Who kills more, Muslims or Christians?

[djinwa]

I keep reading how Muslims are bloodthirsty killers.

Can anyone tell me how many of them we have killed versus how many of us they have killed, say in the last 50 years?

 

[loomixguy]

Why? You keeping score? On September 11, 2001, Hadji racked up 3,000 infidels in one fell swoop. Nuff said.

 

[Faster horses]

I keep reading how bloodthirsty killers.

Can anyone tell me how many of them we have killed versus how many of us they have killed, say in the last 50 years?

Do you have an axe to grind or what? Why are you making this an issue?
We don't go around saying "Death to Infidels" if they don't believe as we
do and plan to kill Muslims merely because they are not of our faith.

Besides, your first line isn't even a complete sentence. :roll:

I suggest you read loomixguys' post over about 10 times. Maybe then
you'll get it.

 

[Larrry]

dj's agenda is shining through, but his argument only holds water if you are ignorant and deny half the facts.

 

[Anonymous]

I keep reading how bloodthirsty killers.

Can anyone tell me how many of them we have killed versus how many of us they have killed, say in the last 50 years?

djinwa-- I'm thinking if you add up all the Muslims killing Muslims (different sects) thruout the Iran/Iraq wars and those killed by Saddam killing his own people- along with those Muslims killed by Russia in Afghanistan- and then the US bombings in Iraq and Afghanistan- my opinion would be the Muslims have been the losers.. (Too bad the middle east expert that used to be on this site got ran away by the nasty attacks of the rightwingernuts and stalkers- as I would have loved to hear her opinion).....

Interestingly if you want to compare the two religions- the Muslim religion is approximatedly 1300-1400 years old...Go back in history and compare that to when Christianity was 1300-1400 years old and the rule of the Popes and the denial of anything scientific- or freedom of women , the Inquisitions, dark ages, and the Witchcraft trials, etc., etc. along with the Crusades -- and see how many Christians were killed in the name of religion- mostly by other Christians ... :roll:
Some huge similarities...

Since you compared the two religions- an interesting new tidbit I just learned... Several of the founding fathers (including George Washington, John Hancock, and Ben Franklin) were Freemasons....And the Freemasons allow in anyone that accepts the belief of a "Supreme Being" which includes Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc. etc....

Freemasonry, Eastern Star, and other similar "secret" organizations appear to be harmless fellowship gatherings. Many of them appear to promote belief in God. However, upon closer examination, we find that the only belief requirement is not that one must believe in the True and Living God, but rather, that one must believe in the existence of a "Supreme Being", which includes the "gods" of Islam, Hinduism, or any other world religion. The unbiblical and anti-Christian beliefs and practices of this organization are partially hidden beneath an outward appearance of a supposed compatibility with the Christian faith.

Which is anti to all the arguments the radical right makes that say all the founding fathers believed in Judao-Christian beliefs only and goes against the current rightwingernut desires to take genocidal actions against all Muslims....

 

[Broke Cowboy]

I keep reading how bloodthirsty killers.

Can anyone tell me how many of them we have killed versus how many of us they have killed, say in the last 50 years?

Was it me that missed you on that last op I was on?

Maybe my sights were a bit off from that last explosion, but it was likely I was shooting on the run towards you and you ducked at the right time

Hard to be really accurate at night when your heart is pumping and you are breathing hard - I always had to work on that one.

I will try harder next time - I promise! LOL

I am just grumpy - or maybe you are just a schitte disturber - or maybe it is an honest question - I will simply answer as a person who has both given and received - like the many honourable men and women on this board who have also worn a uniform.

Maybe you should ask "Who plans to cause as little collateral bloodshed or damage as possible when they are on an operation (even at the risk or their own lives in many cases) and who just does not give a schitte and kills everything in the name of allah?"

Yeah, things do not always go as planned - but collateral deaths are not welcomed, not celebrated and minimized to the greatest extent possible

Or better - "Who clears every op through the JAG (military lawyers) before launching?"

Or this one - "Who does triage after battle and puts their enemy higher on the medical treatment list because he is more seriously wounded?"

And finally - "Who intentionally kills little Pakistani girls for simply wanting to go to school?"

What the heck - maybe you need to go find out for yourself!

In fact I dare you - but somehow I think you would never do that.

Some folks from near here were visiting in the Towers when they went down - I am in agreement - Slam frigging Dunk!

I am sure you got the reaction you were looking for - I wish you were not looking for a reaction and that you were instead - a person of honour - at the moment I am not so sure you are.

While that may not bother you, in my opinion, it should.

I will go away now and listen to the cows sing - the last of the calves left tonight - and I think the mommies are missing them. But the cash was nice! So I can honestly say I am enjoying the music. LOL

Oh, and have a nice day.

BC

Quick edit addition after seeing OT has weighed in:

OT - I do my best to avoid you at almost all costs.

