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USCA: TDA Issues Order Stopping Canadian Cattle Not Consistent With Export Protocol



USCA (March 4, 2008) - Texas Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples has issued an order halting the passage of specific Canadian cattle through the state's export facilities into Mexico.



The action taken is the result of an agreement on live cattle trading protocols between Canada and Mexico, which allows the trade of certain dairy and beef cattle, including breeding stock.



The U.S. Cattlemen's Association (USCA) hailed the action as appropriate and encouraged all livestock export facilities along the U.S.-Mexico border to join Commissioner Staples in his effort.



"The live cattle trading protocol reached between Canada and Mexico is disappointing," said Chuck Kiker, USCA Director and Animal Health Committee Chairman, Beaumont, TX.



"Currently, Mexico only allows the importation of U.S. dairy heifers under the age of 24 months, despite negotiations to broaden this to other breeding stock. The U.S. Cattlemen's Association and the Independent Cattlemen's Association of Texas (ICA) have worked to open the Mexican border to expanded breeding cattle from the U.S.," noted Kiker.



"Mexican officials insinuated that when the U.S. opened its borders to Canadian cattle over 30 months of age, Mexico would accept U.S. cattle over 30 months of age," continued Kiker. "Since the U.S. border reopened to Canadian cattle, Mexico has refused to accept U.S. cattle with the exception of younger dairy heifers. An even greater slap in the face is this idea that Mexico will lift its trade restrictions on certain Canadian cattle which will travel through the U.S. to Mexican destinations."



"Until Mexico recognizes OIE trade standards and begins accepting U.S. breeding cattle consistent with those standards, U.S. livestock export facilities should not be facilitating trade of Canadian cattle that are inconsistent with the protocol for exporting U.S. cattle to Mexico," continued Kiker.



The Texas Department of Agriculture (TDA) manages five livestock export facilities on the border in Brownsville, Del Rio, Eagle Pass, El Paso and Laredo. Additionally, there are two privately owned livestock facilities in Texas and three other facilities in New Mexico and Arizona.



"The TDA has received word that the U.S. Department of Agriculture has not approved the pact between Mexico and Canada," said Kiker. "However, if USDA allows these cattle to cross the Canadian border into the U.S., they will not move through the Texas Department of Agriculture's export facilities along the Mexican border."



USCA Director Emeritus Leo McDonnell said, "This exemplifies one of the greatest concerns U.S. cattlemen have had regarding countries with BSE such as Canada, and the lack of internationally harmonized trading practices. Too often, political science trumps the science concerning the health aspect and, as is often the case, the trading field is tilted away from U.S. producers. We applaud Texas' stand on the matter. After all, states are allowed to develop their own special rules concerning cattle coming into their states where there are health concerns. Why shouldn't states also have the same right with international trading partners where, often times, the health concerns are even greater."



Since December 2003, when a Canadian-born dairy cow located in the State of Washington was diagnosed with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), the U.S. has worked with international trading partners to harmonize international trade standards and reestablish beef and live cattle trade.



"Mexico is attempting to circumvent international trade standards," noted Kiker. "We're pleased that Commissioner Staples has taken this action and support his efforts. It is refreshing to have a Commissioner of Agriculture stand up for U.S. and Texas beef cattle producers and play hard ball with Mexico."
 
Aren't we all acting a bit like spoiled kids over this B@#$S@#$ Extrodinaire issue ? If you stand back and look at the whole picture it is quite ludicrous. First, we are all guilty of feeding animal byproducts to ruminents at one time or another,(some still are), then we point and shout, "he did it-he did it- he did it", and NOBODY wants to solve any of the problem as long as we can keep "THE EYE" away from ourselves. In 1,3,5, or 10 years we may have a far more difficult issue to collectively deal with than BSE, so let's quit being childish and quit running around trying to bite each other in the ass. Rant over! :roll: :roll:
 
And AGAIN the USDA and NCBA's claims that we will be treated the way we treat Canada has been proven wrong. Will some ever learn?
 
