imports. The key allegation is that these imports are changing the business model of truckers away from environmentally-friendly retreading, in favour of low-priced tires coming out of China which are focussed on single-use and poor retreadability.

Eurasian Economic Community declares dumping
In August 2015, the Eurasian Economic Area (Russia, Tartarstan, Beloruss and other countries) published the results of an investigation into dumping of China-made truck tires. This did not see much publicity in the West, but you can read the 181-page document (Russian language).

This permitted import tariffs of between 15% and 30% on China-made truck tires, depending on manufacturer.

The Gulf countries are also seeking to impose barriers against Chinese tire imports. Brazil has done the same. The list goes on.

Likely impact
Together these barriers are likely to have a significant impact on overall exports of tires from China. And since around 40% of all tires made there are exported, that will only make worse the current 'Winter' in China's tire industry.

My initial feeling was that the truck tire industry in China is much stronger than the car tire business, so the impact of the US tariffs is likely to be less severe than the car tire tariffs from the US.

At second glance, the likely US tariffs, in conjunction with those from the ECE area and probably India and maybe the Gulf region and possibly the EU will have a considerable impact.

When added to the damage caused by the US car tire tariffs, these prospective US tariffs on truck tires can only accelerate the restructuring of China's tire industry.

Two-tiers emerging in China
The industry there is separating into the companies who can manufacture off-shore, and those who will suffer.

Zhongce Group, Linglong, Sailun and Sentury have off-shore operations. Paradoxically, they will probably benefit from the sanctions.

DoubleStar is building in Kazakhstan; a group called O'Green is building in Indonesia.

Most of the others will suffer. I say 'most' of the others. Aeolus, Yellow Sea, Guilin Tires and Double Happiness are now aligned with Pirelli through the ChemChina group, so will be less affected, despite having no overseas tire factories.

The other joker in the pack is Triangle which claims to be financially profitable when almost all other tire makers in Shandong are suffering, and has announced its intention to build a factory in the United States. Triangle currently does not have manufacturing capacity outside China.

GiTi is the strongest of the tire makers in China and is in the process of building in South Carolina, and it works very closely with its sister company, Gajah Tunggal in Indonesia.

Those who can manufacture off-shore will be able to exploit the gap in the market created as successive governments impose import tariffs on the mass of tires coming into their countries from China.

Throwing light on the situation
I mentioned how India's ATMA has published a White Paper on Chinese truck tire imports.

That document is definitely worth reading, as it throws some light on the reason for China's success in markets around the world.

I have analysed it in some detail in my weekly update on China Tire Industry, but it paints a picture of a series of smaller tire makers in China developing relations directly with small importers in their target countries. Neither partner in this relationship is excessively considerate of laws, taxes or technical import requirements.

As small companies, they do not have the equipment to test for prohibited ingredients. Nor do they care too much that the tires do not carry specific accreditations – whether that be the mark of the Indian Standards Bureau, or CE-mark or a DOT code.

All they know is that they can make a profit by selling these tires at attractive prices.

This is the crux of the issue in every country affected by low-priced imports of tires from China.

Nations who suffer could try the expensive route of stronger enforcement, mass-inspections and costly testing.

Or they could slap tariffs on all Chinese tire imports.

Can all these countries be wrong?
Industries, workers and manufacturers around the world are telling their governments that this demonstrates unfair trade coming out of China. With such an outcry from so many countries, I think we have to conclude that this is unfair trade.

I have argued elsewhere that the Chinese business model of selling low-priced single-use tires is arriving in other markets and displacing the established business model of retreading.

I believe that is damaging to the environment. However, I came across a life-cycle analysis by Conti the other day. This claims that the increased rolling resistance on a retread consumes more energy over its lifetime than the energy saved by the retread process compared to new tire manufacture.

Having said that, some low-end truck tires from China have markedly higher rolling resistance than a premium carcass retreaded in a premium retread shop.

In Conclusion
In the end, there can only be one outcome. And it will be very painful for the Chinese tire makers. There was a survey this week in the Chinese press which indicated that over two-thirds of the China tire community believe there will be 'many' bankruptcies, closures and mergers in China's tire sector in 2016. Just 3% thought there would be only a few of these activities.

