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There is a difference between wolves and dogs. Two wolves very likely would not have taken on a full grown bull. They would be much to smart for that. There are probably lots of other easier animals to prey on, and I bet you if there were wolves in an area that had been devastated like where these dogs were, the wolves wouldn't have been hungry in the first place! They would have been well fed. Why? Because they are wild, and they know how to survive.

These domestic dogs are not in their natural environment. Their natural environment involves being fed. So therefore when they get hungry, they get stupid.

I wonder what damage they did before they took on the bull? They don't look all that thin to me. They've been eating something for the past few weeks. I wonder what? :???: No, on second thought, I don't want to know. :shock:
 
Kato said:
They've been eating something for the past few weeks. I wonder what? :???: No, on second thought, I don't want to know. :shock:

Kato- you brought back an old memory...The reason I hate cats...One day I got called to check on an old bachelor that lived alone in a shack way out in the boonies- nobody had seen him for a week or two....When we arrived the smell told me what had happened even before we forced the door open...

Anyway this old boy had died in bed a week or so before we found him- he lived alone except for his 30 cats he kept in the house with him...The cats had several sacks of cat food available, but that is not what they had chosen to dine on....Not a pretty picture-Didn't like cats before that- hate them now.....

Really thought hard a couple of times of just throwing a match to the whole place- body, cats, and all......
 
Haytrucker said:
My little dog; obviosly would never be in that fight.
(and it looked messy; baling wire)
I'd bet that really happened, as sad as it is; and I'm going on record directed southerly: shoot your curs!!!
T Bulls first, then what would pass for a dog.
Those are not curs, they are pits, big difference
 
By curs I meant any undesirable crossbred dog. I realize there are probably some strains called curs on purpose.
 
Guys I was out of town for the first 5 pages of thoughts on this subject, however I would like to thank you for posting the pictures. My wife and I had our first baby about six months ago, and shortly our neighbors invested in 3 pit bulls. I knew they were bad but never really realized how much they ought to scare me until I saw the pictures. I think the handwriting might be on the wall. Thanks again.
 
Angus Breeder said:
Guys I was out of town for the first 5 pages of thoughts on this subject, however I would like to thank you for posting the pictures. My wife and I had our first baby about six months ago, and shortly our neighbors invested in 3 pit bulls. I knew they were bad but never really realized how much they ought to scare me until I saw the pictures. I think the handwriting might be on the wall. Thanks again.
Angus Breeder - I don't know where you are from, or what kind of relationship you have with you neighbor's, however, I think for the purpose of setting the record straight I would, in a very friendly manner, express to your neighbor your apprehensions regarding their dogs. You will probably get the same old story that THEIR dogs are so-o-o sweet, and s-o-o-o wonderful, and wouldn't hurt a fly! Well, you are not concerned as to whether they would hurt a fly or not, but you are concerned about whether if, for ANY - ANY reason in the future, your children might be the target of an accident with their dogs. I would also check with the State and Local authorities as to what the law says about Pit Bulls. I have owned dogs whose ancestors were bred and trained as Bear Hunters and Pit Fighters, (Not Pit Bulls) and I can tell you that they are a handful to handle!! They were Akita's, and with my family and me they were terrific, but with other DOGS - they were Hell on Wheels. I know what I am talking about. The genetics that are built into pit bulls are THERE, and some day- some way they might exhibit their "built-in" characteristics. Make no mistake about it! It might just take a slight movement or a look or a different sound than they are accustomed to or you or your child may accidentally squeeze their ears, or pinch their hide a little too much or ANYTHING -ANYTHING AT ALL - -and it's 'Kattie Bar The Door" and the damage is done and you may have a dead or maimed child or perhaps yourself. I am not trying to scare you - but I am trying to prevent your being on the wrong end of a catastrophy. Make sure that your neighbor REALLY KNOWS exactly how you feel. I think that anyone who would own THREE pit bulls in light of the trouble that they have been causing in the country lately are damned fools. But that is just my opinion!

