Who's everyone supporting and why?

[Soapweed]

With Obama or Hillary, if you think things are bad now, just see what four years with either of them steering the ship will do.

You have facts to support this or are you just indulging in partisan speculation? You think things are bad now? just see what four years with McCain steering the ship will do.

For you Democrats, McCain should fit your needs. He is basically a Democrat at heart. Both Obama and Hillary are far left of being Democrats. They are Socialists for sure, maybe leaning towards Communism. There are no true conservative Republicans in the race.

Congress is already controlled by the Democrats, and things haven't changed any for the better since that happened. With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

 

[Goodpasture]

With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

 

[Soapweed]

With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

Dream on.

As the bumper sticker so aptly says, "REPUBLICAN, because not everyone can be on welfare."

 

[jigs]

With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

so we can tax ourselves out of recession?

 

[Goodpasture]

With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

Dream on.

As the bumper sticker so aptly says, "REPUBLICAN, because not everyone can be on welfare."

That is actually more of a bumper "snicker" than a bumper sticker. Can you offer anything but platitudes to support your allegation?

If you look at the last Democrat administration, you will find a balanced budget, a reduction in the size of government, and a strong economy entering a long delayed downturn (but certainly manageable). At the end of this administration we will have had the worst terrorist attack in our history, with the criminal mastermind still at large; we will have spent more money than all prior administrations combined; we will have borrowed more money than anyone anywhere in the history of the world; we will have lost thousands of American's lives and tens of thousands of Americans wounded for absolutely no reason; We will have put more of our citizens in bankruptcy than all other administrations combined; less of our population has access to health care than at any time in history; more people are losing their homes than at any time in history; our trade deficits are the largest in history; and there are more illegal immigrants than at any time in history.

So, do you have something besides a bumper snicker to support your claim? or are you, like most neocons, a polyanna simply wishing you were right?

 

[Goodpasture]

so we can tax ourselves out of recession?

We can damn sure quit borrowing and we can start paying our bills......or isn't living within our means a conservative concept? I KNOW it isn't a neocon one.....

 

[Soapweed]

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

Dream on.

As the bumper sticker so aptly says, "REPUBLICAN, because not everyone can be on welfare."

That is actually more of a bumper "snicker" than a bumper sticker. Can you offer anything but platitudes to support your allegation?

If you look at the last Democrat administration, you will find a balanced budget, a reduction in the size of government, and a strong economy entering a long delayed downturn (but certainly manageable). At the end of this administration we will have had the worst terrorist attack in our history, with the criminal mastermind still at large; we will have spent more money than all prior administrations combined; we will have borrowed more money than anyone anywhere in the history of the world; we will have lost thousands of American's lives and tens of thousands of Americans wounded for absolutely no reason; We will have put more of our citizens in bankruptcy than all other administrations combined; less of our population has access to health care than at any time in history; more people are losing their homes than at any time in history; our trade deficits are the largest in history; and there are more illegal immigrants than at any time in history.

So, do you have something besides a bumper snicker to support your claim? or are you, like most neocons, a polyanna simply wishing you were right?

Bush is certainly not blameless, but it isn't all his fault. Congress sure has done nothing in a positive way to lighten the load. Probably the biggest problem is all the firmly entrenched bureaucrats that basically run everything, with no need to be accountable to anyone.

President Bush has bungled many times. Looking back over my lifetime of ranching, I have bungled many times. In both Bush's defense, and in that of my own, we both made decisions of the moment based on the best information we had at that moment. Were our decisions always right? No. Would we do certain things differently if we had it to do over gain? Most certainly. Were we both trying to act responsibly and with the best of intentions at the time? Yes, very much so.

Hindsight has always been 20-20. If I had it to do over again, would I have voted for either Al Gore or John Kerry instead of George W. Bush? Not a chance.

 

[Sandhusker]

With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

Full Recovery? How will we recover when we would have to pay for the billions upon billions that Barry and Hillary say they are going to spend on their new programs?

You've got to quit drinking the Kool-Aid and think about the realities of their proposals. You're ignoring the fact that there will be a bill.

 

[Goodpasture]

Bush is certainly not blameless, but it isn't all his fault.

Yes, it is. He was hired to defend the Constitution of the USA. He has done his best to eviscerate it.

Congress sure has done nothing in a positive way to lighten the load.

The REPUBLICAN Congress, and the current obstructionist REPUBLICAN minority gave Bush carte blanc.........

Probably the biggest problem is all the firmly entrenched bureaucrats that basically run everything, with no need to be accountable to anyone.

Those same bureaucrats were entrenched when we had a balanced budget.....the only thing that changed is the Republican administration.

President Bush has bungled many times. Looking back over my lifetime of ranching, I have bungled many times.

Your bungling cost you a couple of bucks. Bush's bungling cost trillions of dollars and thousands of lives......big difference

Would we do certain things differently if we had it to do over gain? Most certainly.

No, Bush has repeatedly said he would do it all again.....he has NEVER admitted to making a mistake.

