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TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

Could be because most that are educated and knowledgeable are not radical rightwingers.... The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

You're absolutely right. I see no radical righwingers on here. Only concerned American citizens with Conservative values. Maybe you're forgotten what that means. It doesn't automatically imply "radical". On the other hand I see few if any liberals who are not radical in their beliefs. Just look at what's important to them and you too may see it. During your socalled "working life" what was your opinon of queers, lesbos, addicts, drunks, native americans and blacks?? I can hear the boot heel cracking ribs right now in the "interrogation" center.

See thats the difference between you and me- you think first off of having to be physical and use violence- and I thought first of how to outsmart them and use communication to accomplish the task...

Altho I could do it--I seldom had to get physical when dealing with anyone...
 
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
FH what is sad is that you- like many others- wouldn't listen to a lady that posted on here that had spent years and years actually "living" in the region-- and spoke 8 languages (I think she told me the other day she is now certified fluent in 9) - and that travels the world over as a private advisor/consultant to our government (Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations) along with many other folks... A knowledge of how all these countries fit together and relate to each other that few other people know...

What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

Could be because most that are educated and knowledgeable are not radical rightwingers.... The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

I would say that what we are currently experiencing in this country is due to Liberals having their way for too many years. We should have stood up to them long ago. "Education and knowledge" taught by liberal professors doesn't amount to a lot of positive things for this country. Common sense isn't so COMMON any longer.

Seems to me there is usually someone with money backing these libs. Those
people have an adjenda that sells us out. They have broken the back of industry in this country. If the libs have their way, your grandkids won't even know the America that we knew. It's almost that bad already. Too many rules and REGULATIONS are choking us. We have to compete with countries with our hands tied behind our backs. They can pollute all they want, but one country has the weight of it --the USA. This already is not the country my father grew up in. I want less government not more. I want the right to
suceed or fail. Socialism might sound good in theory but it just does not work. I posted an article about the movie 2016. You might want to read what that writer has to say.

One more thing--I hope you will answer SSAP's question.
 
The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

you should have told that to Osama,.. and crew..

Meet the al-Qaeda archetype , Educated, professional, married and sane.

at an international conference in Washington last week, when he presented his findings on 382 suspected terrorists who have direct or indirect links to Osama bin Laden's network.

al-Qaeda. Rather, most of them are well-educated, well-off, cosmopolitan and professional, with good jobs, wives and no history of mental illness.

a majority of his al-Qaeda sample were middle or upper class and well-educated. Of his sample of 382, he had information on the social status of 306; he found that 17.6 per cent were upper class, 54.9 per cent middle class

The highest number of upper- or middle-class individuals was among the Core Arabs (from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen and Kuwait),

Only 9.4 per cent of his al-Qaeda sample had a religious education and 90.6 per cent had a secular education.

12.1 per cent had at least a high school education; 28.8 per cent had some college education; 33.3 per cent had a college degree; and nine per cent had a postgraduate degree.

The al-Qaeda subjects' high level of education is reflected in their professions. These are not drifters or unemployed loners tempted into a life of terrorism by the promise of money or glory; rather, most of them had good jobs. Sageman gathered information on employment for 268 of his subjects: 42.5 per cent were professionally employed (doctor, lawyer, teacher, and so on), 32.8 had a semi-skilled job

it was a long article,.. but the average terrorist is over educated..
 
Faster horses said:
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
What is really sad is that bleeding heart Liberals, who might know nine languages but lack good genuine common sense, are advisors and consultants in powerful government positions.

Could be because most that are educated and knowledgeable are not radical rightwingers.... The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

I would say that what we are currently experiencing in this country is due to Liberals having their way for too many years. We should have stood up to them long ago. "Education and knowledge" taught by liberal professors doesn't amount to a lot of positive things for this country. Common sense isn't so COMMON any longer.

Seems to me there is usually someone with money backing these libs. Those
people have an adjenda that sells us out. They have broken the back of industry in this country. If the libs have their way, your grandkids won't even know the America that we knew. It's almost that bad already. Too many rules and REGULATIONS are choking us. We have to compete with countries with our hands tied behind our backs. They can pollute all they want, but one country has the weight of it --the USA. This already is not the country my father grew up in. I want less government not more. I want the right to
suceed or fail. Socialism might sound good in theory but it just does not work. I posted an article about the movie 2016. You might want to read what that writer has to say.