DOC HARRIS

Angus Breeder- I just re-read my post above. and I have to change something that I wrote. YES - I AM trying to scare you. - - better believe it! It isn't necessarilly that the dogs are "viscious". They are the results of "Genes", and you know what Genes can do. It depends upon what genes the dogs have, and neither you NOR your neighbor knows exactly of what those dogs make-up consists. Don't take this lightly!! Get prepared and stay prepared.

DOC HARRIS
 
Angus Breeder said:
Guys I was out of town for the first 5 pages of thoughts on this subject, however I would like to thank you for posting the pictures. My wife and I had our first baby about six months ago, and shortly our neighbors invested in 3 pit bulls. I knew they were bad but never really realized how much they ought to scare me until I saw the pictures. I think the handwriting might be on the wall. Thanks again.

Not much of an "Investment" if you ask me. Of course all the owners say they are good dogs, but...........don't trust them. Ever. They may never bother anyone........but you don't know that for sure.

If those dogs aren't penned in a secure pen, I would sound the warning ASAP.
 
We have quite a few neighbors they tend to get new dogs every spring seems once they start running the area they end up in the back of my truck and then on a rock pile somewhere.JUST SHOOT THEM...I have no problem killing problem dogs and a dog at the neighbors is a problem mine or theirs.
 
Your right I did get the story that they were the sweetest dogs in the world. This would have been more beleivable had a few weeks later the dogs chase me back to the house while I was weed eating the ditch. Now when I weed eat or stray toward the edges of the yard I slide my trusty GLOCK into my back pocket. Some people just don't get it.
 
1 dog good dog

2 dog 1/2 dog

3 dog dead dog

and your neighbor has 3 you say thats a no brainer
 
Denny said:
.JUST SHOOT THEM...I have no problem killing problem dogs and a dog at the neighbors is a problem mine or theirs.

Sure glad your not my neighbor! :mad:

If a dog or something else is a problem, deal with it, but your statement makes it sound like you are trying to enforce your views and ideas, on anyone around you.

If my next door neighbor had pits or pet lions or any other dangerous animal and I lived in a town, I would get worried. My neighbors are a mile away and I have had the neighbors dogs show up once in awhile and have sent them home and/or called the neighbors. None have ever caused a problem.

I would shoot one if it was cauing a problem. But then, we try to know and get along with our neighbors in this area.

Matter of fact, the family to the west has been here for 100 years as have we and the one to the east is a new comer and only been here for 40 or 50 years! :lol:

Sounds like some of you are in just too crowded of an area. :wink:
 
Don't get me wrong, We have a 3 year old Choclate Lab and love her dearly, however she has the ability to retreive bred into her not the ability or fondness to kill. That being said if she ever acted aggresively towards children I would put her down in the blink of an eye as hard as that is to say! There is just an erie feeling of helplesness when you are being chased across your own yard!!!!! Hope nothing ever happens but be prepared for if and when it happens. The neighbor lives about 200 yards from us. Crossing my fingers that she cannot afford them anymore or they decide to play on the road one day. Easier to explain a run over dog than anything else. I don't want to sound like a bad neighbor but there are some things that just push the line. Side note: She refuses to pen them up and the county has no leash law or viscious dog laws. Any thoughts on how to best handle the problem.
 
Angus Breeder said:
Don't get me wrong, We have a 3 year old Choclate Lab and love her dearly, however she has the ability to retreive bred into her not the ability or fondness to kill. That being said if she ever acted aggresively towards children I would put her down in the blink of an eye as hard as that is to say! There is just an erie feeling of helplesness when you are being chased across your own yard!!!!! Hope nothing ever happens but be prepared for if and when it happens. The neighbor lives about 200 yards from us. Crossing my fingers that she cannot afford them anymore or they decide to play on the road one day. Easier to explain a run over dog than anything else. I don't want to sound like a bad neighbor but there are some things that just push the line. Side note: She refuses to pen them up and the county has no leash law or viscious dog laws. Any thoughts on how to best handle the problem.

I am in total agreement with you. Denny is the one I was refering to, about killing all dogs around him.

I think there ought to be a law about dangerous animals. If they showed any sign of harming you or yours, you have the right to defend yourself. Especially on your own property.