This is a summary version of a longer analysis of the situation due to be published this week in our weekly intelligence service about China's tire industry. Ask me about our China Tire Industry intelligence service, launching later this month. [email protected]

 

[Mike]

As far as "respecting the majority of Republican voters", that begs the age old question that parents have been asking their kids..."If all your friends were rubbing fresh cowshit into their hair, would you do it, too?"

I see no reason whatsoever to blindly follow along people of limited information or intelligence who bought into a bill of goods pitched by an actor. Doesn't speak very highly of them.

Are you really this stupid? :roll:

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

This is the answer to your illegal immigration question. It is a free handout problem, not as much a border problem. Cut welfare to the point of pain where people need to get a job, and you will no longer have a food stamp issue of the proportion we have now, nor an illegal immigration problem. Illegals shouldn't receive free health care or schooling for their illegal children. The costs are our own stupidity.

https://youtu.be/C52TlPCVDio


Create a tax friendly environment, and get rid of minimum wage and you will have plenty of manufacturers opening new factories. They don't want to be located in 3rd world countries. But the risk pays when you have regulations that kill the free market.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

I don't guess anyone here remembers the tariffs placed on China's cheap imported tires back in 1999 by Buckwheat? yep 40-50%

Tariff pressure on Chinese truck tires grows
Feb 4, 20161,310 views76 Likes30 CommentsShare on LinkedInShare on FacebookShare on Twitter
In the evening (US time) of 29 January, the US International Trade Commission (ITC) formally announced its decision to investigate allegations of dumping of China-made truck tires and a separate allegation of unfair subsidies. These could result in anti-dumping duties and countervailing duties respectively.

Late last night in the US, the ITC posted a timetable and questionnaires. It is as bad as it could be for the Chinese, who are all heading away to be with their families for the Lunar New Year. The ITC wants completed questionnaires returned by 12 February (in the middle of the New Year holiday), ahead of a hearing in Washington on 19 Feb.

India too
A few days earlier, India's tire makers published a white paper alleging damage to their industry by increased imports of truck and bus tires from China. This was submitted to the Indian government ahead of its annual budget scheduled for 29 February.

Debates in Europe
Meanwhile, discussions are on-going in Europe about similar concerns over increasing numbers of truck tire imports. The key allegation is that these imports are changing the business model of truckers away from environmentally-friendly retreading, in favour of low-priced tires coming out of China which are focussed on single-use and poor retreadability.

Eurasian Economic Community declares dumping
In August 2015, the Eurasian Economic Area (Russia, Tartarstan, Beloruss and other countries) published the results of an investigation into dumping of China-made truck tires. This did not see much publicity in the West, but you can read the 181-page document (Russian language).

This permitted import tariffs of between 15% and 30% on China-made truck tires, depending on manufacturer.

The Gulf countries are also seeking to impose barriers against Chinese tire imports. Brazil has done the same. The list goes on.

Likely impact
Together these barriers are likely to have a significant impact on overall exports of tires from China. And since around 40% of all tires made there are exported, that will only make worse the current 'Winter' in China's tire industry.

My initial feeling was that the truck tire industry in China is much stronger than the car tire business, so the impact of the US tariffs is likely to be less severe than the car tire tariffs from the US.

At second glance, the likely US tariffs, in conjunction with those from the ECE area and probably India and maybe the Gulf region and possibly the EU will have a considerable impact.

When added to the damage caused by the US car tire tariffs, these prospective US tariffs on truck tires can only accelerate the restructuring of China's tire industry.

Two-tiers emerging in China
The industry there is separating into the companies who can manufacture off-shore, and those who will suffer.

Zhongce Group, Linglong, Sailun and Sentury have off-shore operations. Paradoxically, they will probably benefit from the sanctions.

DoubleStar is building in Kazakhstan; a group called O'Green is building in Indonesia.

Most of the others will suffer. I say 'most' of the others. Aeolus, Yellow Sea, Guilin Tires and Double Happiness are now aligned with Pirelli through the ChemChina group, so will be less affected, despite having no overseas tire factories.

The other joker in the pack is Triangle which claims to be financially profitable when almost all other tire makers in Shandong are suffering, and has announced its intention to build a factory in the United States. Triangle currently does not have manufacturing capacity outside China.