I do not particularly like you and your answers or your comments.

I admit I am not always happy with the way people treat you.

However your middle east expert was a phony lefty who only saw one side of the argument and used her couple of short visits to the safest parts of the Middle East as justification to pontificate.

Your politics are truly out to lunch for an American rancher in my opinion.

And for sure your answer to the original poster is well and truly out to lunch

I will refrain from my personal opinions simply because you are older than me and I was taught to not smart mouth my elders.

I will continue to minimize any contact with you in the future as well.

I hope you too have a nice day.

BC

 

[Faster horses]

Now there, we all have it from an honorable true Mid East expert...one that has been in the field for a long time.

Thanks for weighing in, BC. We need your wisdom and experience!

I, for one, am so glad you are safe at home, listening to the music of
your cows bawling for thier babies. I'm sure it means even more to you than
to the rest of us since you have been away in Afghanistan for so long.

Thank you again for your service. We cannot thank you often enough.

 

[Anonymous]

Now there, we all have it from an honorable true Mid East expert...one that has been in the field for a long time.
Thanks for weighing in, BC. We need your wisdom and experience!

I, for one, am so glad you are safe at home, listening to the music of
your cows bawling for thier babies. I'm sure it means even more to you than
to the rest of us since you have been away in Afghanistan for so long.

Thank you again for your service. We cannot thank you often enough.

I have every bit of respect for folks like Broke Cowboy-- and I agree with him about the fact that we bent over backwards to prevent civilian casualties... My SIL who was a squad sniper (M-14) for 18 months in Iraq repeated some of Broke Cowboys same frustrations- about waiting to get the go ahead from higher up in order to take out someone you knew was going to kill you or one of your buddies...

But he was also smart enough to see all the work, costs, injured, and dead were not going to change the long run of the country/area... As Reader2 told us sometime ago- GW and crew had no long term plan when they invaded...They just thought that we will walk in there- kill Saddam with a silver bullet-- everyone will kiss our feet- and instant Democracy....But in a country that has never known Democracy- and lives/governs by religious sects and tribes there is no Democracy...

FH what is sad is that you- like many others- wouldn't listen to a lady that posted on here that had spent years and years actually "living" in the region-- and spoke 8 languages (I think she told me the other day she is now certified fluent in 9) - and that travels the world over as a private advisor/consultant to our government (Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations) along with many other folks... A knowledge of how all these countries fit together and relate to each other that few other people know...

And what amazes me is her tolerance, understanding, respect, and sometimes in talking to her sounds like love of some of the Muslim people-- especially when I know what her religion is- and the country many of her relatives and friends live in...

But no-- rightwingernuts can't except info from anyone with education and/or years of experience if it doesn't fit their biased belief and what their cults leaders tell them to believe..... :???:

Hermann Goering was quite right:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

 

[loomixguy]

How in the phuck can the old drunk turn a thread about Christian vs. Muslim bodycount into a rant against the Masons? :shock:

Wouldn't surprise me if he wanted in at one time and got blackballed! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good to see BC hand him his ass. 8)

 

[hopalong]

oldtimers missle east expert as he refers to her was a phoney, just like oldtimer himself...
She couldn't prove anymore of what she said than oldtimer does what he says..

 

[redrobin]

I keep reading how bloodthirsty killers.

Can anyone tell me how many of them we have killed versus how many of us they have killed, say in the last 50 years?

Was it me that missed you on that last op I was on?

Maybe my sights were a bit off from that last explosion, but it was likely I was shooting on the run towards you and you ducked at the right time

Hard to be really accurate at night when your heart is pumping and you are breathing hard - I always had to work on that one.

I will try harder next time - I promise! LOL

I am just grumpy - or maybe you are just a schitte disturber - or maybe it is an honest question - I will simply answer as a person who has both given and received - like the many honourable men and women on this board who have also worn a uniform.

Maybe you should ask "Who plans to cause as little collateral bloodshed or damage as possible when they are on an operation (even at the risk or their own lives in many cases) and who just does not give a schitte and kills everything in the name of allah?"

Yeah, things do not always go as planned - but collateral deaths are not welcomed, not celebrated and minimized to the greatest extent possible

Or better - "Who clears every op through the JAG (military lawyers) before launching?"

Or this one - "Who does triage after battle and puts their enemy higher on the medical treatment list because he is more seriously wounded?"

And finally - "Who intentionally kills little Pakistani girls for simply wanting to go to school?"

What the heck - maybe you need to go find out for yourself!

In fact I dare you - but somehow I think you would never do that.

Some folks from near here were visiting in the Towers when they went down - I am in agreement - Slam frigging Dunk!

I am sure you got the reaction you were looking for - I wish you were not looking for a reaction and that you were instead - a person of honour - at the moment I am not so sure you are.

While that may not bother you, in my opinion, it should.