I think those of us that are actually in grassroots producers have retained everything we've been taught. When those that are "looking after our interests" start doing so, maybe we'll ALL make some headway!!! Wouldn't life be wonderful if we could all make just a little money? :)
 
"Staples is asking other states that border Mexico to follow Texas' lead. New Mexico and Arizona have three export facilities between them.

"Please remember your most important customers: the U.S. livestock producers," Staples said. "(Austin American Statesman, Mar. 4)

These significant statements seemed to have been overlooked by Mr. Kiker and Mrs. McDonnell in their press release.

This action obviously carries little merit as a health issue since Mr. Staples made this statement. However, it appears that the U.S. is fully justified in interrupting international trade between two other countries in order to defend its own interests.

We all need more people like Mr. Staples who will stand up for what he believes regardless of how shaky his platform. Muscle always wins out over minds.

It's not as if Canada has any greater transparency or taken any measures exceeding exceeding American (BSE) policy that they are granted this trading privilege with Mexico?

Why would anyone, especially Mexico, offer Canada any different treatment than they do the U.S.?
 
Why would anyone, especially Mexico, offer Canada any different treatment than they do the U.S.?
Maybe because Canada has admitted there was a problem and is doing something about it ?
 
You might want to ponder that question a while burnt. It all might come clear to you one day. :???: Why would someone want to deal with them and not us? :???:
 
Thank you, per. I will ponder it further. Of course, maintaining objectivity while doing so would be the trick, I suppose.

I wonder if it is possible.
 
NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE

MSC 3189, P.O. Box 30005 • Las Cruces, New Mexico 88003-8005



http://nmda.nmsu.edu



Office of the Director/Secretary

Dr. I. Miley González, Director/Secretary





MEDIA ADVISORY Fax: (575) 646-8120



For Immediate Release Contact: Doug Rains (575) 646-2804



March 5, 2008



NEW MEXICO JOINS TEXAS EFFORT IN STOPPING CANADIAN CATTLE GOING TO MEXICO



Las Cruces, New Mexico—New Mexico Department of Agriculture (NMDA) announced today its support of the Texas Department of Agriculture's effort to stop Canadian cattle entering México through Texas export facilities until México accepts United States (U.S.) breeding cattle.



Dr. I. Miley González, NMDA Director/Secretary, stated "The department is looking into all means of supporting the Texas decree and that New Mexico will work with all parties to reinstate full trade across all borders recognizing The World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) standards."



The U.S./México border has been closed to U.S. beef and breeding stock for over 50 months and during that time it has remained a one-way street for Mexican cattle coming north and very few U.S. cattle going south.



Other livestock industry leaders including the New Mexico Cattle Growers' Association (NMCGA), Dairy Producers of New Mexico, and New Mexico Wool Growers, Inc. join in support of the Texas led effort. "NMCGA is extremely pleased that Texas and New Mexico are stepping up and taking action to address México's barring of U.S. beef breeding cattle, yet allowing imports from Canada," said NMCGA president, Alisa Ogden.



Dr. González further supports the statement of Texas Commissioner Todd Staples, "México must recognize international standards and allow the importation of U.S. breeding stock immediately."

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OK lets see if NCBA or RCALF either one takes time out of their pissing match with each other to see if something can come from this.
 
It's not as if Canada has any greater transparency or taken any measures exceeding exceeding American (BSE) policy that they are granted this trading privilege with Mexico?

Brother burnt,

I can give you two clear examples where Canadian measures regarding BSE clearly exceed American measures:

1. Canada banned the feeding of poultry litter to cattle in May 2000. Despite recommendations from the OIE since 2004 that they do so, the FDA and USDA have consistently refused. Poultry litter contains poultry excrement, of course, but it also contains poultry feed which commonly contains RMBM. Hmmm.

2. In July 2007 Canada banned cattle specified risk materials (SRM) including brain and spinal cord from all animal feed, thus eliminating the possibility of cross-contamination of cattle feed during manufacture or transport. Of course this was a little bit tardy considering that the UK took this measure in March 1996, but better late than never. In the US you can mix pig feed containing RMBM one day and switch on the same production line to calf starter the next. Given that it takes 1mg of infected brain tissue to transmit BSE to a calf, this can be fairly said to be problematic from the BSE prevention and control point of view (which the OIE has also pointed out). Hmmm again.