One more thing--I hope you will answer SSAP's question.

So why do only Liberals become the educated teachers and professors ? Or is it that once they become educated the teachers and professors become Liberal? :???: :???:

I hear conservatives whine constantly about all the media, all the journalists, all the government advisors, all the teachers, all the professors, all the scientists being Liberals-- but have never heard why that is :???: Except for the fact that the right wing- and especially the radical right like to accuse anyone that doesn't think their way or the way they want things to be (even if all science says the opposite) of being leftist Liberals as an excuse... :roll:

As far as SSAP's question- I don't know.. I know she travels extensively...
 
The two don't seem to go together...Once a person obtains education and knowledge they learn the danger and futility of radicalism- either far left or far right...

have you ever been to a protest?..OWS,.. tree huggers.. ect...

seen them on the news? ..

they all have one thing in common (other then a need of a bath).. to much education and to much time on their hands..

I have yet to see a bunch of working class at any of these protests..
 
to see the entire list... since Sept 11..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

Malala Yousafzai: Pakistan girl age 14 and two of her friends for going to school


List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2012.10.15 Iraq Samarrah 3 0 A father and two sons are murdered in their own home by al-Qaeda.
2012.10.15 Pakistan Karachi 5 2 Five men are shot to death over 'religious differences'.
2012.10.14 Pakistan Matni 7 12 Religion of Peace militants overrun a police station and behead seven officers.
2012.10.14 Nigeria Maiduguri 3 0 A family of three is cut down outside their church by Islamist gunmen.
2012.10.13 Pakistan Darra Adam Khel 18 40 Eighteen souls are sent to Allah by Shahid suicide car bombers.
2012.10.13 Philippines Lamitan 3 0 Three unarmed soldiers are murdered by Abu Sayyaf as they are buying food.
2012.10.13 Afghanistan Maruf 6 3 A half-dozen people are torn to shreds by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2012.10.12 Nigeria Rankum 3 2 Muslim raiders shoot indiscriminately at villagers, killing three.
2012.10.12 Afghanistan Kajaki 1 1 A 12-year-old boy is disassembled by a bomb planted by Sunni hardliners.
2012.10.11 Afghanistan Maidan Shar 2 2 Two civilians are dismantled by a Taliban rocket.
2012.10.10 Nigeria Riyom 14 5 Three children and their mother are among over a dozen Christians are slaughtered during a Muslim raid on their village.
2012.10.10 Nigeria Dallyam 4 4 Muslim terrorists shoot four members of a Christian family at close range.
2012.10.09 Syria Harasta 40 60 At least forty people are killed in two massive al-Nusra suicide blasts.
2012.10.09 Nigeria Kano 2 0 Devout Muslims kill two cops guarding health workers administering polio immunizations to children following a rumor at their mosque.
2012.10.09 Thailand Pattani 3 0 A father and son are among three Buddhists gunned down by Muslim militants.
2012.10.09 Afghanistan Tarin Kot 1 0 A cleric is assassinated by Religion of Peace rivals.
2012.10.08 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A Buddhist married couple in their sixties are slain in cold blood by Islamic terrorists.
2012.10.08 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Three villagers in a pickup truck are riddled with machine-gun fire by Muslim 'separatists'.
2012.10.08 Kenya Dadaab 1 0 al-Shabaab is thought responsible for the murder of a tribal elder at a refugee camp.
2012.10.08 Nigeria Maiduguri 13 20 Thirteen civilians are reportedly killed in a Boko Haram blast prior to a shooting rampage.
2012.10.07 Syria Damascus 1 8 Jabhat al-Nusra is suspected of a car bomb attack that leaves one dead.
2012.10.07 Somalia Mogadishu 4 0 Four people are reported dead following an al-Shabaab ambush.
2012.10.07 Pakistan Musa Colony 1 0 Sunnis spray a Shia man with bullets.
2012.10.07 Dagestan Buinaksk 1 0 A local cop is abducted by Islamists, bound and then executed.
2012.10.06 Pakistan Gosal 1 1 One defender is killed when Tehreek-i-Taliban militants fire RPGs at a checkpost.
2012.10.06 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Muslim terrorist with a handgun shoots at a Buddhist couple at a petrol station, killing the husband.
2012.10.06 Pakistan Bara 5 4 Five villagers are cut down by a Laskhkar-e-Islam attack.
2012.10.06 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Mujahideen bombers take down four vendors at a vegetable market.
2012.10.06 Nigeria Jalingo 1 5 Boko Haram bombers kill a woman and injure her five children.
2012.10.06 Pakistan Quetta 3 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorists shoot three Shias to death including two teens.
