Your favorite American president

[Soapweed]

I allways thought the peanut farmer was the best one you had down there. Seemed like a real sensible, intelligent, honest sort of a leader. Traits like that rarely rise to the top.
Canadian PMs? Well...... honestly never liked any we've had while they were in office. Hated Trudeau, although in hindsight you gotta kinda admire the man for his charisma, wit, and ability to ram things down the publics throat whether we wanted them or not. So... John A. would be the only logical choice for me. He had the vision of a great country and knew if he didn't hurry up and put it together it would have been gobbled up by the ole USA. Plus..... he liked to drink a bit. :wink:

The peanut farmer was a pathetic president. Inflation ran rampant, and interest rates got up to 18-20%. Probably as many farms and ranches went belly-up under his administration as happened during the depression of the 'thirties. Carter was/is a "good man", but was a lousy leader. He was a workaholic but accomplished very little because he tried to do everything himself. On the other hand, Reagan didn't work very hard himself, but delegated responsibilities to others who handled their jobs well. Things got done under the Reagan administration, and he salvaged the Carter Crash.

 

[Silver]

I allways thought the peanut farmer was the best one you had down there. Seemed like a real sensible, intelligent, honest sort of a leader. Traits like that rarely rise to the top.
Canadian PMs? Well...... honestly never liked any we've had while they were in office. Hated Trudeau, although in hindsight you gotta kinda admire the man for his charisma, wit, and ability to ram things down the publics throat whether we wanted them or not. So... John A. would be the only logical choice for me. He had the vision of a great country and knew if he didn't hurry up and put it together it would have been gobbled up by the ole USA. Plus..... he liked to drink a bit. :wink:

The peanut farmer was a pathetic president. Inflation ran rampant, and interest rates got up to 18-20%. Probably as many farms and ranches went belly-up under his administration as happened during the depression of the 'thirties. Carter was/is a "good man", but was a lousy leader. He was a workaholic but accomplished very little because he tried to do everything himself. On the other hand, Reagan didn't work very hard himself, but delegated responsibilities to others who handled their jobs well. Things got done under the Reagan administration, and he salvaged the Carter Crash.

Things allways look different from the outside looking in. I have about the same memories of him as IL Rancher, but from what I have seen and read he appears to be a great man. Perhaps he was a bad president.

 

[Tap]

RR is my vote.

I respectfully disagree with you Brad S. on Bush 44. He could have followed on the coattails of Reagan, but instead called Reagan's economic plans "vodoo economics". Instead Bush 44 was talked into raising taxes, and we all know that that is counter productive for business. Reagan's plan eventually got us out of a recession, made new jobs, and closed the budget deficit. I did like other points of Bush 44, but didn't respect those things he did. I agree that he was a good man. And I totally agree with Soapweed on his points about Carter. He is better at Habitat for Humanities, that he has been involved with lately.

 

[Jinglebob]

Carter was the first Prsident that I ever voted for. I think he provewd the old adage, "If you send an honest man to Washington, they will either ruin him or kill him or turn him into a crook".

I didn't like Ford and thought the pardon deal of Nixon stunck to high heaven. Nixon should have found a better VP.

The thing that pisses me off the most about GW, is that the Republicans have had the power now for two terms. They could have really turned a lot of things around. But they haven't!

The only thing I can see that they have done right, is trying to straighten out the mess that Clontons adm. made with the war on the west. And they could do soo much more!

I think GW has surrounded himself with some bad jerks. But in hindsight, 30 years from now, he may be shown as doing a lot of good. Look at Nixon, he was hated, but the farther we go along, the better his chices seem to have been.

I do think GW did the right thing in Afganistan and Iraq was a good idea, but iwar is always a mess and I think they knew it was going to be, and if they had let people know how big of a mess, we would never have gotten the votes to go in there.

I talked to a returning vet this winter and asked his opinion of Iraq. He said he thought it was great what we were doing over there. "Bringing democracy to a people. How could you do anything better for them?" were his words. I agree.

