Name calling

[Econ101]

Econ

I don't want to call people names, but I do want to argue the points with LOGIC and information. It is not fair for one side of this group to call names and the other side to nicely sit back and take it. Name calling is what you do when you don't have enough logic to make a point.

the only information we learned for you yesterday is how low you will sink to get your point across. :roll:

As far as the "sick analogies", if the shoe fits, wear it.

Would you rather be called a bad name or Cinderella, Tam?


Lets see, I have Tam after me right now, it doesn't matter that there is any logic in her posts, she will just use it anyway, SSAP, probably MRJ, BMR should be, Jason on the sidelines, SH in silent mode,Beefman stalking, Agman out there too.

Boy, this is feeling a little like home. Now, if we could all direct this energy towards fixing the beef industry we could probably get a few things done.

 

[Tumbleweed]

I read a quote a few years ago that stuck with me because there seems to be some truth in it. I try to keep it in mind when someone is saying something that is directed at me that I don't like. I don't know who was the author or the exact words but it goes like this.

"Be greatful for your enemies because there are times when they will tell you the truth about yourself when your friends won't". :???: :shock:

 

[RobertMac]

I don't want to call people names, but I do want to argue the points with LOGIC and information. It is not fair for one side of this group to call names and the other side to nicely sit back and take it. Name calling is what you do when you don't have enough logic to make a point.

Econ, if you don't want to call people names...then don't. "...for one side of this group to call names and the other side to nicely sit back and take it" isn't about fairness...it's something to use against the other side. Look at the membership list...the vast majority are lurkers. You will make far more headway with them (which are the majority of cattlemen) by doing what you want to do...argue the points with LOGIC and information. This is the only way to stop the name-calling...by using it as a tool against them. If they are smart, they stop. If not, they become more and more irrelevant.

Sarcasm is the most difficult thing I have found to try to get across here and those of us that enjoy debating...love sarcasm. When it fails, it's viewed as hateful. Hopefully, most understand that the wink smilely face indicates sarcasm.

 

[Anonymous]

Tramp, tramp, tramp.....here comes the forum police that are more offended by someone being called a liar than being lied to. They are more offended by someone being called a phony than than the phony statements that are being said to deceive them. They are more offended by someone being called an idiot than by idiotic statements claiming that "prices can't go up unless the supplies come down".

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE POSTS, DON'T READ THEM!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody has a gun to your head.

If you perceicved packer victims want a site where your fellow packer blamers can tell you how bad you have it and how the packers and retailers are making "HUGE" profits at your expense without ever having to back that position with facts, GO START ONE. Then you can ban anyone that doesn't tell you how everything is someone elses fault and you can ban anyone that reminds you that your beloved R-CALF has yet to win a court decision.

As long as Conman keeps lying and deceiving, he will be addressed accordingly and I'd gladly say it to his face. I have no time for liars or deceivers and that intolerance will continue to be reflected in my posts. If you don't like it DON'T READ IT!

As long as Sandbag keeps spining and diverting, he'll be addressed accordingly.

How pathetic when these self proclaimed "forum police" make a bigger issue out of someone being called a liar THAN THE LIE ITSELF. Talk about bias. If that liar tells them what they want to hear it must be perfectly acceptable to lie.

This post is nothing more than one more diversionary tactic for the factually void to keep from having to back their positions with factual information.
Those who never bring anything to the table (Tommy) will always be able to talk about how the table is prepared or what color it is because that's all they have.


BTW, Conman, I won't respond to your childish PMs. If you have anything to say to me you can say it here. I absolutely detest your lies and pathetic antics.

You think you really got something with an article that says Tyson is cutting out flat iron steaks. You didn't think I knew that??? Is that something revolutionary to you??? The fact remains, Tyson sends out a lot of product that is cut out at the retail level which is precisely why checkoff dollars are being spent to educate "RETAILERS" how to cut out these new products.

As I have told you a hundred times before, rather than create an "ILLUSION" of what my position was, bring my quote and the facts that contradict it. FAT CHANCE HUH??? LOL!

Nowhere did I state that ALL FLAT IRON STEAKS ARE CUT OUT AT THE RETAIL LEVEL which is exactly the DECEPTIVE IMAGE you are trying to create. Typical of your pathetic deceptive antics. You have nothing here either, AS USUAL, PHONY!

The reason my posts are so controversial is because I tell it like it is and some people simply cannot handle the truth. Blamers want to blame, they don't want to know what packer profit margins really are. They want to believe that markets are being manipulated, they don't want to believe that their lack of profitability is not someone else's fault.

Tommy, who cares what you think about name calling? I certainly don't! You don't like me because of my position, not because of the manner in which I post. I don't see you getting on Conman when he lies. Your bias screams.

This post is a waste of time. Nothing I say or do will change unless I am banned from this site which would be more than welcomed by the blamers so they could go on blaming without anyone challenging them for the facts that support their "THEORIES".

IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY POSTS, DON'T READ THEM!

It's that damn simple!



~SH~

 

[Anonymous]

Reader (the second): "I have not found sarcasm to be widely appreciated here. It is perceived as boldness and meanness and what is worse than a bold and mean woman? I mean REALLY?! The scum of the earth."

