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Two MAD COW farmers jailed for BSE fraud JAILED FOR 3 YEARS

Tam, "And what years was Leo talking about when he said the US testes 150,000 more head ANNUALLY than Canada? "

From CANFAX, "In 2004, there were 14.8 million cattle in Canada, according to CANFAX's Statistical Briefer. There was an OIE BSE incidence rate of 0.15 and Canada tested 23,550 heads of cattle for BSE, according to the CFIA's BSE: Enhanced Surveillance Results. There were 94.9 million cattle in the U.S., according to the National Agricultural Statistics Service. There was an OIE BSE incidence rate of 0 and the U.S. tested 176,468 heads of cattle for BSE, according to the USDA's BSE Testing. There were 30.8 million cattle in Mexico."

Do I need to subtract 23,550 from 176,468 for you?
 
Tam, ""READ IT SANDHUSKER The OIE recommendations according to the FAO, don't match Bill's do they? Who are we to believe at this point the FAO or ******** Bullard? What ever number comes to mind to make the R-CALF story a bit better works for you doesn't it"

Why don't you get the info straight from the OIE instead of this he said - she said little game you're playing?
 
Sandhusker said:
Bill, "Let's just say that I have done more than my share Sandhusker and more than you will ever accomplish"

How do you remain so modest?
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You see Sandhusker the real workers just get'er done .
I can and will vouch for Bill that he he has done much for the cattle industry and made sacrifices for it. I am also sure he will contribute much more in the future.

Your just the typical pencil pusher that thinks he knows what's best for the people doing the real work. Strange you don't work for the Government or R-CALF. :?
 
Cowsense or is it no-sense wrote:

It looks like lawyers aren't the only leeches looking to profit off of the cattle industry
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What kind of stupid and idiotic comment is that supposed to be??

I am already on record as to what I and my company will do with any profits from the sale of our urine test - so take that comment and blow it out of your pathetic arse!!

Once we pay for the validation and OIE approval costs, all profits - that is 100% dimwit - will go into prion research and scholarships - but then you were too busy playing with your bubblewrap to remember that statement I guess - jerk!!

We - that is me, not you or anyone else - just me - will be spending in excess of US$900,000.00 just for the validation protocol but then, I guess I do not have a right to try to get that back according to the rules in your world huh?? God, what a completely stupid world that must be cowsense????

Call me a goddamn leech you pathetic loser if you wish, but next time you decide to leave the safety of your playpen, be sure you know what the hell you are talking about. Christ, some of you people make me sick and you cowsense, put a whole new meaning on the meaning of the word moron when referring to me as a leech!!! But to compare me to a lawyer -buddy, that was the last straw!!!!

So cowsense, you want to go toe to toe with me on what constiutes profit bring it on.
 
Pee- tester : You have continuously aggravated me with your relentless use of extreme scare tactics concerning everything to do with BSE. You continue to spout off your version on this disease that deliberately counters the official stance taken by the OIE and CFIA. I will and do take their scientific stance as being somewhat more credible than someone posting under a pen-name on a website. As for lawyers it looks like you may have experience as I believe that it was posted that you were involved in a legal issue with the founder of your so-called test!
THE REAL ISSUE I FIND WITH YOU IS YOUR ATTITUDE WHEN SOMEONE TAKES ISSUE WITH YOU. THIS POINTS OUT YOUR REAL CHARACTER AND THIS SURE ISN'T THE FIRST TIME I'VE CALLED YOU ON THIS POINT!
 
Cowsense, the OIE, CFA and USDA claim SRM removal is the key to safe beef. They say that the nervous system harbors prions. Considering that every bite of beef that you take has nervous tissue in it, how have they eliminated prions by SRM removal?
 
Sandhusker; So you are going to jump on the bandwagon that beef is unsafe for consumption? Pretty irresponsible for an ag banker but not surprising considering your R-clag views!
 
BSE Tester, you have said you will donate BSE test profits to charity, but what about CWD test profits and human TSE test results?
 
bse-tester said:
Cowsense or is it no-sense wrote:

It looks like lawyers aren't the only leeches looking to profit off of the cattle industry
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What kind of stupid and idiotic comment is that supposed to be??

I am already on record as to what I and my company will do with any profits from the sale of our urine test - so take that comment and blow it out of your pathetic arse!!

Once we pay for the validation and OIE approval costs, all profits - that is 100% dimwit - will go into prion research and scholarships - but then you were too busy playing with your bubblewrap to remember that statement I guess - jerk!!