GiTi is the strongest of the tire makers in China and is in the process of building in South Carolina, and it works very closely with its sister company, Gajah Tunggal in Indonesia.

Those who can manufacture off-shore will be able to exploit the gap in the market created as successive governments impose import tariffs on the mass of tires coming into their countries from China.

Throwing light on the situation
I mentioned how India's ATMA has published a White Paper on Chinese truck tire imports.

That document is definitely worth reading, as it throws some light on the reason for China's success in markets around the world.

I have analysed it in some detail in my weekly update on China Tire Industry, but it paints a picture of a series of smaller tire makers in China developing relations directly with small importers in their target countries. Neither partner in this relationship is excessively considerate of laws, taxes or technical import requirements.

As small companies, they do not have the equipment to test for prohibited ingredients. Nor do they care too much that the tires do not carry specific accreditations – whether that be the mark of the Indian Standards Bureau, or CE-mark or a DOT code.

All they know is that they can make a profit by selling these tires at attractive prices.

This is the crux of the issue in every country affected by low-priced imports of tires from China.

Nations who suffer could try the expensive route of stronger enforcement, mass-inspections and costly testing.

Or they could slap tariffs on all Chinese tire imports.

Can all these countries be wrong?
Industries, workers and manufacturers around the world are telling their governments that this demonstrates unfair trade coming out of China. With such an outcry from so many countries, I think we have to conclude that this is unfair trade.

I have argued elsewhere that the Chinese business model of selling low-priced single-use tires is arriving in other markets and displacing the established business model of retreading.

I believe that is damaging to the environment. However, I came across a life-cycle analysis by Conti the other day. This claims that the increased rolling resistance on a retread consumes more energy over its lifetime than the energy saved by the retread process compared to new tire manufacture.

Having said that, some low-end truck tires from China have markedly higher rolling resistance than a premium carcass retreaded in a premium retread shop.

In Conclusion
In the end, there can only be one outcome. And it will be very painful for the Chinese tire makers. There was a survey this week in the Chinese press which indicated that over two-thirds of the China tire community believe there will be 'many' bankruptcies, closures and mergers in China's tire sector in 2016. Just 3% thought there would be only a few of these activities.

This is a summary version of a longer analysis of the situation due to be published this week in our weekly intelligence service about China's tire industry. Ask me about our China Tire Industry intelligence service, launching later this month. [email protected]

So increasing the cost of goods available based on bs environmental codes is good?!?

So you must really value global warming. Don't look now Mikey, we'll be crushing the world with our expensive and environmentally friendly wind energy. Who cares that it's 10 times as expensive. Maybe the world could tarrif the hell out of dirty oil, push as many oil economies down the crapper as possible so they can't afford to buy anything, and then we can claim were "winning" even though we don't have anywhere to unload our expensive wind energy made crap.



Ever heard of capitalism?

Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.[1][2][3] Characteristics central to capitalism include private property, capital accumulation, wage labor, voluntary exchange, a price system, and competitive markets.[4][5] In a capitalist market economy, decision-making and investment is determined by the owners of the factors of production in financial and capital markets, and prices and the distribution of goods are mainly determined by competition in the market.[6][7]

Voluntary exchange is a rather important aspect of capitalism...

Voluntary exchange is the act of buyers and sellers freely and willingly engaging in market transactions. Moreover, transactions are made in such a way that both the buyer and the seller are better off after the exchange than before it occurred.[1]

What is often not realized is that wealth is not a zero sum game. Destroying the economy of a trade partner will not produce wealth that a healthy partner will.

Creating obstructions to trade will not produce wealth.

Whoever's government least inhibits free trade will have the most successful economy. That used to be the us. But that was before tarp, the too big to fail banks and the government ran healthcare.

Now it's a crap shoot. Of course old T rump want's to replace obamacare....i suppose with his brand of .gov failure. That's the whole game in a nut shell. He doesn't believe in returning health care to private industry. He believes he can create a magical place where unicorns can eat cake and candy and fart rainbows and we'll be happy because it's him making the decisions for all the people and not hillary.

Is he a better option than hillary, yes. I've yet to see him sell 1/5 of the world uranium to russia, give away military secrets to china, or break federal laws in regard to destroying public records and lying about it. But, he's no economical saint.... he might be quite harmful.