2012.10.06 Afghanistan Edgah 2 0 Two children, ages 9 and 16, are shot to death by Taliban to punish their father for refusing to quit the police force.
2012.10.06 Nigeria Dogon Kuka 17 12 Seventeen civilians are killed during an Islamist assault on their village.
2012.10.05 Iraq Baghdad 5 26 Five people are killed when Sunnis set off two bombs outside a Shiite mosque after prayers.
2012.10.05 Mali Douentza 2 0 Islamists fire on a civilian vehicle, killing two passengers
2012.10.05 Israel Ramle 1 0 An imam is murdered in his own mosque following a religious dispute with members.
2012.10.05 Afghanistan Sargadana 1 3 An Afghan refugee is killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2012.10.05 Nigeria Jalingo 2 11 Fundamentalists bomb two bars, killing two people.
2012.10.05 Tunisia Gabes 0 5 Salafis shout 'No God but Allah' as they beat Shias with sticks and batons.
2012.10.05 Thailand Pattani 1 1 A Buddhist man is killed, and his wife wounded when Islamic 'separatists' fire into their car.
2012.10.04 Pakistan Lundianwala 1 0 A man stabs his daughter to death on suspicion of immoral behavior.
2012.10.04 Pakistan Badhaber 2 0 Suspected Taliban gunmen murder a cop and a boy in separate attacks.
2012.10.04 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A famed singer is murdered by Sunnis for belonging to the Shiite sect.
2012.10.04 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim 'separatists' gun down a retired civilian on his way home.
2012.10.04 Iraq Baghdad 5 13 Mujahid bombers take out five Iraqis.
2012.10.03 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamic 'separatists' shoot a shop owner to death in his store.
2012.10.03 Yemen Lahj 2 3 An al-Qaeda ambush leaves three dead.
2012.10.03 India Kerala 1 0 A Hindu boy is burned alive by angry Muslims after falling in love with a Muslim girl.
2012.10.03 Ingushetia Magas 4 2 Four Russian policemen are ambushed and killed by Religion of Peace extremists.
2012.10.03 Libya Susa 3 1 Religious radicals murder three local police.
2012.10.03 Syria Aleppo 48 100 Three suicide car bombings by al-Nusra terrorists leave nearly fifty dead.
2012.10.02 Thailand Pattani 2 0 Two people are machine-gunned in their pickup truck by Muslim militants.
2012.10.02 Nigeria Mubi 26 15 At least twenty-six Christian students are singled out and executed by Islamists at their campus. Some are shot, others have their throats cut.
2012.10.02 Pakistan Mattani 1 4 A civilian is left dead following a Taliban rocket attack.
2012.10.02 Iraq Baghdad 6 5 A garbage collector is among six people killed in Mujahideen attacks around the country.
2012.10.01 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is beheaded by Islamic fundamentalists.
2012.10.01 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 40-year-old Buddhist teacher is shot three times in the head by Muslim militants.
2012.10.01 Afghanistan Khost 14 37 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders fourteen people, including three Americans.
2012.10.01 Syria Said Naya 3 0 Three Christians are abducted and murdered by a Muslim 'gang'.
2012.09.30 Thailand Pattani 1 2 A 20-year-old man is gunned down outside a teashop by Muslim 'separatists'.
2012.09.30 Thailand Narathiwat 0 30 Islamists fire grenades into a local fair.
2012.09.30 Iraq Madain 3 11 Three Shia pilgrims riding a minibus are exterminated by Sunni bombers.
2012.09.30 Iraq Taji 8 28 The Islamic Army of Iraq takes down eight people with three car bombs.
2012.09.30 Iraq Baghdad 12 43 A series of al-Qaeda terror attacks around the country leaves fifteen more Iraqis dead.
2012.09.30 Iraq Baghdad 3 12 Three civilians are blown to bits by Mujahideen bombers.
2012.09.30 Kenya Nairobi 1 6 A child is killed when Religion of Peace proponents toss a grenade into a church.
2012.09.30 Kenya Garissa 2 0 Two border policemen are shot to death by suspected al-Shabaab sympathizers.
2012.09.30 Iraq Kut 6 10 Six Iraqis are blown to bits by Islamic State of Iraq car bombers.
2012.09.30 Thailand Yala 1 4 A Buddhist married couple and other villagers are the victims of targeted shootings by Muslim 'separatists'.
2012.09.30 Syria Qamishli 8 20 A Shahid suicide car bomber takes eight other souls with him.
2012.09.29 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 A 42-year-old Buddhist woman is machine-gunned by Runda Kumpulan Kecil while riding with her husband.
2012.09.29 Thailand Yala 1 3 Muslim 'separatists' shoot a married woman in the back as she is riding a motorcycle with her husband.
2012.09.29 Thailand Yala 1 0 Brave Mujahideen shoot a 74-year-old Buddhist man to death.
2012.09.29 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A traditional medicine trader is murdered by Muslim gunmen.
2012.09.29 Yemen Lawdar 1 9 A Shahid suicide bomber kills a civilian.