Hasta la vista.
 
Shaft said:
It's not as if Canada has any greater transparency or taken any measures exceeding exceeding American (BSE) policy that they are granted this trading privilege with Mexico?

Brother burnt,

I can give you two clear examples where Canadian measures regarding BSE clearly exceed American measures:

1. Canada banned the feeding of poultry litter to cattle in May 2000. Despite recommendations from the OIE since 2004 that they do so, the FDA and USDA have consistently refused. Poultry litter contains poultry excrement, of course, but it also contains poultry feed which commonly contains RMBM. Hmmm.

2. In July 2007 Canada banned cattle specified risk materials (SRM) including brain and spinal cord from all animal feed, thus eliminating the possibility of cross-contamination of cattle feed during manufacture or transport. Of course this was a little bit tardy considering that the UK took this measure in March 1996, but better late than never. In the US you can mix pig feed containing RMBM one day and switch on the same production line to calf starter the next. Given that it takes 1mg of infected brain tissue to transmit BSE to a calf, this can be fairly said to be problematic from the BSE prevention and control point of view (which the OIE has also pointed out). Hmmm again.

Hasta la vista.

The problem is we feed cattle nutrients, not food(same problem with the Western diet for humans).

Poultry litter and MBM are nutrients, not food!!!
 
This is from 3 years ago, but are Hawaiian cattle still going thru Vancouver? and how are cattle transported to Alaska, land or sea?



March 4, 2005
Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Fisheries

B.C. DEMANDS HALT TO U.S. CATTLE SHIPPING VIA VANCOUVER


VICTORIA – Canada must immediately stop the U.S. from shipping live cattle from Hawaii through Vancouver to the continental U.S., Minister of Agriculture, Food and Fisheries John van Dongen told the federal government today.

"I believe we need to send a strong message to the United States that opposition to the border opening is not based on science or good economics but rather on domestic trade protectionism," van Dongen wrote in a strongly worded letter today to Andy Mitchell, federal minister of agriculture responsible for the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and David Peterson, minister for international trade.



"Canadian beef is safe and does not present a health risk to Americans as confirmed by both the U.S. Department of Agriculture and U.S. Animal Plant and Health Inspection Service. I am still confident reason will prevail, but urge Canada to stop the U.S. trans-shipments through Vancouver until that happens."



Some 11,000 live animals from Hawaii move through the port each year, where they spend a 15-day "rest" period. The agreement to allow U.S. cattle through Vancouver was made in Spring 2004 between the federal CFIA and the USDA, van Dongen said.



"It is difficult to explain the fairness of this when the U.S. earlier wouldn't even let Canadian breeding cattle move through the U.S. to Mexico," van Dongen said.
 
Funny how we hear we should find other markets then the USA and when we do we are not allowed to service them.

Just can't make some people happy. :roll:
 
Big Muddy rancher said:
Funny how we hear we should find other markets then the USA and when we do we are not allowed to service them.

Just can't make some people happy. :roll:

You can still service that market.
 
Shaft said:
It's not as if Canada has any greater transparency or taken any measures exceeding exceeding American (BSE) policy that they are granted this trading privilege with Mexico?

Brother burnt,

I can give you two clear examples where Canadian measures regarding BSE clearly exceed American measures:

1. Canada banned the feeding of poultry litter to cattle in May 2000. Despite recommendations from the OIE since 2004 that they do so, the FDA and USDA have consistently refused. Poultry litter contains poultry excrement, of course, but it also contains poultry feed which commonly contains RMBM. Hmmm.

2. In July 2007 Canada banned cattle specified risk materials (SRM) including brain and spinal cord from all animal feed, thus eliminating the possibility of cross-contamination of cattle feed during manufacture or transport. Of course this was a little bit tardy considering that the UK took this measure in March 1996, but better late than never. In the US you can mix pig feed containing RMBM one day and switch on the same production line to calf starter the next. Given that it takes 1mg of infected brain tissue to transmit BSE to a calf, this can be fairly said to be problematic from the BSE prevention and control point of view (which the OIE has also pointed out). Hmmm again.