Maybe have someone video how they act when they are close to you. Then if they would just happen to get shot while it was on tape, you would have a record of why they were shot and a good defense.

If there is no fence, I would think that you have a legal right to make your neighbor fence them in or at the least, you could build a fence to keep them out, tho' that isn't the way it should be. Do you have fence laws for livestock? It might be one way to get the neighbor to fence their "livestock" in.
 
A friend of ours in Wyoming had a small band of sheep. He didn't live too far from town, 5 miles or so. The town dogs kept getting into his sheep. He followed them home, found where they lived, knocked on the door and told the owners what their dogs had done.

They would not believe it. Denied it. Said their dogs were inside all night. He never got anywhere by talking to them.

Next time the dogs showed up and bothered the sheep. He shot 'em. Then he called the people and told them where their dogs were.

They still didn't believe him.

People just don't realize what dogs that run together are capable of.
 
Yeap we've had "town dogs" runnin our cows here lately, but most of em dont really have an "owner" they just run around and breed at will. One calf, I think I posted a pic of him, had his ears chewed off, was a pack of about 6 or 8 dogs on him when my dad in law just happened on the cow that'd just had this lil bull calf. She was doin her best to fight em off him. So far only 2 of em have met their fate.
These dogs run all over the place, are mangy, nasty critters. The lady that owns the local mom n pop store called the sheriff's dept about em. They said long as they are on your place, shoot em. So...she did shoot one, right there in front of the store. County said they had no way of dealin with stray dogs, other than to let land owners do it themselves.
 
Saturday afternoon I had a couple of "visitors" in the home pasture. That was their second time to drop by, so I took the pickup and escorted them partways home. They can really move with that horn blaring.
Next time will be the last time.
 
JingleBob

I like your idea of taping how the dogs act just to scared to lert them chase me around again or get close to them. I think my approach might be. We have a restricion on our street about breeding dogs to sell(property clause) and she has been running an ad in the paper trying to sell the litter. Penalty is proably just a slap on the wrist though.
 
Jinglebob said:
Angus Breeder said:
Don't get me wrong, We have a 3 year old Choclate Lab and love her dearly, however she has the ability to retreive bred into her not the ability or fondness to kill. That being said if she ever acted aggresively towards children I would put her down in the blink of an eye as hard as that is to say! There is just an erie feeling of helplesness when you are being chased across your own yard!!!!! Hope nothing ever happens but be prepared for if and when it happens. The neighbor lives about 200 yards from us. Crossing my fingers that she cannot afford them anymore or they decide to play on the road one day. Easier to explain a run over dog than anything else. I don't want to sound like a bad neighbor but there are some things that just push the line. Side note: She refuses to pen them up and the county has no leash law or viscious dog laws. Any thoughts on how to best handle the problem.

I am in total agreement with you. Denny is the one I was refering to, about killing all dogs around him.

I think there ought to be a law about dangerous animals. If they showed any sign of harming you or yours, you have the right to defend yourself. Especially on your own property.

Maybe have someone video how they act when they are close to you. Then if they would just happen to get shot while it was on tape, you would have a record of why they were shot and a good defense.

If there is no fence, I would think that you have a legal right to make your neighbor fence them in or at the least, you could build a fence to keep them out, tho' that isn't the way it should be. Do you have fence laws for livestock? It might be one way to get the neighbor to fence their "livestock" in.

Well lets see A large St.Bernard came after my kids dead another mutt killing chickens starveing dogs running around eating anything they can find city people who dont have the balls to get rid of there dogs (Oh There's a nice farm they need a dog and drop it off they do)If you have never been through this I dont think you know what you are talking about.If my Dog start's running to the neighbor's Ikill it myself or contain it in a kennel.

Around here we dont run on laws a 100 years old like alot still want to.....open range for one now thats a joke in itself....
 
Jinglebob said:
Denny said:
.JUST SHOOT THEM...I have no problem killing problem dogs and a dog at the neighbors is a problem mine or theirs.

Sure glad your not my neighbor! :mad:



Sounds like some of you are in just too crowded of an area. :wink:

Why your dogs dont stay home yep I killem...

The whole world is getting more crowded some can live with it others will live in the past.....
 

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