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Hmmm mentioning anal and kitchen in the same sentence makes me wonder about the germs..... :wink:

If anyone would actually read the financials of Ranchers Beef that are included in the Martinez document, it's easy to see a business that never had a chance. 2005 saw sales of nearly 67 million dollars but less than 3 million dollars of "profit" after direct expenses. 4.4% return after direct...

That isn't all that uncommon. I was at the Beef Development Center in Texas and saw the gain and feed conversion charts for bulls on test. Many low gainers were higher efficiency. There were high gainers with high and low efficiency, and the worst were the low gainers with low efficiency. Lots...

That's a crap assesment, not long ago it was blamed on a pegged currency. Now it's blamed on a free market currency. Sh!t happens. It can be sad that producers get taken out by market forces, but nothing in life is garanteed. Anyone that thinks thay have a right to make money in the cattle biz...

My cows are going to town as well. If I'm lucky I will be just able to pay off the debts and keep the land. Nasty stuuf has happened to my family as well as the no profit in cows deal. Looks like Canada will become a non export country soon. If we lose all the producers I thik we will, the...

Multiple factors. Fats are hanging at $78 cwt with downward pressure. Cost of gain at feedlots is projected at 90 cents because of high grain prices, forage rates are based on grain prices as well. A common silage formula is 10 times the cash barley bushel price for a wet ton of silage...

Till might have something to do with the machine, not the clerk? I wonder how many of the "stats" are accurate. Take 36 million divide by 24 = 1.5 million divide by 60 equals 25,000 . Points say they make 20928 in profit each minute...That would be over 81% profit on every dollar.

I merely used the steam as one example. It was mentioned in an article and apperantly it took the e-coli and made it airborne, landing everywhere. Current practice is to clean the entire area each day after shift. If the lines had to be shut down durng a shift, costs would be huge. A couple...

What do you think their next target will be? If they get away with this one cattle slaughter will be next.

Some expensive controls implimented have actually been the problem. I have read where steam cleaning equipment actually just spread the e-coli contaminant all over the plant instead of eliminating it. Good old fashioned bleach and hand washing proved more effective than the thousands spent on...

The absolute first thing you need to do is know the rail price and the processing costs. Just adding those 2 costs together is selling below wholesale. You have gained nothing for your effort, no matter how enjoyable you may have found it. PureCountry, wait for the questions most consumers...

I read an article where many folks think it is good there are recalls like this. To them it shows someone is watching and is protecting them. It makes them confident that the system in place works.

The scare tactics of foreign beef have been used for years, hasn't happened yet. The higher freight costs get the less likely raw materials will move great distances. Integrated beef supply is most likely the way the industry will survive. It can't be based on the chicken or pork models...

And somehow you think those countries won't experience the same pressures? Australia has most of their cattle industry in shambles from their extended drought. South America is under watch for foot and mouth. Only processed beef is allowed in. To try to bring up many Central American calves...

So now we all agree the most limiting factor in profitable cattle production is land costs. Is it easier for producers to control the cattle to the retail beef stage? Or is it easier for packers to control the cattle back to the ranch? The point about the cost of the land is that there comes a...

The very word integrated means each aspect is integral, or equally important to the whole. For any industry to be completely integrated, all have to make sufficient profits to survive and continue to produce. If we use the land size of 40 acres per cow/calf unit, and say an arbitrary value of...

Ben, don't start the where did I say that routine. Go back and re-read your posts. Now you tell me packers that had the same regulations as you and paid less for cattle survived, proving huge profits in the packing business. Yet a small premium and the same expenses forced you under. If the...

As usual it comes back to land prices, not packers that are the limiting factor for profitable cattle production. I was just told that barley is being contracted for April delivery at $5 per bushel. I have never seen that price before. That price will pressure ranch land values more as farmers...

Once you state you went out of business because of lack of producer support(read you couldn't pay as much for their cattle as others could). Then you state that you were regulated out of business. Somehow big packers have less regulations to process beef than small packers have? You have also...

I think both Rod and Horseless have a handle on this. There aren't many real 1200 pound cows left, there are some underfed cows that weigh that. Ultrasmall bw calves are not normal. The other thing that will determine ww is environment. Those that have enough grass for the cattle to express...