Hindsight has always been 20-20.

No, you are forecasting disaster with either Clinton and Obama, just as you forecast disaster with Kerry and Gore. You have absolutely NO basis for your forecast, and absolutely no basis for your confidence in McCain. In fact, McCain, in promising to continue Bush's failed economic plan, Bush's failed foreign policy, and Bush's failed Iraq strategy is guaranteeing continued failure. Not only is your foresight bad, but in hindsight you only see what you want to see. Instead of saying hindsight is 20/20, your hind sight is blind as a bat.

would I have voted for either Al Gore or John Kerry instead of George W. Bush? Not a chance.

Would their failure have been worse than Bush's? In what way? Could they have made the war worse (4,000 soldiers dead because of a lie....would either of them lied to go into Iraq because Saddam tried to kill their daddy)? Could they have run more industries overseas (Bush has been providing tax credits for companies to MOVE overseas)? Could they have allowed more illegals into the country (we have a open border now.....not a fraction of 1% gets caught)? So how would they have made matters worse.

 

[Goodpasture]

Full Recovery? How will we recover when we would have to pay for the billions upon billions that Barry and Hillary say they are going to spend on their new programs?

by NOT spending the trillions and trillions that McCain is going to spend in Iraq.

You've got to quit drinking the Kool-Aid and think about the realities of their proposals. You're ignoring the fact that there will be a bill.

You need to think about the cost of "staying the course"

 

[aplusmnt]

With a Democrat for President, along with Democrats controlling Congress, we will really be on a downhill slide with burnt out brakes.

Actually we will be in full recovery, without Republicans trying to drag us back into recession.

Bill Clinton did not keep you out of a recession, so what makes you think Hillary Clinton will?

Besides Obama and Hillary plan on spending way more money, just look at all the things they promise to do, how will all that spending help fix the finances?

Any down hill slope that has happened in the economy has happened since the Dem's took control of Congress and did nothing to help things. Any housing problem can go back past before Bush came into office. A President has a lot less power to stop or prevent free market trends than you give him credit for, this goes for Bush causing it or Obama fixing it.

 

[aplusmnt]

so we can tax ourselves out of recession?

We can damn sure quit borrowing and we can start paying our bills......or isn't living within our means a conservative concept? I KNOW it isn't a neocon one.....

As much as you guys want to attach McCain to Bush it is not true. McCain is proposing not allowing Pork in any bills he signs. That single handily will help curve spending more than any other thing. The Dem's propose spending and taxing every time they open their mouths.

If you just believe the candidates, Obama and Hillary will spend by their own words and McCain will cut spending.

Also McCain has a reputation of speaking the truth so why not give him a chance to get rid of pork in Washington? Instead of voting for someone that is promising to add more pork?

 

[Sandhusker]

Full Recovery? How will we recover when we would have to pay for the billions upon billions that Barry and Hillary say they are going to spend on their new programs?

by NOT spending the trillions and trillions that McCain is going to spend in Iraq.

You've got to quit drinking the Kool-Aid and think about the realities of their proposals. You're ignoring the fact that there will be a bill.

You need to think about the cost of "staying the course"

I noticed that, like your two candidates, you tangented off on another topic alltogether instead of addressing in any way my comments.....

 

[Anonymous]

As much as you guys want to attach McCain to Bush it is not true. McCain is proposing not allowing Pork in any bills he signs. That single handily will help curve spending more than any other thing. The Dem's propose spending and taxing every time they open their mouths.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GW said the same thing when he was running- then allowed his own party members to attach more pork onto more unbalanced budgets than any President in history as they sang "spend, spend, spend"- with no idea of where the money would come from....Remember "The Bridge to Nowhere" :???: Remember who controlled both Houses of Congress and the White House :???:

 

[aplusmnt]

As much as you guys want to attach McCain to Bush it is not true. McCain is proposing not allowing Pork in any bills he signs. That single handily will help curve spending more than any other thing. The Dem's propose spending and taxing every time they open their mouths.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GW said the same thing when he was running- then allowed his own party members to attach more pork onto more unbalanced budgets than any President in history as they sang "spend, spend, spend"- with no idea of where the money would come from....Remember "The Bridge to Nowhere" :???: Remember who controlled both Houses of Congress and the White House :???:

Come on you are smart enough to look at McCain and Bush and know they are not the same person. It does not take a rocket scientist to know McCain is a lot more probable to do as he says than Bush was!

You are so blinded by Bush that you are lumping an Republican in with him. You are smart enough to know Obama and Hillary will spend way more than McCain, leave what Bush has did out of the decision, Bush is done.

Don't worry about things you have no control over, and concentrate on those you do. Bush is a thing of the past, if the Dem congress can not keep him in check then shame on them. You should be worrying about the future and quit living in the past!

