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NCBA membership number up. How can that be?

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I noticed some of you on here who are NCBA bashers point to anything negative about them. But I noticed none of you posted where NCBA membership numbers are up as well as $ from membership. Whats up with that? How do some of you explain that?
 
Reader, isn't it strange how good news doesn't generate much comment here?

I'm VERY pleased with the numbers and it will be a great convention next Jan. Sure hope many of the new members will be there to participate. More cattle producers attending=more ideas for improving the cattle/beef industry.

mrj
 
Is the NCBA a voluntary organization? I thought it was a mandatory check-off funded outfit like our CCA.
 
From what I've seen being president of our local assn: The people are switching from Radical To Reasonal.Of course there are the true diehards of R-Calf that can't see past their noses..
 
Reader said:
I noticed some of you on here who are NCBA bashers point to anything negative about them. But I noticed none of you posted where NCBA membership numbers are up as well as $ from membership. Whats up with that? How do some of you explain that?
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It's the same phenomena with Obama - people drinking the koolaid without doing any research of their own.
 
It couldn't possibly have had anything to do with the John Deere program NCBA ran.

If you joined NCBA, you could get up to $1000 discounts on John Deere equipment, such as lawn mowers and gators.
 
Nah, it has to do with the fact that NCBA is focused on the consumer while R-CALF is busy blaming everyone and everything.

With the exception of feed grain prices, the cattle markets are primarily driven by the consumer not the backgrounder, not the feeder, not the packer, and not the retailer. All new money comes from both foreign and domestic consumers and that's where NCBA is focused.

Contrast that with blaming packers, blaming retailers, blaming imports, blaming USDA, blaming NCBA, blaming the checkoff ..... zzzzzzzz .....did I mention blaming?

~SH~
 
Sandhusker said:
Reader said:
I noticed some of you on here who are NCBA bashers point to anything negative about them. But I noticed none of you posted where NCBA membership numbers are up as well as $ from membership. Whats up with that? How do some of you explain that?
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It's the same phenomena with Obama - people drinking the koolaid without doing any research of their own.
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You should take the time to travel to NCBA's convention in Phoenix starting Jan 28. You'd find 6K cattlemen and cattlewomen working to solve issues and create opportunities. The state of Neb usually has one of the top 5 traveling groups. There's a Neb caucas meeting, which you'd be welcome to attend. Many of the best and brightest minds Neb has to offer the beef industry would be in the room. Might be kinda fun to hang out with a "glass is half full" crowd for awhile.
 
Per, NCBA is a professional organization for cattle producers. We pay dues, determine policy, etc.

NCBA also is one of many groups doing contract work for the CBB , governing body of the Beef Checkoff.

CBB is comprised of more than 100 representatives of virtually all national cattle organizations in the country, including breed associations, state cattle orgs., livestock market assoc. members, (big mistake, IMO, why not our feed, fuel, dealers, bankers, whoever sells us services,too?), elected or appointed by their respective group.

Contracts are awarded on a cost recovery only basis.

Cinch, many affiliates of NCBA have offered discounts to members. Just remember, to get a $1,000.00 discount, one must spend several thousand dollars.........such discounts generally are a token amount and a nice perk, but certainly not the only reason anyone joins NCBA.

I join Beefman in inviting anyone to attend the convention and learn why the members appreciate NCBA. There are likely to be several issues discussed and plans made for the coming year. CattleWomen and CBB meet at the same place in the same time frame. THere are great subjects in the Cattlemens College workshops, committee meetings, and in the Trade Show.....and more!!!! It is great to learn from discussions with cattle people across the nation and around the world, too. SD will have strong representation there, too.

mrj
 
Haven't you read news releases on that subject? Or listened to Agri-Talk? The program where that issue was mentioned may still be on their calendar so you could access it, if you are interested.

mrj
 
mrj said:
Haven't you read news releases on that subject? Or listened to Agri-Talk? The program where that issue was mentioned may still be on their calendar so you could access it, if you are interested.

mrj
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I have not seen a single thing from NCBA on the topic.
 
Sandhusker, just click on http://www.beefusa.org/NEWSNCBAStatementonAntitrustLawsuitAgainstJBSAcquisition. to read it for yourself and to find their other news releases. I've seen earlier comments from NCBA in many Ag publications ever since the JBS deal came up.

Andy Groseta made a statement, condensed here. by mrj. As JJBS increased its ownership in packing and feeding industries, NCBA supported DOJ's efforts to monitor, evalutate, and act on them, if needed. We encourage the process of due diligence (by DOJ), and we will monitor the case and impacts on the beef industry to make certain cattle prices do not decreae unfairly.

This is a direct quote from Groseta: "NCBA supports free and fair competition in open markets and believes this is the best way for cattle producers to remain profitable" and there was more, so check the site if you want detail.

