Sandhusker
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I'll start with MRJ's post as we were definitely off topic from Murgens original post.
MRJ, "{What is stopping you from enlightening us as to "packer's goals for the next 15 years....", and all the other things Bullard told you?
Same for the guy from Neleigh, and is he on the national CBB, or the NE Beef Council board? In either case, it would be very interesting to hear what he told you about the cattle/beef industry.
BTW, isn't it a fact that many of those "beef exporters" in nations you complain about being involved in trade agreements with us have, for the major part of the beef they might export, only non-fed lean beef. Can't you see that they might be interested in sending us some of the lean beef we need to ADD VALUE to our overly fat beef trim from our very high quality fed US beef? There already are, and can be more win-win situations re. beef trade for the USA. Each mouthful of beef imported DOES NOT mean another mouthful of USA produced beef will rot on the ground, does it?
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Packer's plan - MRJ, I'm really surprised that you would ask that. What they are doing is obvious to anybody paying attention in this business and also is easy to understand from a practical business standpoint. Bullard didn't tell me anything that I already didn't know and what you already should know. Maybe the leadership in your organization doesn't feel it is important to understand what the people who you depend on to sell your product are planning? We depend on them, isn't it wise to understand their goals?
Neligh - He is on the National Board. I asked him about the idea of promoting US product abroad but not here. He said that first of all, the importers don't like paying and would rather be out of the deal entirely. They don't feel they are getting their money's worth.
He also told of a meeting with J.B. Penn. The USDA showed videos of Japanese and Koreans buying US beef. He asked Mr. Penn, "are you telling us that Japanese consumers see value in US product?" Penn replied, "Yes". Neligh then asked, "and the Koreans see value in US product?" Again Penn said, "Yes". He then asked "So why are they so much smarter than US consumers?" Silence.
I also learned about that contract that NCBA received even when their bid was $850,000 higher than a competing bid. One of the members (a NCBA member)made the comment that they didn't know anything about the other outfit and they might just be fly-by-night. Neligh pointed out that making that determination was not up to the board and that the outfit had already passed scrutiny. Another person (also a NCBA member) said, "Well, I think NCBA has done a good job in the past", and that was it. The vote was taken.
As far as importing lean for our burgers - I do see that value. However, how much do we need? How many trade agreements can that arguement be used on? Finally I'd like to point out that the biggest importer to this country (Canada) doesn't fall in that category.
I'll start with MRJ's post as we were definitely off topic from Murgens original post.
MRJ, "{What is stopping you from enlightening us as to "packer's goals for the next 15 years....", and all the other things Bullard told you?
Same for the guy from Neleigh, and is he on the national CBB, or the NE Beef Council board? In either case, it would be very interesting to hear what he told you about the cattle/beef industry.
BTW, isn't it a fact that many of those "beef exporters" in nations you complain about being involved in trade agreements with us have, for the major part of the beef they might export, only non-fed lean beef. Can't you see that they might be interested in sending us some of the lean beef we need to ADD VALUE to our overly fat beef trim from our very high quality fed US beef? There already are, and can be more win-win situations re. beef trade for the USA. Each mouthful of beef imported DOES NOT mean another mouthful of USA produced beef will rot on the ground, does it?
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Packer's plan - MRJ, I'm really surprised that you would ask that. What they are doing is obvious to anybody paying attention in this business and also is easy to understand from a practical business standpoint. Bullard didn't tell me anything that I already didn't know and what you already should know. Maybe the leadership in your organization doesn't feel it is important to understand what the people who you depend on to sell your product are planning? We depend on them, isn't it wise to understand their goals?
Neligh - He is on the National Board. I asked him about the idea of promoting US product abroad but not here. He said that first of all, the importers don't like paying and would rather be out of the deal entirely. They don't feel they are getting their money's worth.
He also told of a meeting with J.B. Penn. The USDA showed videos of Japanese and Koreans buying US beef. He asked Mr. Penn, "are you telling us that Japanese consumers see value in US product?" Penn replied, "Yes". Neligh then asked, "and the Koreans see value in US product?" Again Penn said, "Yes". He then asked "So why are they so much smarter than US consumers?" Silence.
I also learned about that contract that NCBA received even when their bid was $850,000 higher than a competing bid. One of the members (a NCBA member)made the comment that they didn't know anything about the other outfit and they might just be fly-by-night. Neligh pointed out that making that determination was not up to the board and that the outfit had already passed scrutiny. Another person (also a NCBA member) said, "Well, I think NCBA has done a good job in the past", and that was it. The vote was taken.
As far as importing lean for our burgers - I do see that value. However, how much do we need? How many trade agreements can that arguement be used on? Finally I'd like to point out that the biggest importer to this country (Canada) doesn't fall in that category.