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Oh, I know what that is! It's the Infrasinatus (Flat Iron) left intact with the teres major. Apparently, given the thickness, they have a run of darn thick steaks that they can market as roasts. Most of them are just not thick enough to do that with. Here's a nice resource to study...

And you are correct, ground chuck will have more flavor. If you can, ask them to grind the shanks with the chuck. It will be darker, and more flavorful also. Badlands

,FH, Right, it is the infraspinatus muscle. It's the one below the spine of the scapula. My point is that it is not a roast because it is only about an inch thick . I guess it could be if they tied it. Is that what they did? Just curious about it. Badlands

I bought a Flat Iron ROAST and it was delicious.

Thanks Silver. He bred just like he looks. The high tail head was a bit of a turnoff. He was moderate framed, and never weighed over 1800 - 1850. But, he did what we needed him to do; he made calves that were born unassisted from baldy and black heifers that weighed the same as their more...

PB Gelbvieh. New Day son. 1995 model. He was 4 in the picture. Badlands

FasterHorses, I tried to fix it. LOL See how well that worked? Click on it now, and it will take you to my gallery, I think. Badlands

David Pump at Two Dot still runs commercial Herefords, and he is close to you. Nothing wrong with keeping the F1's and breeding them. In my opinion, the thought of not using the F1's because they go downhill from there, is nothing more than old time purebreeder mentality. There are some...

FH, I wouldn't do it. There isn't the track record to suggest it's a good idea. We have used "other" breed bulls (since you only wanted to know about Irish Blacks) on heifers and got along great. However, those were sons of well known calving ease sires. By well-known, I mean well-known, not...

Last week I hit a bred sale and picked up some darn good second calvers for $1185. Very Happy Today I was at a different barn same town and these second calvers were good but I think no better then what I bought. $1550 to $1725 is where they traded.

Is that Nico sorting the beef? Badlands

What is the going rate in your area to put in jackleg fence? I am thinking it would be bid by the foot, so what is the breakdown for labor vs. materials? Thanks! Badlands

HerefordGuy; so beef breeds can make genetic changes more rapidly.

HerefordGuy, You are attacking the genomics side with the same youthful exuberance shown by your predecessors back to the late 70's. A couple of your colleagues at Mizzou are entirely capable of selling snowcones to the Eskimos mentioned earlier in this string. As stated by one of my...

Too many Veterinarians already think they are Nutritionists, Physiologists, Animal Breeders, Geneticists, and Economists. They are poorly trained to be anything other than an animal mechanic; which is what they are trained to do. Remember that nearly all of their Nutrition and Genetics comes...

"The only delight I take is in the I TOLD YOU SO" <------------------- The thinking of a very small man, right there. A feeling of vindication held privately is one thing; a public notice of vindication is egocentric. A mental image of a child with it's tongue stuck out, thumbs in it's ears...

I actually looked at this, too, NR. Only we were going to use flush brothers that were managed on two planes of nutrition. Might still do it sometime. Badlands

Must be a good bull, it's mostly a Montana pedigree. :wink: Badlands

Do you realize that the article you posted a link to was published January 1, 2001? I thought it was strange that it said Lewis Hagen was president of MGI. That was a while back. :wink: Badlands

People in my area never calved in June or even late May as a habit. Maybe 1st of May, but not much later. Of course back then the bulls were run year round so there wasn't really a "start" date, but from what I can glean, the calving really got rolling by late April. I would rather use the...