And the whiney libs who all voted to go in and now are whining to get back out, make me sick! Bunch of never get anything done, crybaby, bedwetting pussy's! They make my butt sore! :x

I don't think you can truely measure a president until after they've been gone for 20 or 30, years at least.

All the good press that Clinton got, was just the effects of the Reagen adm.
At least as far as the economy. IMO

Sometimes good men, don't make good presidents. And they are only 1/3 of the picture. There is still the congress and the justice dept.

I've about got to the opinion that it really prbably doesn't matter who is president, as they are mostly cookie cutter clones. I wish we could get someone who was savvy, smart and honest. but I sure don't see one on the horizson, and if we had one that way, they would probably just cut him/her off at every turn.

Until the attitude of many Americans changes, we are basiclly stuck with the same old , same old, business as usual. I'm afraid.

Maybe we will change some of that this fall in SD with the abortion vote.

 

[Faster horses]

JB, you said a mouthful.

Truly profund. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[kolanuraven]

Speaking personally....you won't meet a nicer, more humble, more helpful man than Jimmy Carter!

Yeah, he was/is a peanut farmer...but a Naval nuclear scientist first!

Really....too good/nice for DC !

 

[cowboyup]

George Washington, without him we would still be an outpost of England. Reagan is my second favorite.
My two most hated would be FDR and Clinton. I think frm reading history and because of all the welfare programs that FDR was a socialist at heart and would have preferred to be the ruler of the world instead of just president of the good old US of A. Clinton in my regards was cut from the very same cloth.

 

[Mike]

Yeah, he was/is a peanut farmer...but a Naval nuclear scientist first!

I don't think he was a nuclear scientist. Only a naval officer aboard a nuclear powered boat.

 

[RoperAB]

Speaking personally....you won't meet a nicer, more humble, more helpful man than Jimmy Carter!

Yeah, he was/is a peanut farmer...but a Naval nuclear scientist first!

Really....too good/nice for DC !

My impression of Jimmy Carter was that he was just to nice of a guy.
He couldnt get anything done and internationaly the Soviets and the axis of evil walked all over him. Remember all the crap that went on in the middle east with OPEC and your hostages that Canada had to rescue out of Iran?
Im not putting Carter down. I think he is one hell of a great human being. Kind of guy that on a personal level everybody liked and that most of us could only strive to be as great as he was. Just that I dont think he was suited for President. Just to nice of a guy. Plus he was a liberal and liberalism doesnt work :wink:

 

[kolanuraven]

Carter has become much more effective since he's out of office.

 

[Mike]

Speaking personally....you won't meet a nicer, more humble, more helpful man than Jimmy Carter!

Yeah, he was/is a peanut farmer...but a Naval nuclear scientist first!

Really....too good/nice for DC !

Jimmy Carter single handedly broke many, many farmers with his infamous grain embargo, and gave the Panama Canal away, Salt Treaty, among many other dumb maneuvers.

Worst President in history to me.

 

[Clarence]

I don't know who I would pick as the best president. My parents didn't like truman, and neither did I, but looking back I believe he was a pretty good president. during the past few months, I have had the opportunityto talk to a number of people who were just 19 years old or just turning 19 in the summer of 1945, they were stationed somewhere in the Pacific waiting for our invasion on Japan. The one thing they all agree on is that they would not be alive today if Truman had not made the decesion to drop the atomic bomb on Japan. Truman knew just what this bomb would do. Not many people have to make such a hard decesion as he did.

The first president I remember was FDR. My Dad did not like some of the things he did, he often said he never voted for him. But after the mes of three poor Republican presidents. I know he would have voted for him in 1932 and 1936. I don't know why he didn't vote in 1932, but he couldn't get to the election in 1936 because of an early fall blizzard.

Reagon was a good communicater and a down to earth sort of a man, so turned out to be a good president, but he was an acter, he just followed the written script. Teddy Roosevelt was a phoney, just a rich boy who tried to be a rancher, and a show off on San Juan Hill. He did change from a reckless, self centered hunter and adventurer to a common sense enviormentilist. I would put Teddy and JFK in about the same category.