2012.09.29 Afghanistan Herat 2 2 Two people are blown to bits by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2012.09.29 Saudi Arabia Sadad 1 0 Sunni security forces open fire on a peaceful Shiite demonstration, killing a teenager.
2012.09.29 Iraq Mosul 2 3 Sunni gunmen take out a religious minority and his son.
2012.09.29 Iraq Baqubah 2 4 Jihadi car bombers send two Iraqis to Allah.
2012.09.29 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 55-year-old Shia is gunned down by Sunnis.
2012.09.29 Syria Zeinab 2 0 Two Shia youth are abducted, tortured and beheaded by the Sunni FSA.
2012.09.28 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 35-year-old tailor is assassinated in his shop by sectarian Jihadis.
2012.09.28 Pakistan Sheikhan 1 0 A police officer is killed trying to defuse a Taliban bomb.
2012.09.28 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 al-Shabaab is thought responsible for the beheading of a journalist.
2012.09.28 Thailand Yala 2 0 An elderly couple is slain outside a plantation by Muslim militants.
2012.09.28 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 38-year-old garage owner is shot to death for his religious affiliation.
2012.09.28 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 45-year-old lab technician is murdered for being Sunni.
2012.09.28 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A prayer leader is sprayed with bullets by sectarian rivals.
2012.09.28 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A police officer is laid out by a Muslim drive-by.
2012.09.28 Pakistan Youhanaabad 0 1 A protestant bishop is assaulted and by angry Muslims and beaten outside his church.
2012.09.27 Iraq Tikrit 13 34 A Fedayeen assault on a prison leave thirteen guards dead.
2012.09.27 Pakistan Jhalaka Mela 2 7 Two students are torn to shreds by a Tehreek-e-Taliban bomb.
2012.09.27 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 Two Shia civilians are assassinated in separate Sunni drive-by attacks.
2012.09.27 Pakistan Bilal 1 0 A mosque caretaker is sprayed with bullets by sectarian rivals.
2012.09.27 Somalia Mogadishu 1 3 A woman is killed when an Islamic terrorist throws a grenade into the street.
2012.09.27 Yemen Hadramout 3 0 Three children are pulled into pieces by al-Qaeda bombers.
2012.09.26 Pakistan Gulberg 1 0 A 32-year-old Shiite father is cut down by Shia snipers after dropping off his children at school.
2012.09.26 Syria Barzeh 16 0 Six women and three children are among sixteen Sunni civilians pulled from their homes and executed by Shia militia.
2012.09.26 Pakistan Shawal 2 14 A Taliban bomb leaves two dead and fourteen injured.
2012.09.26 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A Shiite professional is brutally gunned down outside his office by devout Sunnis
2012.09.26 Iraq Beaver Ridge Canaan 7 4 A second day of 'insurgent' bombings leaves seven locals dead.
2012.09.26 Pakistan Karachi 2 2 A Shia man and a passerby die following a Sunni drive-by.
2012.09.26 Afghanistan Logar 2 1 Two NATO soldiers are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2012.09.26 Syria Damascus 4 14 A Shahid suicide bomber takes out four security guards.
2012.09.25 Iraq Baghdad 9 11 Terrorists kill nine Iraqi security personnel in a series of attacks.
2012.09.25 Pakistan Layyah 1 30 A bomb blast targeting pilgrims leaves one dead.
2012.09.25 Pakistan Karachi 3 1 Suspected Sipah-e-Mohammad gunmen murder a man and his two sons for belonging to a rival Sunni sect.
2012.09.24 Dagestan Khasavyurt 1 0 A professor is assassinated after denouncing Islamic extremism.
2012.09.24 Pakistan Nankana Sahib 1 0 A caretaker at a Shia shrine is assassinated by Sunni gunmen.
2012.09.24 Iraq Hit 4 6 Four schoolchildren are disassembled by a Holy Warrior with a car full of explosives.
2012.09.24 Pakistan Karachi 4 1 Four men are brought down along the side of the road by sectarian gunmen.
2012.09.24 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 al-Qaeda snipers pick off four security guards at a roadblock.
2012.09.23 Iraq Baghdad 3 7 Terrorists bomb a mini-bus, killing three passengers.
2012.09.23 India Baramulla 1 0 A local official is assassinated by suspected Hizbul Mujahideen.
2012.09.23 Pakistan Sheikh Uttar 1 0 A villager is shot to death by Muslim militants.
2012.09.23 Yemen Amran 12 9 A dozen more people are killed in a second day of clashes between Sunni and Shia.
2012.09.23 Nigeria Bauchi 2 48 A woman and a child at a church service are murdered by a Shahid suicide car bomber.
2012.09.23 Afghanistan Shinkot 5 0 The Taliban murder five local police.
2012.09.22 Yemen Amran 8 12 Eight people are killed when Sunnis and Shias clash over their differences.
2012.09.22 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 25-year-old Shiite is murdered by sectarian Jihadis.
2012.09.22 Pakistan Kurram 2 0 Roadside bomber pick off a couple of pedestrians.