I will go away now and listen to the cows sing - the last of the calves left tonight - and I think the mommies are missing them. But the cash was nice! So I can honestly say I am enjoying the music. LOL

Oh, and have a nice day.

BC

Quick edit addition after seeing OT has weighed in:

OT - I do my best to avoid you at almost all costs.

I do not particularly like you and your answers or your comments.

I admit I am not always happy with the way people treat you.

However your middle east expert was a phony lefty who only saw one side of the argument and used her couple of short visits to the safest parts of the Middle East as justification to pontificate.

Your politics are truly out to lunch for an American rancher in my opinion.

And for sure your answer to the original poster is well and truly out to lunch

I will refrain from my personal opinions simply because you are older than me and I was taught to not smart mouth my elders.

I will continue to minimize any contact with you in the future as well.

I hope you too have a nice day.

BC

Remember BC , exhale and squeeze the trigger. Kill one of those teenage girl shooting neanderthals for me if you get the chance.

 

[Mike]

How in the phuck can the old drunk turn a thread about Christian vs. Muslim bodycount into a rant against the Masons?

Ignorance. Pure & simple stupidity.

He doesn't know the basis that predates Christ by several hundred years. Think King Solomon............................. and wisdom.

Obviously OT is not a Mason:

In short my Brethren a Freemason must be more than a mere milksop he must read in the heavens the magnificent teaching of the one and be ever mindful that the word of a Mason is like that of the knight; and that an untarnished reputation should be dearer to every honest man than life.

 

[TexasBred]

I keep reading how bloodthirsty killers.

Can anyone tell me how many of them we have killed versus how many of us they have killed, say in the last 50 years?

If you're talking muslims -vs- Non Muslims, just remember, Islam has not spread into ONE single country peacefully. It has always spread by war and those not killed in battle were executed if they did not convert. Now go figure that back from the 7th century.

 

[TexasBred]

Which is anti to all the arguments the radical right makes that say all the founding fathers believed in Judao-Christian beliefs only and goes against the current rightwingernut desires to take genocidal actions against all Muslims....

OT to make it simple for you to hopefully understand "No athiest can be a Mason". Nuff said. :!: :!:

 

[Soapweed]

FH what is sad is that you- like many others- wouldn't listen to a lady that posted on here that had spent years and years actually "living" in the region-- and spoke 8 languages (I think she told me the other day she is now certified fluent in 9) - and that travels the world over as a private advisor/consultant to our government (Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations) along with many other folks... A knowledge of how all these countries fit together and relate to each other that few other people know...

What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

 

[Mike]

Attributed to Muhammed-

"Kill any Jew you can lay your hands on.".

 

[S.S.A.P.]

Oldtimer - ask your friend, reader2 if her "tolerance, understanding, respect, and sometimes in talking to her sounds like love of some of the Muslim people--" allows her to travel / live without security.

 

[hopalong]

FH what is sad is that you- like many others- wouldn't listen to a lady that posted on here that had spent years and years actually "living" in the region-- and spoke 8 languages (I think she told me the other day she is now certified fluent in 9) - and that travels the world over as a private advisor/consultant to our government (Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations) along with many other folks... A knowledge of how all these countries fit together and relate to each other that few other people know...

What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

Could also be said aboput county sheriffs that lack the skills to comprehend, as well as the ability to tell the truth...That sure hurts the rest of the REAL L.E. people when it comes to TRUST...
But you do not care do you oldtimer, as long as you get to destroy people with your lies and false accuasitions

 

[Anonymous]

FH what is sad is that you- like many others- wouldn't listen to a lady that posted on here that had spent years and years actually "living" in the region-- and spoke 8 languages (I think she told me the other day she is now certified fluent in 9) - and that travels the world over as a private advisor/consultant to our government (Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations) along with many other folks... A knowledge of how all these countries fit together and relate to each other that few other people know...

What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

Could be because most that are educated and knowledgeable are not radical rightwingers.... The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

 

[TexasBred]

FH what is sad is that you- like many others- wouldn't listen to a lady that posted on here that had spent years and years actually "living" in the region-- and spoke 8 languages (I think she told me the other day she is now certified fluent in 9) - and that travels the world over as a private advisor/consultant to our government (Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations) along with many other folks... A knowledge of how all these countries fit together and relate to each other that few other people know...

What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

Could be because most that are educated and knowledgeable are not radical rightwingers.... The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

You're absolutely right. I see no radical righwingers on here. Only concerned American citizens with Conservative values. Maybe you're forgotten what that means. It doesn't automatically imply "radical". On the other hand I see few if any liberals who are not radical in their beliefs. Just look at what's important to them and you too may see it. During your socalled "working life" what was your opinon of queers, lesbos, addicts, drunks, native americans and blacks?? I can hear the boot heel cracking ribs right now in the "interrogation" center.