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Tony and some legislator.

SD, you would be right about the pheasant hunting that we dont have a lot of it here in NE NM, but we do have ducks and geese that get hunted. To me anymore with the attitudes most public hunters have, be they bird or big game hunters hunting has become such a pain in the a$$ that Personally I would just as soon shut down all the hunting on our place. That way I dont have the head ache or the liability of dealing with a bunch of crybaby public hunters.
 
A tip for you hunters.....................when looking for a place to hunt............................just ask the landowner if he gets gov subsidies. I'll bet your principles are thrown out the window if you think you might get to hunt some prime pheasant ground. It is just that you are wanting something for nothing and jealous if you think someone else might get something...............in other words you are a greedy hunter.

Also please show me where it states that if a landowner recieves a subsidy they must give up their hunting rights
 
The thing is I love hunting and love to watch the wildlife. I am pleased to let people hunt on my property free of charge. I have never asked for money and have turned it down when a hunter offered. there is no greater joy than letting a youngster come in and hunt on you for the first time...........heck any time.

But I will be damned if some dillusional moron comes in and thinks I owe him to let him hunt.................that he will EVER hunt on my property.
 
It may seem some here are crybabys, but the fact of the matter is, its legal to hunt the road. Now i have several landowners (which i am one also) that i have permission to hunt and get permission every year. I always ask permission, and would never ever go without. I hunt alot of private land, but there should be times where my son and i just decide to go hunting. and we do.

I know what the law is and when i kill a bird, my dog retrieves it or i do unarmed, on private property, just like the law says i can. There are some on here that want to put ever hunter in the state into one catagory, but thats like calling every rancher piles of crap when you hear of one that has their herd taken away because of lack of care. You cant do that. Whats crazy, is every one on here seems to have a story about how someone has wronged them somehow, and many if not all are illegal(big game hunting on roads etc) but no one every calls the law....they just b1tch about it. call the law!

By the way. I can also hunt rabbits, squirel, fox, coyote, skunks, coon, opossum........., legally from the road. I can even shoot them out of the window of the car! Not that its ethical, but its legal. Show me a rancher or farmer that hasnt killed a skunk or coon that way.

Ducks and geese??? I hunt geese in the ditches all the time. The pay to hunt folks dont like it, but its legal and very productive if and when your in the right place. I have sat many times in the ditch between 2 bodies of water and shot many limits of ducks. very legal, and very productive at times.

My youngest son harvested his first pheasant this year walking a ditch.
 
NO ONE has ever said they have any right to your land Passin Thru.. please show me where any of us, public hunter or myself, have said anything like that. The subsidies thing? YOU stated 4 things...1,2,3,4

and one was about helping the landowner..................thats where that came from. I also stated i help them, indirectly, by eating at the cafe etc..................The hunter is a very very large part of the economy in many areas of this state...even the public hunter. the ones that cant afford to pay. I ask all the time and am turned down on occasion because of $$ or someone else is hunting or they just dont allow hunting. THats fine. its their property and its their right. Its ok. I dont get all bent about it. thats fine. the next place will probably allow me, but if not, thats all ok also. If all us hunters up and quit hunting, your taxes would rise, many local establishments would shut down, many towns may fold up. Many towns, hunting is their biggest business, next to farming/ranching. You need us as much as we need you.
 
The ditch hunting tag can be interpreted two ways.

A guy driving along and when he see something he piles out where the pickup stops and blasts away

or

walking a barrow ditch trying to flush a bird out
 
Let's put it this way I respect hunters and I will reciprocate if they respect me.

But have one imply that it is owed because of some percieved inequity in life........they can hit the road.
 
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No wonder you bench about having nowhere to hunt. :roll:

"Unsportsmanlike" AND an idiot. :mad:
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Please show me where I EVER bitched.

Pretty sure I never have, I have plenty of my own land and some pretty good FARMING neighbors around that let me hunt if I want.

Since you want to through profanity in here you self-rightous basturd, how many wounded animals and chases with a pickup have you made through out your hunting carreer. Ever use bait to shoot something? Ever cross your neighbors fence without talking to him first?? Even though you know he won't care?? You are no innocent than any other person here of these things. You eating a donut and drinking your coffee while shooting a deer sitting on you ash from the window of your truck is more unsportsmenlike then shooting a bird taking flight from a ditch. Most of South Dakota's public hunters are more of a sportsman than you could ever brag to be!!
 
P Joe....................before you condemn Mike about throwing profanity around................go check and you were the first to start calling people names

You have lost all credibility...............so posting for you is a waste of time and gaining you a place in the hearts of all landowners
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Yikes this topic never seems to die. :roll:

Anyway,every year greg two city brothers think because the other two brothers {greg and Bob} own riverland its thier RIGHT to camp and hunt on that land{that we PAID for} any darn time they want,we're getting a bit tired of it,so decieded next summer we're taking holidays,setting up camp in thier backyards,going to invite just about any friend we have to stop in for a few nights,bring thier tents,kids ,dogs.....you get the point????
 
That is the problem with some of these hunters that ruin it for legitimate hunters.

It is just not fair that someone has all that land
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Us "good" hunters are gonna make it all fair
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A question, If I as a hunter hunt on public land and I do not have to pay a fee...........isn't that a form of welfare that I would be recieving
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I will tell ya this and its the absolute truth. THere are by far more landowners that break the law shooting big game from the road than the average joe hunter. I have seen it and i know it for a fact. They feel that since its their land, they can do whatever they want, including shooting from the truck, from the road and whatever. I have SEEN with my own eyes, landowners chasing deer with their trucks, 60mph threw corn fields, pastures and so on, so dont go telling me all the illegal crap is done from joe east river hunter because that is so far from the truth its not even funny. I would bet you the deer killed in your pasture was from a neighbor, neighbors kid or someone you know denny.
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Would you please prove this statement?
"THere are by far more landowners that break the law shooting big game from the road than the average joe hunter."
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If you have seen it, know it for a fact you were evidently present as long as you condoned it you became an accessories to the crime. You have the right to make a citizens arrest. Don't complain about something you had the ability to correct and chose not too.