As for recent presidents, I can't see where any of them have done much, but in a few years we may be better able to judge them. I still can not see why the Democrates ever nominated Bill Clinton, we all knew what he really was.

 

[katrina]

I liked both Bushes...... Behind every good man is a very good woman.. :wink: Reagan was okay, but nancy and her voodoo really bothered me.. :roll: Washington and Jefferson... What foresight they must of seen.... Brillant.. I think as years go by George Bush will be one of the best presidents we will see......

 

[Brad S]

Jimmy Carter is dishonest and incompetant. One of the first things Reagan did was to deregulate oil ald let the free market work (novel concept indeed). And the lefties all moaned "he's in the pocket of big oil" subsequently, office space in Houston was selling for ten cents on the doller - the left is oblivious to the truth.

Carter certified the Venezula election as fair and free where there was rampant fraud (coincedentally a socialist won), while criticizing election results in Florida where BUSH WON EVERY COUNT (coincedentally a socialist lost).


Its nice of Carter to build houses for the poor (the ranks of whice he contributed significantly), but Reagan built a hell of alot more houses by making people not poor.

 

[BBJ]

Jimmy Carter is dishonest and incompetant. One of the first things Reagan did was to deregulate oil ald let the free market work (novel concept indeed). And the lefties all moaned "he's in the pocket of big oil" subsequently, office space in Houston was selling for ten cents on the doller - the left is oblivious to the truth.

Carter certified the Venezula election as fair and free where there was rampant fraud (coincedentally a socialist won), while criticizing election results in Florida where BUSH WON EVERY COUNT (coincedentally a socialist lost).


Its nice of Carter to build houses for the poor (the ranks of whice he contributed significantly), but Reagan built a hell of alot more houses by making people not poor.

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[TimH]

I'll admit I am no whiz when it comes to American history. But anyone who had a hand in writing your Constitution and or Declaration of Independance would get my thumbs up for greatness.

The "We hold these truths to be self-evident...." phrase, always sticks in my mind.(translation- only a bonehead would disagree).

I would hope ,that in the eons to come, historians will say that these documents are among the greatest ever written in human history.

Just my canucklehead opinion.

 

[Steve]

Not really sure who is the best, we have had many great leaders....but in my life the worst was by far jimmy carter...

as former Navel officer he saddled us with the worst ships to ever be built...FFGs..and the penny pinching budget ruined any good ship that was in the fleet......sitting off the coast of iran with no fuel,,,no missles and no plan.....thank GOD they didn't shoot back.

oh yea reason I joined the Navy,,,No jobs,,,,,no education prospects....and the family farm gone......due to high interest and a big rotting pile of wheat......hell not even enough gas to get out of town....

 

[memanpa]

WHERE IS DIS?
she is so disgruntled she probabally hates everyone. no not probabally FACT of course i cannot cut and past like she can

REAGAN

 

[RoperAB]

I'll admit I am no whiz when it comes to American history. But anyone who had a hand in writing your Constitution and or Declaration of Independance would get my thumbs up for greatness.

The "We hold these truths to be self-evident...." phrase, always sticks in my mind.(translation- only a bonehead would disagree).

I would hope ,that in the eons to come, historians will say that these documents are among the greatest ever written in human history.

Just my canucklehead opinion.

Three words that make all the difference in their contitution
<WE THE PEOPLE> Thats how theirs starts. With we the people telling the government what the government is going to be and what the government can and canNOT do. In other words, with the we the people setting limits and telling government what their rights are.
Everwhere else in the world its the government telling we the people what rights we the people have and what our limits are.

 

[Brad S]

The American constitution is a fine work tracing its work back to the Magna Carta and the social contract theorists> A Hamilton is generally regarded as the drafter of the constittution, but B Franklinis my Favorite (he was a hell raiser/ womanizer). Hamilton was a student of Locke Hume and Russeau. France used to be good guys so I hold hope for their future.