QUICK, SOMEONE DIAL 911!

READER IS BEING FORCED TO READ SARCASTIC POSTS FROM THE "SCUM OF THE EARTH" AGAINST HER WILL!

How's that for sarcasm?

Forum police...........sheeesh!

I guess I find whiny BSE "fear mongering" posts offensive but since I don't own this site, I'll guess I'll just have to put up with them OR NOT READ THEM huh????

Ross Perot: "Are you getting this? Am I going too fast"?

No need to respond because I could care less what you think of me or anyone else for that matter.

This forum is about the message, not the manner in which A MESSAGE THAT YOU HAPPEN TO DISAGREE WITH was delivered.



~SH~

 

[mrj]

I didn't say SH was "self-outed".......didn't someone else identify him?

MRJ

MRJ, my point was that the identity of several of us is known...look at all the people that link their websites. SH's identity being "outed" wasn't that big a deal...and how did it effect his job????????? :???: :?

Namecalling is the worse form of slander and according to you on another thread nobody has the right to slander a person.

And you can provide the quote to back your claim????????? :???: :shock: :wink:

RM, my point was that way back when he was outed, very few people were known or had websites linked.

It would be nice if people would address others by the signature they use here. I do not have a real problem with 'name calling' when it is related to the statements in the post being replied to, BTW, but would rather it didn't happen and do not think it would if posts were kept reasonably civil and HONEST. bit suppose that is asking too much.

MRJ

 

[Tommy]

SH...Those who never bring anything to the table (Tommy) will always be able to talk about how the table is prepared or what color it is because that's all they have.

Scott what are you bringing to the table? I post things on here I read or look up often.

SH...Tommy, who cares what you think about name calling? I certainly don't!

Look at the poll numbers Scott someone must care about name calling.

SH...You don't like me because of my position, not because of the manner in which I post.

Are you started trying to read my mind again Scott? That is a bold face lie. I do not judge someone by the position they take on a subject, it is their demeanor I judge. A good debate is healthy and usefull.

 

[rkaiser]

Cinderella Tam says -

Namecalling is the worse form of slander and according to you on another thread nobody has the right to slander a person

Are you mad at your hero this morning Tam for blasting away at you like he did? Or are you going to say that Scotts post was meant only for others. :lol: :lol:

Give er shirt Scotty - I read every post as I read every one of Econos posts.

My opinions are closer to Econos however so I'll take the chance of being blasted by the StarShip Enterprises second in comand simply to make sure the ship stays level.

Wouldn't want those liberal corporate welfare views of yours to spread too far.

My kids don't want to farm so I really only need to battle the mutinational takeover of agriculture in North America for another 20 years or so. Then Scotty and his TWO companies can enjoy the freedom to compete with each other without me and my big mouth. :wink:

Oh yes, that is another thing that us bad guys do on this site. Take a few words that our enemies say and blow them up to make every Cambodian seem to be Pol Pot, or every American President seem like a Nazi (wait a minute GW is looking more like Hilter every day)

Any one ever seen the movie Crash. Highly recomended by the packer blamer of the century.

Have fun everyone. :roll:

 

[Tommy]

SH...This post is a waste of time. Nothing I say or do will change unless I am banned from this site which would be more than welcomed by the blamers so they could go on blaming without anyone challenging them for the facts that support their "THEORIES".

I would have a problem with you being banned Scott, I seem to remember telling the moderater that once when you thought you had been censored. You do remember that don't you?

SH...IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY POSTS, DON'T READ THEM!

It's that damn simple!


Same goes to you Scott, no one told you that you had to read and respond to this thread.

 

[RobertMac]

RM, my point was that way back when he was outed, very few people were known or had websites linked.

You're right, but Jason had his name on his post and I had my email addy which also had my web addy. After SH was outed, many of his opponents posted our names to make the poor boy feel better.

It would be nice if people would address others by the signature they use here.

Listen up, SH, Mama is talking! :wink:

I do not have a real problem with 'name calling' when it is related to the statements in the post being replied to, BTW,

Wait, she's giving you an exception? :???:

but would rather it didn't happen

Changed her mind again!

and do not think it would if posts were kept reasonably civil and HONEST.

Here's your out again...if someone isn't HONEST, you can go after them...but who decides what is honest and REASONABLY civil? :? :???:

bit suppose that is asking too much.

OK, SH, you can keep digging your hole! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This must be a "John Kerry moment". :wink:

 

[Econ101]

You really have a sense of humor Robert Mac. Too bad we don't see it more often. By the way, you called MRJ "mama". Does that count as name calling? What if she really is a "mama"?

 

[Anonymous]

Reader: "Not sure what I personally did to set you off since I have followed your good advice and avoided reading your posts or for that matter, your interlocuters' posts."

If you avoided reading my posts, how would you know that anything set me off?

Reader: "But hey, if slinging mud all over the place will cheer you up, sling away."

Allow me to introduce you to yourself, your highness..............

Reader: "I have not found sarcasm to be widely appreciated here. It is perceived as boldness and meanness and what is worse than a bold and mean woman? I mean REALLY?! The scum of the earth."