 

[Anonymous]

As much as you guys want to attach McCain to Bush it is not true. McCain is proposing not allowing Pork in any bills he signs. That single handily will help curve spending more than any other thing. The Dem's propose spending and taxing every time they open their mouths.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GW said the same thing when he was running- then allowed his own party members to attach more pork onto more unbalanced budgets than any President in history as they sang "spend, spend, spend"- with no idea of where the money would come from....Remember "The Bridge to Nowhere" :???: Remember who controlled both Houses of Congress and the White House :???:

Come on you are smart enough to look at McCain and Bush and know they are not the same person. It does not take a rocket scientist to know McCain is a lot more probable to do as he says than Bush was!

BULLPUCKEY- He's a 30+ year politician...And one thats flip flopped all over the place depending on what his girl friend was lobbying for :shock: or he felt fit best for his droves of lobbyiest advisors for the day...Now he needs the neocon backing so is backslapping everything old GW does or says ....

You are so blinded by Bush that you are lumping an Republican in with him. You are smart enough to know Obama and Hillary will spend way more than McCain, leave what Bush has did out of the decision, Bush is done.

Bush is the current leader of the Republican Party- he lays out the direction they are taking...At least with Obama and Hillary, there is hope that the money spent will be for things that need it in this country like Healthcare, roads, education, energy develoment-- rather than like GoodPasture said, squandered in Irag in a 100 year war or in more neocon nation building and a massive global War that McCain threatens as he sings his theme song "BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN"

Don't worry about things you have no control over, and concentrate on those you do. Bush is a thing of the past, if the Dem congress can not keep him in check then shame on them. You should be worrying about the future and quit living in the past!

The past is the best eye to the future- and the Repubs past 8 years history has been outright terrible- made up of uncontrolled spending (building to a 9 Trillion $ Debt) , nationbuilding and warmongering brought about by what has been shown to be outright lying, which has lost us any support or credibility around the world- building the biggest FEDERAL bureaucracy in history while usurping many states rights, along with refusing to enforce laws as they were sworn to (ex.-border and immigration) and out and out violation of many- while eroding the US Constitution- and selling out our country to the big multinational corporations and foreign governments...

Dems can't do any worse.......

 

[Texan]

I'll vote for McCain. There's a lot of things I don't like about him, but he's sure better than any of the alternatives. Hunter would have been my choice. Romney would have been my choice out of the top candidates.

McCain's a fiscal conservative - we need that. I do think he needs to be careful with making pledges about not increasing taxes, though. I don't want any more taxes, but I'm not sure that we can say definitively that we won't have to increase revenue. AFTER we reduce some spending, though.

I don't believe in soaking 'the rich' with taxes, either. I don't believe in that horseshit about breaking it off in the 'wealthiest 1%.' There's got to be a way to increase taxes without punishing success. Personally, I'd like the deadbeats on welfare to start getting taxes withheld. They're the sob's getting something for nothing.

I'd be in favor of a tax dedicated to the war effort. I don't mind paying my share for that.

 

[Cal]

McCain wasn't my first choice but I will vote for him, and do respect him for having been a POW. He will defend the country, we can be relatively assured that he will be a fiscal conservative, we know he doesn't have any Marxist or Muslim tendencies, doesn't belong to a church that spews forth venemous hate and prejudice from the pulpit, and he's not a Clintonian pathological liar. I'm hoping that Romney will be his VP pick, and go on to run for President after this term.

 

[Frankk]

I'll vote for McCain. There's a lot of things I don't like about him, but he's sure better than any of the alternatives. Hunter would have been my choice. Romney would have been my choice out of the top candidates.

McCain's a fiscal conservative - we need that. I do think he needs to be careful with making pledges about not increasing taxes, though. I don't want any more taxes, but I'm not sure that we can say definitively that we won't have to increase revenue. AFTER we reduce some spending, though.

I don't believe in soaking 'the rich' with taxes, either. I don't believe in that horseshit about breaking it off in the 'wealthiest 1%.' There's got to be a way to increase taxes without punishing success. Personally, I'd like the deadbeats on welfare to start getting taxes withheld. They're the sob's getting something for nothing.

I'd be in favor of a tax dedicated to the war effort. I don't mind paying my share for that.

Those deadbeats on welfare are minor children of single white women, anyway last I heard that is the typical welfare recipient. They would have to go to China or India to get a job. I here those little girls are really good a rolling cigarettes, I think they are called bennies or something like that.

Also famous last words of limbaugh in 1992 ( If you think things are bad now just wait until Clinton takes over) You guys still have the same song.

 

[aplusmnt]

Dems can't do any worse.......[/b]

Ask the parents of the 3,000 people that died at the World Trade Centers. If Clinton would have fought back on some of the many times we were attacked under his watch maybe they would be alive today.

Ask the people that suffered financially during the Recession at the end of the Clinton administration.

Ask some of the people that suffered through Obama and Hillary type leadership during the Carter days.

You like to throw around this Neocon label so freely. But in reality all you are is a Liberal Kool-Aid drinker that bounces with the far left loonies.

I take back what I said, you are not smart enough to discern the reality you are to Kool-Aid stained. You have to be careful when you drink that stuff because it can stain things that will never come clean.