Hasta la vista.

So is it the corn or the chicken crap that gives American beef its distinct flavor.

In all fairness we should also include reason #3. The US still hasn't removed downers from the human food supply. :oops:

http://www.latimes.com/news/education/la-me-humane31jan31,1,5209685.story
 
Texas Runs Interference On Canada-Mexico Cattle Trade

The Texas Department of Agriculture (TAD) said Friday that Mexico has offered a new trade protocol to USDA regarding the import of U.S. cattle following the state ag commissioner's announcement that certain Canadian cattle breeds would be prohibited from entering Mexico by way of Texas export facilities due to unfair trade practices.

"Although details of this offer have not yet been shared, the fact an offer has been made is proof of progress," Texas Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples said in a statement.

Canada and Mexico have signed an agreement allowing the trade of certain dairy and beef cattle less than 30 months of age, including breeding stock. Mexico presently only allows the importation of U.S. dairy heifers younger than 24 months of age, despite international negotiations aimed at including breeding stock, TAD said.

"We must set aside political science and make decisions with our trading partners based upon sound science," Staples said.

By Tom Johnston on Monday, March 10, 2008 For Meatingplace.com.
 
Sandhusker said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Funny how we hear we should find other markets then the USA and when we do we are not allowed to service them.

Just can't make some people happy. :roll:

You can still service that market.

Can they?


Friday, March 14, 2008
California joins Arizona, other states in international cattle trade disputeThe Business Journal of Phoenix - by Annalyn Censky Phoenix Business Journal
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California is the latest of several border states to enter an international dispute surrounding cattle trade.

State officials announced Friday afternoon that California would join Arizona, New Mexico and Texas in urging U.S. exporting facilities to turn away Mexico-bound Canadian cattle.

California's decision follows an order issued March 4 by the Texas Department of Agriculture that would stop state-operated exporting facilities from allowing Canadian cattle to pass through to Mexico. A recent agreement between Canada and Mexico prompted the trade dispute, Texas Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples said when he issued the order.

Earlier this month, Canadian and Mexican officials signed an agreement that allows Canada to trade breeding cattle less than 30 months old. But Mexico prohibits imports of U.S. breeding cattle, with the exception of dairy heifers under the age of 24 months. Mexico enacted the embargo on U.S. cattle in 2003 after a single Canadian-born cow in Washington state was found to have mad cow disease.

Mexico is a critical market for cattle producers in the Southwest, said Patrick Bray, a representative of the Arizona Cattlemen's Association. The U.S. exports about 2.2 million metric tons of beef to Mexico each year, he said, and Mexican producers also imported live breeding stock prior to 2003 to increase the quality of their herds.

Once Mexico closed its border to live cattle from the U.S., Bray said, the market was flooded with overstock, which increased harvest rates and decreased cattle prices. Re-establishing trade with Mexico, he added, most likely would mean a price increase for U.S. cattle producers.

Unlike in Texas, where the state operates five livestock export facilities, such facilities in California, New Mexico and Arizona are privately owned and operated and do not fall under state jurisdiction. Nevertheless, the agriculture departments in those three states are urging private facilities to support Texas' decision.

"Texas has taken appropriate measures to highlight this trade inequity -- one that directly impacts this nation's cattle industry," A.G. Kawamura, secretary of the California Department of Food and Agriculture, said in a statement issued Friday.

Arizona Agriculture Director Don Butler said the next step is for the U.S. Department of Agriculture to renegotiate trade with both Mexico and Canada. The three countries, he said, should have entered a single trilateral agreement to begin with, instead of separate bilateral contracts.

Butler said he accompanied Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano and Gov. Eduardo Bours of Sonora, Mexico, on a trip to Mexico City in February 2007 in an effort to renegotiate the trade restrictions. Butler said he couldn't estimate how much longer negotiations would go on.

"I'm holding my breath, hoping this will get resolved," he said.

The owners of Michelena Trucking Co., which operates Arizona's export facility in Nogales, could not be reached for comment.
 

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