2012.09.22 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A 60-year-old member of the Ahmadi religious minority is gunned down by Sunnis.
2012.09.22 Iraq Duluiyah 5 4 Sunni bombers send five Iraqis to Allah.
2012.09.21 Yemen Rada 1 3 Shiites storm a Sunni mosque and murder a cleric.
2012.09.21 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A policeman is gunned down by a mob celebrating Muhammad's 'Day of Love'.
2012.09.21 Thailand Pattani 6 40 Muslims detonate a car bomb to punish businesses for staying open during an Islamic holy day.
2012.09.21 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Two people are killed by a mob protesting a film of Muhammad.
2012.09.21 Israel Sinai 1 0 Terrorists shoot fire at a group of IDF soldiers providing water to migrants, killing one.
2012.09.21 Afghanistan Nawa 5 0 Woman and children are among five people exterminated by Taliban bombers.
2012.09.21 Pakistan Mardan 0 12 Thousands of burn down a Lutheran church and thrash a dozen Christians.
2012.09.21 Syria Damascus 20 0 Twenty victims of a Sunni terror group are discovered defaced and burned.
2012.09.21 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A lawmaker is shot to death along a city street by Islamic militia.
2012.09.20 Iraq Baghdad 6 2 A children's doctor is among six Iraqis who lose their lives to Muslim terrorists.
2012.09.20 Philippines Basilan 4 6 Abu Sayyaf gunmen shoot dead four unarmed laborers.
2012.09.20 Somalia Mogadishu 15 22 Two Religion of Peace suicide bombers detonate in a restaurant, taking out fifteen patrons.
2012.09.20 Afghanistan Dehrawood 5 0 Two boys and two women are blown to bits by fundamentalist bombers.
2012.09.19 Iraq Tal Afar 2 0 A female suicide bomber sends two other souls to Allah.
2012.09.19 Iraq Baqubah 3 5 Three Iraqis are disassembled by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2012.09.19 Pakistan Scheme Chowk 9 34 Nine people along a city street are obliterated by a Taliban bomb containing ball bearings.
2012.09.19 Iraq Mosul 7 0 Seven Iraqis are murdered by Islamic 'insurgents'
2012.09.19 France Sarcelles 0 1 A member of an Islamist cell throws a grenade into a kosher grocery store.
2012.09.18 Pakistan Mastung 3 9 Three Shia pilgrims are sent to Allah in a targeted attack by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2012.09.18 Afghanistan Kabul 12 11 A female suicide bomber massacres a busload of foreigners "in revenge" for a film about Muhammad that the victims had nothing to do with.
2012.09.18 Iraq Muqdadiya 2 0 Muslim terrorists machine-gun two farmers in their orchard.
2012.09.18 Pakistan Karachi 8 21 A 12-year-old girl is among eight members of the Dawoodi Bohra (Shia) minority are blasted into the next world by Sunni bombers.
2012.09.18 Iraq Kirkuk 4 2 The Islamic Army of Iraq guns down four people near a university.
2012.09.18 Pakistan Gorakhpur 1 0 A conservative Muslim ties his daughter to a tree and hacks her to death for disobeying him.
2012.09.18 Afghanistan Kunar 1 4 Sunni extremists claim a suicide bombing that leaves a civilian dead.
2012.09.17 Dagestan Gubden 1 0 A businessman is shot to death by Muslim militants.
2012.09.17 Pakistan Mustafa 1 0 A 45-year-old doctor is shot to death by sectarian Jihadis.
2012.09.17 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Terrorists assassinate a rival imam.
2012.09.17 Nigeria Borno 1 0 A top judge is assassinated by Boko Haram gunmen.
2012.09.17 Nigeria Azare 2 0 Islamists gun down a retired prison official and his bodyguard.
2012.09.17 Thailand Yala 2 0 A Buddhist couple is ambushed in their truck and slaughtered by Muslims with shotguns.
2012.09.17 Iraq Baghdad 7 24 Seven commuters are obliterated by a Shahid suicide car bomber during rush hour.
2012.09.16 Israel Tira 1 0 A 22-year-old woman is stabbed to death by her younger brother on suspicion of immorality.
2012.09.16 Yemen Mukalla 3 4 al-Qaeda militants level two vehicles, killing three Yemenis.
2012.09.16 Pakistan Jandool 16 7 Three women and three children are among sixteen civilians taken apart by a Sunni hardliner bomb.
2012.09.16 Afghanistan Gereshk 12 0 A dozen women and young children are destroyed by Taliban bombers.
2012.09.16 Nigeria Kano 4 0 Islamists enter a home and shoot a 3-year-old girl to death along with her family, which includes a crippled uncle.
2012.09.16 Egypt Sinai 1 7 A border guard dies after being shot in the stomach by Salafis.
2012.09.16 Nigeria Zango 6 9 Islamic radicals attack a group of civilians playing cards, killing at least six.
2012.09.16 Pakistan Hyderabad 0 1 Islamists angered over a Muhammad film ambush a nun and her driver outside a cathedral.
2012.09.16 Afghanistan Zabol 4 2 Four US troops are shot in the back by Taliban in police uniforms.
2012.09.16 Pakistan Ghareebabad 1 0 A Shiite youth is found beheaded four days after being kidnapped by Wahhabis.