I don't believe all hunters are illegal or all the illegal hunters are east river, quite the contrary I feel the majority of hunters are good law abiding citizens. In the same token I believe the majority of landowners are good law abiding citizens. Do I think one faction has more illegal tendencies than the other no and if I made that statement I would have the proof to back it up.

Do I like road hunting? No, but it has been deemed legal for birds.

Do I think it is necessary? No, there are enough other places to hunt.

I personally don't think that when the easement/right of ways were given for roads it necessarily included hunting. Right of ways/ easements have two determining factors. dimension, which is easy and scope which can be questionable. I don't think easements/right of ways given for roads for public travel also included hunting. I believe hunting is beyond the scope of the easement, but that question has never been before the court. Most of you whether you are in the city or country have easement/right of ways across your land or lot and I am fairly sure if you gave an easement for electricity and they built a bar on it you would find that beyond the scope of the easement.
 
passin thru said:
P Joe....................before you condemn Mike about throwing profanity around................go check and you were the first to start calling people names
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Last time I checked, Profanity and name calling were 2 differnt things! :roll: I think mike is a big enough person to defend himself. No need for "big brother" to step in and mouth off.

Do you honestly think I am trying to warm your heart to hunt your crap hole land? Silly little man, I'd rather stay on mine! Besides, the way it sounds IF anybody hunted on you, they'd owe you for life. And really, Do you believe that every "public" land hunter doesn't own land or that every landowner doesn't hunt. Are you really this stupid??

Funny how all the crap you type reeks of greed. MY land, MY right-of-way, MY taxes, MY this or MY that, dare I say "MY ANIMALS". You must really have some chip on you shoulder boy. Someday you'll learn that you never really own anything and nothing is ever owed to anyone.

Funny also how you can always avoid a question pointed at you by bringing up the same old crap that's been hashed over and will never be agreed upon. I'll bet I could tell you it's dark at midnight in SD and you would find a way to argue that it is actully light out! :o

I'll post it one more time. Have you ever given a dime to the business or home owner in the city for walking on their sidewalk?? How about left a quater for every foot of city or county road you have driven on. Bet not.!
 
Pjoe-I'll post it one more time. Have you ever given a dime to the business or home owner in the city for walking on their sidewalk?? How about left a quater for every foot of city or county road you have driven on. Bet not.!
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Common sense would tell me that probably the side walk in front of that business has been figured into the merchandise within.

I usually don't walk the neighborhoods when I go to the city unless I have been invited.

How many quarters have you left? How many quarters have you left to hunt State and Federal land? I pay for my use.
 
SD, I dont know what your state game and fish outfit is like but here in NM game wardens are few and far between. You can call and make reports but unless you are politcally contected you wont get anywhere. Last time we had a warden out here on this place my cousin caught him parked on the side of the road sound asleep. Heck the director of the department just managed to get himself in trouble for hunting on private land when he was supposed to be on public land. He is a real piece of work, thinks his way is the only way. Anyway I will let it go as it my opinion in NM that the only thing worse than public hunters is the game and fish dept..
 
You must be a dillusional moron, name calling and profanity are two different things. But with your name calling you set the whole tone for this conversation.

Ok, walking the sidewalk are hunting roadways are two different things, and comparing the two is childish in your part. Get a piece of candy to satisfy your childish want.

think I am trying to warm your heart to hunt your crap hole land? Silly little man, I'd rather stay on mine! Besides, the way it sounds IF anybody hunted on you, they'd owe you for life
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I just love the way you come up with childish assumptions. Go get a piece of candy.



nothing is ever owed to anyone.
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BINGO you hit the jackpot, that is what I've been telling you along but with your head up your arse I guess you missed it.

Funny also how you can always avoid a question pointed at you by bringing up the same old crap that's been hashed over and will never be agreed upon. I'll bet I could tell you it's dark at midnight in SD and you would find a way to argue that it is actully light out!
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Let's see you have never answered two questions of mine that I asked way before you asked a question about something that is of no comparison as I explained above. But children wouldn't understand that.



I'll post it one more time. Have you ever given a dime to the business or home owner in the city for walking on their sidewalk?? How about left a quater for every foot of city or county road you have driven on. Bet not.!
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Apples and oranges unless in your childish mind can understand that, besides you have a couple questions that I asked before you came up with this childish rant. Like I said the first time I hunt or drag a plow down, or move cows down that sidewalk of yours...........I will consider this question valid.........until then KMA

Do you expect to hunt on public land free of any fees?



Waiting............................................................
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Until you can answer that question
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All this brilliance being shown on this thread and then nobody can figure out why the relationship between hunters and landowners in this state is strained. The GF&P and Tony Dean keep talking about the RIGHT to hunt when it should be considered a priveledge.
By the way, I have no problem with road hunting if only someone would do it properly but out here I see 99 to 1 who are driving and waiting to bail when they see something. They use the law as something to hide behind. I haven't seen a Game Warden since June of 2006 so calling them wouldn't do much good and since they have to be caught in the act arresting them would just create a he said/he said situation where I wouldn't have a badge on my side.
 

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