Aztumbleweed
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We as a nation have already have outlawed "assault weapons" all this would do is put more stupid regulations on law abiding Americans. As one famous American said "Give me liberty or give me death"
reader (the Second) said:Oldtimer said:Ben H- I'm not a gun control fanatic-- but do recognize thru time that as the technological advances came along it was necessary for the countries lawmakers to set some rules and regulations- which has been held up by the Supreme Court thru the years and even in their latest broader ruling...
But like I say- those that support anyone and everyone having access to any kind or type of weapon will be those that eventually lose us all our weapons...
Many already see all gun folks as extremists- and than when these gun groups support ownership of guns that have no real use or design than to kill people or fight wars- this fuels the fire...
Most moderate- and middle of the road folks- even gun owners can't see why anyone would want to or need to own weapons designed only for fighting wars and killing people...And the argument that they are needed to take on their subversive government- or protect themselves from the military- or makes them look more like whackjobs- and loses them more support...About the same as saying everyone needs a LAWS rocket in the closet......
I don't think assault weapons should be banned- but I do think there should be a much greater background check/restrictions for ownership- limits on amounts bought- so they can't be just fronting for some gangbanger group and buying 100's at a time- and tracing put on every one sold....
This is an excellent post and a point of view that I hope most of you can agree with. You should read it several times frankly and think about why you disagree, if you disagree.
Just because the Supreme Court ruled something, it doesn't make it right. They are supposed to interprut the law, not legislate from the bench which is exactly what they are doing by supporting any form of gun control.Oldtimer said:Ben H- I'm not a gun control fanatic-- but do recognize thru time that as the technological advances came along it was necessary for the countries lawmakers to set some rules and regulations- which has been held up by the Supreme Court thru the years and even in their latest broader ruling...
But like I say- those that support anyone and everyone having access to any kind or type of weapon will be those that eventually lose us all our weapons...
Sorry, but once again the Second Ammendment has nothing to do with hunting and shooting paper. Do you think Thomas Jefferson would have a problem with citizens owning an AR-15? My guess is he would prefer for them to have an M-16. You logic about having no use other then to kill people can also be used against handguns.Many already see all gun folks as extremists- and than when these gun groups support ownership of guns that have no real use or design than to kill people or fight wars- this fuels the fire...
Most moderate- and middle of the road folks- even gun owners can't see why anyone would want to or need to own weapons designed only for fighting wars and killing people...And the argument that they are needed to take on their subversive government- or protect themselves from the military- or makes them look more like whackjobs- and loses them more support...About the same as saying everyone needs a LAWS rocket in the closet......
I don't think assault weapons should be banned- but I do think there should be a much greater background check/restrictions for ownership- limits on amounts bought- so they can't be just fronting for some gangbanger group and buying 100's at a time- and tracing put on every one sold....
Thats the whole quote that I found. hmmm going to get the rest of the quote LOLMsSage, you don't like the last part of the quote in your signature? "It is it's natural manure".
Oldtimer said:Sandhusker said:OT, "I don't think assault weapons should be banned-..."
Well then, my friend, why have you been defending a ban?
I don't think I have- I've been defending the right to ban them or regulate them- just like machine gun ownership has been regulated....I prefer regulation....That is why I've always thought it would be in the best interest of both the pro gun and the anti gun to work together to come up with a compromise law-- rather than both their set in stone stances...
Trinity man said:I know those AR15 fully automatic would be nice hunting wild hogs. I could kill a herd of them then. [/quote
The AR15 is a kick...kills lots of gophers and give us a chance to get a second shot at a coyote (that has been harassing our calves, by the way) on the run
"The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."~Thomas Jefferson
aplusmnt said:Sandhusker said:Reader, "Second, gun rights advocates do need to work with the anti folks to solve the problem in a WORKABLE way instead of yelling Second Amendment and Constitution."
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? You ban AR-15s and that solves WHAT?
Just shows you how silly Liberals are, The AR 15 shoots the same bullet as the Ruger mini 14 Ranch rifle, but because one is shaped in the same style as an M 16 military rifle they want to ban it. Just more fluff and no substance from the Liberal!
TexasBred said:aplusmnt said:Sandhusker said:Reader, "Second, gun rights advocates do need to work with the anti folks to solve the problem in a WORKABLE way instead of yelling Second Amendment and Constitution."
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? You ban AR-15s and that solves WHAT?
Just shows you how silly Liberals are, The AR 15 shoots the same bullet as the Ruger mini 14 Ranch rifle, but because one is shaped in the same style as an M 16 military rifle they want to ban it. Just more fluff and no substance from the Liberal!
Actually some AR's are chambered for .223 and some for the NATO 5.56. Check the barrel. If it says 5.56 use 5.56. The mini 14 is .223. But the point remains, there is not a nickels worth of difference other than the 5.56 is a bit less expensive. One just looks "military". A lot of fun to shoot.
Sandhusker said:Has anybody noticed that none of our gun-control whack jobs has explained what problem this gun ban will fix?
The mini 14 IS on the ban list sorry appsThe AR 15 shoots the same bullet as the Ruger mini 14 Ranch rifle