 

[loomixguy]

As far as "respecting the majority of Republican voters", that begs the age old question that parents have been asking their kids..."If all your friends were rubbing fresh cowshit into their hair, would you do it, too?"

I see no reason whatsoever to blindly follow along people of limited information or intelligence who bought into a bill of goods pitched by an actor. Doesn't speak very highly of them.

Are you really this stupid? :roll:

I'm not the one who is supporting an actor/con artist who's posing as a Republican, who has financially supported liberal candidates and policies for close to 40 years, and, like his gal pal, the Butcher of Benghazi, may soon be under indictment.

THAT is the definition of stupid.

You're every bit as bad as your man crush from up north...you know, the "really quite conservative" insurance fraud perpetrator.

 

[Mike]

I'm not the one who is supporting an actor/con artist who's posing as a Republican, who has financially supported liberal candidates and policies for close to 40 years, and, like his gal pal, the Butcher of Benghazi, may soon be under indictment.

You're the one who is in the minority. Not only did trump win more primary votes/states than any other candidate, he did it in a big way.

Acting like a child when your chosen candidate didn't get the number of votes is in my opinion acting like a spoiled rotten stupid brat.

Of course I was disappointed when Carson couldn't carry the day in the primaries. But I accepted it and will do all I can to keep Hillary out of office.

You know what they say when one person like you thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Answer: Mental health problems.

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

:lol:

8 years of Obama and this is what Mikey writes to defend Trump?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh boy, wonder if he realizes Obama won the majority vote twice. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Loomix, you must be absolutely off your rocker to not love Obama.... the fat man 2.0 just used some liberal logic to prove it. :lol:

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

Of course I was disappointed when Carson couldn't carry the day in the primaries. But I accepted it and will do all I can to keep Hillary out of office.

Im not so good at common core logic. Explain why a liberal winning the republican primary is good, but a liberal winning the general is bad?

I thought that whomever gets the majority nod is obviously the right choice...democracy and all? Minority opinion and republic founding be damned.

 

[Mike]

Was Romney the right choice? Was Dole? Was McCain? Is Trump? - Who the hell knows?

 

[Mike]

Explain why a liberal winning the republican primary is good, but a liberal winning the general is bad?

Oh, so YOU DO want Hillary to be Pres? I figured as much..................................

 

[iwannabeacowboy]

Explain why a liberal winning the republican primary is good, but a liberal winning the general is bad?

Oh, so YOU DO want Hillary to be Pres? I figured as much..................................

Mikey, go back downwind. Your hair smells like cowshit.

And it's aparent that you can't follow your own logic.

 

[loomixguy]

Liberalism is a mental disease.

"2.0" just keeps proving it post after post. He'd have probably supported Hitler had he been in Germany 80 or so years ago.

 

[loomixguy]

I'm not the one who is supporting an actor/con artist who's posing as a Republican, who has financially supported liberal candidates and policies for close to 40 years, and, like his gal pal, the Butcher of Benghazi, may soon be under indictment.

You're the one who is in the minority. Not only did trump win more primary votes/states than any other candidate, he did it in a big way.

Acting like a child when your chosen candidate didn't get the number of votes is in my opinion acting like a spoiled rotten stupid brat.

Of course I was disappointed when Carson couldn't carry the day in the primaries. But I accepted it and will do all I can to keep Hillary out of office.

You know what they say when one person like you thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Answer: Mental health problems.

Now 2.0's boy Carson doesn't think we need the 2nd Amendment. Carson thinks it should be "put on the table for negotiation.".

Now remember, kiddies, Carson has been issued, and is more than pleased to wear, his official Trump kneepads. The liberal chickens are coming home to roost...all because people can't or won't pull their head out. Yup, 2.0 really IS a clone of that "really quite conservative" original version. Any bets on how many more surprises the actor and his minions will have for us before Cleveland?

After a 30 second sleuthing session, it looks like 1.0 wants to "make America great again", too. Politics sure makes for strange bedfellows.

 

[Mike]

Carson didn't say that at all about the 2nd Amendment. Not even close:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/24/no-ben-carson-didnt-say-we-should-debate-whether-we-still-need-the-second-amendment-i-think/

I used to have to ask fatman if he was really that stupid just like I'm asking you. REALLY?

https://youtu.be/-4h15NIuurY