There is a reason we call it Islamic terrorism, and it isn't
because we falsely attribute motives to the terrorists, but
because Islam is the stated purpose and aim of the terrorists.
Daniel Greenfield
 
Hmmm....okay, I'll play along.

While I find your question assinine at best (and I won't print what I find worst about it)
.....In keeping with the narrow scope (and narrowmindedness) of your question, I tried, abeit breifly, to find any incidence of this occuring. I actually couldn't find any documentation of the murder of a Muslim by a Christian, in the name of Christianity. I'm sure there has been such an incidence somewhere, sometime in the past 50 years. On the other hand, there are copious amounts of documentation of Muslims murdering Christians in the name of Islam. So many of them in fact, that one might want to weep.

OT, just for the sake clarity, I want to be certain I understand your position.
You are positing the notion that it's okay for Muslims to murder innocents in the name of Islam and for the sake of religious fidelity because of the "youth" of their religion??? And that because Christians 400 years ago said they were persecuting innocents in the name Christianity, it's perfectly oaky with you that Muslims to the same today. Is that how you really feel???, or is this just another attempt to inflame those with whom you disagree and you feel have perpetrated some wrong against you.
 
CottageFarm said:
Hmmm....okay, I'll play along.

While I find your question assinine at best (and I won't print what I find worst about it)
.....In keeping with the narrow scope (and narrowmindedness) of your question, I tried, abeit breifly, to find any incidence of this occuring. I actually couldn't find any documentation of the murder of a Muslim by a Christian, in the name of Christianity. I'm sure there has been such an incidence somewhere, sometime in the past 50 years. On the other hand, there are copious amounts of documentation of Muslims murdering Christians in the name of Islam. So many of them in fact, that one might want to weep.