My personal take is that with proper overignt by DOJ, getting more capital into the beef industry in the USA is a good thing. We in the cattle business live in, must compete in, and can benefit from the worldwide market place, IMO.

Cinch, if you would check out the NCBA web site, you will see that John Deere is not the only partner with a perk for NCBA members. Caterpillar also offers a deal on skid loaders.

There probably will be some nice prizes from other affiliated members at the drawings during the convention. People have taken home some nice trucks and other prizes in the past..........but the educational events and issues forums still are the best 'prize' for attending.

mrj
 
That link goes nowhere and I could find nothing on the website. You would think a cattlemens group would have their views on something of this magnitude front and center. Is NCBA for or against the acquisistions JBS is trying for?
 
NATIONAL CATTLEMEN'S BEEF ASSOCIATION STATEMENT

ON THE ANTITRUST LAWSUIT AGAINST JBS AQUISITION OF NATIONAL BEEF



Andy Groseta, NCBA President



October 20, 2008



"The members that comprise the National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) appreciate the Department of Justice's (DOJ) attention to the balance of competition within the beef industry.



"DOJ filed a civil antitrust lawsuit today in the U.S. District Court in Chicago to prevent JBS S.A. from acquiring National Beef Packing Company, LLC. JBS has already acquired Swift Foods Company and is currently in the process of acquiring the Smithfield Beef Group, Inc. and Five Rivers Ranch Cattle Feeding, LLC. These acquisitions have not been challenged by DOJ, and have significantly increased the size and capacity of JBS.



"As JBS has increased its ownership in the packing and cattle feeding industries, NCBA has supported DOJ's efforts to monitor, evaluate, and—if necessary—act upon these acquisitions. We encourage the process of due diligence and will be closely monitoring this case and the impacts on the beef industry. In particular, we will be making certain that the prices cattle producers receive for their animals do not decrease unfairly.



"NCBA supports free and fair competition in open markets, and believes this is the best way for cattle producers to remain profitable while providing consumers with high-quality beef."
 
RobertMac said:
NATIONAL CATTLEMEN'S BEEF ASSOCIATION STATEMENT

ON THE ANTITRUST LAWSUIT AGAINST JBS AQUISITION OF NATIONAL BEEF



Andy Groseta, NCBA President



October 20, 2008



"The members that comprise the National Cattlemen's Beef Association (NCBA) appreciate the Department of Justice's (DOJ) attention to the balance of competition within the beef industry.



"DOJ filed a civil antitrust lawsuit today in the U.S. District Court in Chicago to prevent JBS S.A. from acquiring National Beef Packing Company, LLC. JBS has already acquired Swift Foods Company and is currently in the process of acquiring the Smithfield Beef Group, Inc. and Five Rivers Ranch Cattle Feeding, LLC. These acquisitions have not been challenged by DOJ, and have significantly increased the size and capacity of JBS.



"As JBS has increased its ownership in the packing and cattle feeding industries, NCBA has supported DOJ's efforts to monitor, evaluate, and—if necessary—act upon these acquisitions. We encourage the process of due diligence and will be closely monitoring this case and the impacts on the beef industry. In particular, we will be making certain that the prices cattle producers receive for their animals do not decrease unfairly.



"NCBA supports free and fair competition in open markets, and believes this is the best way for cattle producers to remain profitable while providing consumers with high-quality beef."
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Sooooooo, are they for it or against it?
 
Thanks mrj, not a day goes by that I don't learn something. The more I know the more I know how much I don't know. :?
 
Does the organization HAVE to be for or against something? Most likely there are members who are 'for' it and some who are 'against' it.

The major point, to this date, there is little to be either for or against, IMO.

Of course, if you are against international trade, or you don't want 'outsiders' coming into the beef business in the USA, you probably would line up against it.

It will probably be good for some US producers, and hurt some US producers if their cattle do not meet the standards of JBS. Another 'player' in the market place seems like a possible good thing for US cattle producers, again, IMO.

Most likely, the issue will get some attention at convention and a news release will state the outcome.

I'm sorry you cannot find the NCBA website, Sandhusker. I will try to find and post the correct link. What I had may be for members.

mrj
 
MRJ, "Does the organization HAVE to be for or against something? "

In this case, HELL YES!!!!!!!!!! I'm just astounded that you would say such a thing! There is absolutely no doubt that this will hurt ranchers! Jeeze, MRJ, you've got a list of state's attorney's that are lining up against it because they know what it will do to producers and a group that supposedly supports producers isn't? How many times have you ever seen that? When is the last time ONE state's attorney stepped into the ring for ranchers? If ever there was any doubt who NCBA supports, this should erase it.

You say ANOTHER player will be good for the markeplace, but you don't realize that this deal will result in one LESS player?
 
Sandhusker said:
You say ANOTHER player will be good for the markeplace, but you don't realize that this deal will result in one LESS player?
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Bet that was news to her.....................well, maybe not!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

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