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what are round bales bring out there?

What are the payment in Montana? Around here they are only around 35 dollars an acre. That dosn't go to far. My opinion you would be better off just using it as pasture. Even if it dosn't make that good of pasture here because of the grass they want you to plant. It's not native to this area. By the time you get the gov involved and have to follow their guidlines. It's a joke, then they come up with the idea that you have to "enhance" your crp by seeding two pounds an acre of alfalfa into red grass thats waist high. You might as well just drive around on the atv in the winter and throw it out by hand. The 10 percent payback is usually 25 or even 50 in most years, but they cut it back to 10 just for this year.
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Alot of the new contracts in our area have paid as much as $58 an acre, but the ground can never be used for haying. But even at that not much is going back in because there are farmers willing to pay 90 to 110 to break it and farm it. I have a landlord that we used to be able to hay his CRP every third year for 25% of payment but now he took it out and we are just haying it every year.
 
Faster horses said:
In Montana, or in this area anyway, the payment is/was $28-$30/acre.
And it was supposedly first put in place for ERODIBLE land, but some
of it is non-erodible. Figure that one out. :?
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I think that has to do with how good you can sweet talk your office guy. Ive seen some ground flat as a pancake put in and other people had goat hills turned down :D
 
3 M L & C said:
Faster horses said:
In Montana, or in this area anyway, the payment is/was $28-$30/acre.
And it was supposedly first put in place for ERODIBLE land, but some
of it is non-erodible. Figure that one out. :?
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I think that has to do with how good you can sweet talk your office guy. Ive seen some ground flat as a pancake put in and other people had goat hills turned down :D
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Sorry, but I really don't believe that. I haven'T heard any quarreling
about so and so got this much and I only got this much......it was pretty
much the same amount all over the county.

We have strictly all ladies in our office and they do a tremendous job;
really know their stuff.
 
Faster horses said:
3 M L & C said:
Faster horses said:
In Montana, or in this area anyway, the payment is/was $28-$30/acre.
And it was supposedly first put in place for ERODIBLE land, but some
of it is non-erodible. Figure that one out. :?
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I think that has to do with how good you can sweet talk your office guy. Ive seen some ground flat as a pancake put in and other people had goat hills turned down :D
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Sorry, but I really don't believe that. I haven'T heard any quarreling
about so and so got this much and I only got this much......it was pretty
much the same amount all over the county.

We have strictly all ladies in our office and they do a tremendous job;
really know their stuff.
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Some of it can be that I have seen guys with good land that just wanted to retire and CRP gave them that chance. Others with sorrier land didn't want have anything to do with this program.

That said and I will say I think CRP was a joke and in theory they shouldn't let it out for the drouth after all they signed the contract. That being said it is hard to see feed not being utilized when it is so dry.
 
Rental rates on CRP ground actually do vary alot within a certain county. In my county I know of some contracts in the low 50s all the way down to the loer 20s. But I will agree with FH that the average seems to be around 30.

Rental rates are based on alot of factors anywhere from soil type to the type of grass species being planted. I do know for a fact that when it comes to re-upping CRP ground native grass species have an advantage in the points system.

The problem with the program is that FWP seems to have more say than the USDA. Total wildlife program anymore.
 
That is true about the people retiring, but there is always more ground that older land owners that live in town want to put in crp. They don't have to worry about renters and such. But how they decided who got accepted and who didn't is a mystery to me. Because it sure wasn't by erodability of the land. Eastern colorado used to have tons of flat fields in crp. Its been a while since I've been there so don't know about now.
 
I think originaly that each county was allotted so many acres for CRP. Then if a few guys with highly erodible land didn't enroll it open the doors for better land. I could be wrong, but I though that is how it worked
 
Dad broke his back in 1983. At that time we were farming about 450 acres of corn. He had put a 220 acre pivot, on BLOW sand, in 1973, and by 83 the pivot was worn out. While I enjoy messing with tractors, I AM NOT A FARMER. So when the CRP came out, it was an excellent thing for the folks. We got it signed up at $58/acre. To be honest, at that time it was probably how the folks held onto their place.
Do I agree with it? Not a bit! I don't think the Federal Government has any business "socializing" anything!! Guess that is why I am a hired grunt, instead of having my "own"/government place.
 

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