OT, just for the sake clarity, I want to be certain I understand your position.
You are positing the notion that it's okay for Muslims to murder innocents in the name of Islam and for the sake of religious fidelity because of the "youth" of their religion??? And that because Christians 400 years ago said they were persecuting innocents in the name Christianity, it's perfectly oaky with you that Muslims to the same today. Is that how you really feel???, or is this just another attempt to inflame those with whom you disagree and you feel have perpetrated some wrong against you.

WRONG CottageFarm-- no where did I say I think killing people in the name of religion is right...The only thing I pointed out- is the comparison between Christianity when it was 1400 years old- and now Islam when it is 1400 years old...Certain segments of Christianity also was a very violent and repressive religion during some of those periods- just like now certain segments of Islam is...
 
oldtimer said

See thats the difference between you and me- you think first off of having to be physical and use violence- and I thought first of how to outsmart them and use communication to accomplish the task...
then you lost everytime :D :D :D :D
 
So the answer to my second question is obviously an emphatic "YES" from you.
Since your point is rhetorical and irrelevant, and analogous to nothing in the modern world, it was really just an attempt to inflame. That's nice :roll:

Isabella was motivated to the Inquisition based on a psychotic and delusional rage against her brother for his perversions, which she turned on the people of her own kingdom after dispatching said brother.
The Al Saud was motivated to enforce Wahhabism, (a psychotic and delusional form of Islam that wants to stamp out all that they percieve as perverse) out of a desire rule over all of Arabia.
The inquisition mostly died with Isabella.
The wahhabis have grown ever stronger over the past 250 years, with no signs of abatement in their rage against everyone who is not one of them. Do you really believe that ration is going to win out?? History DOES NOT support your premise.
 
Oldtimer said:
WRONG CottageFarm-- no where did I say I think killing people in the name of religion is right...The only thing I pointed out- is the comparison between Christianity when it was 1400 years old- and now Islam when it is 1400 years old...Certain segments of Christianity also was a very violent and repressive religion during some of those periods- just like now certain segments of Islam is...

OT when Christianity was 1400 years old most of the people of the world were still considered barbarians. Killing was really rather commonplace. Heck almost all still thought the world was flat and had no idea what gravity was and most disease and death was caused by a person being posesssed by evil spirits. Most of the clergy could read but were not highly educated. Very few of the commoners could even read or write. The Crusades were an honorable mission but did have a number of participants who used them to gain fame and wealth at the expense of others. The Inquisition.....all I can tell you is that you need to not believe all you hear about it but do some actual research and see just how few people were affected, keeping in mind thta there was both a civil inquisition as well as a church inquisition and many flocked to the Inquistion of the Church to escape that of the government.

This is the 21st century. No matter the age of Islam, there is no excuse to see everything non islamic as heresy and subject to death. Historically Arabs have been cowards looking for an easy buck, trusting noone and willing to stick a knife in the back of anyone...even a father or brother. Nothing has changed. Even a illiterate camel herder claimed to write a book and they all follow blindly...if not blindly then forcefully or killed. You tell me, Is it a religion of "Peace and Love"??
 
CottageFarm said:
So the answer to my second question is obviously an emphatic "YES" from you.
Since your point is rhetorical and irrelevant, and analogous to nothing in the modern world, it was really just an attempt to inflame. That's nice :roll:

Not really.. I just use it to point out to all those rightwingnuts that now believe we should commit genocide on all Muslims because of some bad sects of the religion-- that the same principle could have been cast upon all Christians over the generations because of some bad Christian sects too...
 
Could you please show me/point out those who want to commit genocide? I've not seen any of them. I can't seem to find any news stories pointing to them. I can't even find anything from the Arab or Muslim world claiming this to be the case either.
 
CottageFarm said:
Could you please show me/point out those who want to commit genocide? I've not seen any of them. I can't seem to find any news stories pointing to them. I can't even find anything from the Arab or Muslim world claiming this to be the case either.

You apparently haven't read many of the PB posts then... :roll: Hang around awhile- I'm sure some of these rightwingnuts will make more...
 
There he goes....accusing and lying again.... :(

Have you ever told the truth oldtimer?????
Your dad should have taken you to the woodshed right qafter your mom washed out your lying mouth
 
Oldtimer said:
.... Muslims because of some bad sects of the religion.......