Yup Reader, you shor nuff got the high ground on posting morality. I humbly bow in your presence.

Tommy: "Scott what are you bringing to the table?"

I'm contradicting lies and misinformation with facts with virtually every post I make but that's nothing a blamer like you would appreciate since the facts don't support what you'd like to believe.

How many times has MRJ pointed out to you how the beef checkoff funds are handled and you still have conpspiracies about NCBA being involved with the checkoff. Facts don't matter to you Tommy, you are a blamer who needs someone or something to blame. You've proven that time and time again.

Tommy: "Look at the poll numbers Scott someone must care about name calling."

These polls are meaningless and a complete waste of time. Nothing is going to change and nobody is forcing you to read my posts. More "ILLUSIONS" created by those who bring nothing to the table to back their positions. I refuse to vote in these stupid polls after fedup pointed out that people were voting multiple times under the same ip numbers.

Tommy: " I do not judge someone by the position they take on a subject, it is their demeanor I judge."

That is a bold faced lie Tommy!

If that was true, why have you not stepped up to the plate against Conman when he gets caught in lies repeatedly?

I'll tell you why, because he tells you what you want to believe. Blaming is more important to you than the truth.


Randy Kaiser,

Could you point out anything of relevance in your post? I failed to see it.

Tommy: "Same goes to you Scott, no one told you that you had to read and respond to this thread."

I'm going to respond to garbage like this Tommy. If you want to have a little bucky beaver badge pinned to your lapel that says, "FORUM POLICE" on it, perhaps that can be arranged.

When you can bring the facts to the table to contradict anything I have stated, then you will be taken seriously. Until then, you can continue to discuss the shape and color of the table that you bring nothing to.

RM: "You're right, but Jason had his name on his post and I had my email addy which also had my web addy. After SH was outed, many of his opponents posted our names to make the poor boy feel better."

Do you know why it was so important for you and your fellow packer blamers to figure out who I was? You needed to try to discredit me in any manner you thought you could since you couldn't refute the facts that I presented that you didn't want to believe. I knew how blamers operated before I committed to this post but I don't care anymore. I am going to correct lies and misinformation until the day I die and I don't care how many R-CULTers get their toes stepped on in the process. I still get the discrediting bullsh*t every day from R-CULTers but not one of your R-CULT supporters can back your beliefs with facts. R-CULT's dismal record in court says more than anything I have presented about their credibility.

RM: "Listen up, SH, Mama is talking!"

That should pretty much cover the chickensh*t discrediting tactics of the factually void.

RM: "Here's your out again...if someone isn't HONEST, you can go after them...but who decides what is honest and REASONABLY civil?"

The seperation of honesty vs. A NEED TO BLAME is sorted out in your inability to admit when you have nothing to back your position.

It's not "ME" that people do not like, it's my intolerance for R-CULT's lies and deception that people do not like. BLAMERS WANT TO BLAME and I threaten that need to blame every time I question their lies and prove them wrong.


This is exactly the type of post that guys like Tommy and Robert Mac like to relish in. It requires no research, no thought process, and no backing of an opinion.


~SH~

 

[Tommy]

This post sure must have struck a nerve with Scott. He has been ranting all morning about it. Although he claims these polls are meaningless, he sure has a lot to say about it.

SH...Those who never bring anything to the table (Tommy)

Talk about others who lie Scott, but it is ok when you do it...right?

 

[RobertMac]

R2, you had your point proven on sarcasm. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Econ, MRJ is a mother, so that comes under the HONEST exemption! :lol:

MRJ, no offense was meant. I think you are a classy lady...and that is an honest opinion.

 

[RobertMac]

Tommy, don't you know SH is the one who decides what is a lie and what is honest on ranchers.net. :shock: :wink:

 

[Sandhusker]

SH, "I am going to correct lies and misinformation until the day I die and I don't care how many R-CULTers get their toes stepped on in the process. "

Good grief. :roll: At least he is posting comments like that on a place called the "Bull Session". It is probably the best place until the "My ego and I.Q. are at inverse extreme proportions" site comes online. He and Terrell Owens could moderate....

 

[fedup2]

If you people are going to insult someone, at least do it with a little class, not the same old tired drivel. Here is a little help. Let me know if anyone needs more & I'll link a site for your training!
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If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake? :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:
:lol:

 

[Tommy]

RobertMac...Tommy, don't you know SH is the one who decides what is a lie and what is honest on ranchers.net.


I had a memory lapse Robert, I know that Scott is the "know it all" of RanchersNet and what he says is the gospel.

 

[RoperAB]

<joke>So I guess a group hug is out of the question? <joke>
For what its worth I had no idea there was so much bad blood on here between members.

 

[Anonymous]

Blah, blah, blah!

All the little packer blamers with nothing relevant to back their empty positions can always gather into their little support groups and make their empty meaningless little statements to eachother.

Such is the empty life of a "factually void" packer blamer.


Roper AB, it's very simple. I hate lies and deception so it's not easy drawing a distinction between the lies and those who tell them.


~SH~