Since you didn't answer my question [and I find it extremely odd that you would not question reader2's safety] I'll put another question forward .... since you state that there are some bad sects of the Muslim religion would you, a big strong man with 30 odd years of law enforcement experience, travel through any Muslim based areas *without security*?

edited --- Muslin based countries not areas
 
S.S.A.P. said:
Oldtimer said:
.... Muslims because of some bad sects of the religion.......

Since you didn't answer my question [and I find it extremely odd that you would not question reader2's safety] I'll put another question forward .... since you state that there are some bad sects of the Muslim religion would you, a big strong man with 30 odd years of law enforcement experience, travel through any Muslim based areas *without security*?

I did answer your question in a post to FH---- I don't know...But she isn't always in the mideast either...But she has traveled thru much of Europe lately that has an ever growing Muslim population- just like the US...

And to this question- yes... I have..

Here's the list of the country's top 10 Muslim capitals:

1.Detroit
2.Washington, D.C.
3.Cedar Rapids, Iowa
4.Philadelphia
5.New York

6.Atlanta
7.Peoria, Illinois
8.San Francisco
9.Houston
10.Chicago
 
Oldtimer said:
S.S.A.P. said:
Oldtimer said:
.... Muslims because of some bad sects of the religion.......

Since you didn't answer my question [and I find it extremely odd that you would not question reader2's safety] I'll put another question forward .... since you state that there are some bad sects of the Muslim religion would you, a big strong man with 30 odd years of law enforcement experience, travel through any Muslim based areas *without security*?

I did answer your question in a post to FH---- I don't know...But she isn't always in the mideast either...But she has traveled thru much of Europe lately that has an ever growing Muslim population- just like the US...

And to this question- yes... I have..

Here's the list of the country's top 10 Muslim capitals:

1.Detroit
2.Washington, D.C.
3.Cedar Rapids, Iowa
4.Philadelphia
5.New York

6.Atlanta
7.Peoria, Illinois
8.San Francisco
9.Houston
10.Chicago

Eleven minutes before you half-arzed avoided answering - please note that the question I asked was edited to read Muslin based countries.

In other words - you'd be to scared to travel without security :wink:
 
S.S.A.P. said:
Oldtimer said:
S.S.A.P. said:
Since you didn't answer my question [and I find it extremely odd that you would not question reader2's safety] I'll put another question forward .... since you state that there are some bad sects of the Muslim religion would you, a big strong man with 30 odd years of law enforcement experience, travel through any Muslim based areas *without security*?

I did answer your question in a post to FH---- I don't know...But she isn't always in the mideast either...But she has traveled thru much of Europe lately that has an ever growing Muslim population- just like the US...

And to this question- yes... I have..

Here's the list of the country's top 10 Muslim capitals:

1.Detroit
2.Washington, D.C.
3.Cedar Rapids, Iowa
4.Philadelphia
5.New York

6.Atlanta
7.Peoria, Illinois
8.San Francisco
9.Houston
10.Chicago

Eleven minutes before you half-arzed avoided answering - please note that the question I asked was edited to read Muslin based countries.

In other words - you'd be to scared to travel without security :wink:

Number of Muslims in the U.S. doubles since 9/11


MEGHAN NEAL
Thursday, May 03, 2012
A new survey reveals the dramatically changing face of religion in America, with the number of Muslims in the U.S. soaring 67% in the decade since the 9/11 attacks.

Data released Tuesday from the 2010 U.S. Religion Census shows Islam was the fastest growing religion in America in the last 10 years, with 2.6 million living in the U.S. today, up from 1 million in 2000.

Mormonism too saw remarkable growth, with a 45% increase in adherents. It added nearly 2 million members since 2000, bringing their number in the U.S. to 6.1 million.


SSAP- the whole world has Muslims- some more concentrated than others...That is what makes it such a farce when some of these nuts on this site huff and blow about killing all Muslims...

And just like with any other group- a lot of the answer to your question depends on the country/area... I wouldn't go to Libya or Syria or several of those countries even with security...But I know people that work(ed) in countries like Kuwait, Saudi, Turkey, Indonesia that claim they feel no danger- so I would travel there....I think one of the countries Reader2 has a lot of experience with is Egypt...Personally at this time- I probably wouldn't go there either..

But that said- I wouldn't travel in many parts of Mexico either armed or with security or not... And that is because of a Christian (mostly Catholic) population- not Muslims...
 

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