We - that is me, not you or anyone else - just me - will be spending in excess of US$900,000.00 just for the validation protocol but then, I guess I do not have a right to try to get that back according to the rules in your world huh?? God, what a completely stupid world that must be cowsense????

Call me a goddamn leech you pathetic loser if you wish, but next time you decide to leave the safety of your playpen, be sure you know what the hell you are talking about. Christ, some of you people make me sick and you cowsense, put a whole new meaning on the meaning of the word moron when referring to me as a leech!!! But to compare me to a lawyer -buddy, that was the last straw!!!!

So cowsense, you want to go toe to toe with me on what constiutes profit bring it on.
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WOW Ron. That's pathetic. Quite the PR skills you possess.
 
I guess I should expect to be vilified, spit on and taken as a chump by those on this board who think that anything and everything that the CFIA and the USDA says is to be taken as gospel!!

But, does that mean I have to sit back, roll over and take the crap and abuse from a handfull of ignorant idiots who find it necessary not only to question my motives, but to hurl abuse and rhetoric at me as if I was locked in the stocks?? Well, the answer is no, I should not have to accept that.

Nobody should.

Why is it that it appears to be only the Canadians that do all the whining on this board???
 
Time to test your pee for the anger gene Ron - even though profit has a dirty name in the business of BSEconomics - I would personally put my donation in somebodies pocket like Ron's than continue to hand it over to Cargill and Tyson. Even if he calls us ALL ignorant from time to time when we pee in his cornflakes rather than his test tube.
 
Jason wrote:

BSE Tester, you have said you will donate BSE test profits to charity, but what about CWD test profits and human TSE test results?
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The same applies Jason. As I have repeatedly stated, once we recapture our validation costs, we will be donating all profits from all TSE testing back into prion research and into scholarships to those institutions around the world that are involved in prion research.

The average cost of validation is about US$ 300,000.00 per year for a three year period. That is for each TSE - so you can see how long it takes to complete. But, once it is done, we still have to present the data from 3 years of validation wor to the appropriate authorities for review and approval. There is no rubber stamp approval waiting - we can still be told that our 3 years of work is no acceptable and we are then back to square one!! We are also out of pocket for that amount of money.
 
Randy wrote:

Time to test your pee for the anger gene Ron - even though profit has a dirty name in the business of BSEconomics - I would personally put my donation in somebodies pocket like Ron's than continue to hand it over to Cargill and Tyson. Even if he calls us ALL ignorant from time to time when we pee in his cornflakes rather than his test tube.
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Thank you for that Randy - but it does get under my skin when people like this chump Cowsense says what he says when he obviously knows nothing about any of what he mentions. So I get p**sed off big deal. I hate ignorance and from a putz like him, I never expected to be called a leech or compared to a lawyer - for that legal issue he tried to bring up - he truly knows nothing of it and should not rely on what the Edmonton Journal reporter wrote.

As for Bill's little jibe about me being pathetic, who cares - I am not here to win a PR pin. I am also not here to be the receiver of their collective crap either.

Randy, you know as well as any that I can take some and give some crap but to continuously be on the receiving end is a little too much at times. Why is it that it only appears to be the Canadians who do it???? What are you people afraid off????

Happy New Year.
 
cowsense said:
Sandhusker; So you are going to jump on the bandwagon that beef is unsafe for consumption? Pretty irresponsible for an ag banker but not surprising considering your R-clag views!
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Are you going to address my question or just continue to blindly repeat what you want to hear and villianize those who say what you don't like?
 
bse-tester said:
Randy wrote:

Time to test your pee for the anger gene Ron - even though profit has a dirty name in the business of BSEconomics - I would personally put my donation in somebodies pocket like Ron's than continue to hand it over to Cargill and Tyson. Even if he calls us ALL ignorant from time to time when we pee in his cornflakes rather than his test tube.
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Thank you for that Randy - but it does get under my skin when people like this chump Cowsense says what he says when he obviously knows nothing about any of what he mentions. So I get p**sed off big deal. I hate ignorance and from a putz like him, I never expected to be called a leech or compared to a lawyer - for that legal issue he tried to bring up - he truly knows nothing of it and should not rely on what the Edmonton Journal reporter wrote.

As for Bill's little jibe about me being pathetic, who cares - I am not here to win a PR pin. I am also not here to be the receiver of their collective crap either.

Randy, you know as well as any that I can take some and give some crap but to continuously be on the receiving end is a little too much at times. Why is it that it only appears to be the Canadians who do it???? What are you people afraid off????

Happy New Year.
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It is not for me to decide whether you are pathetic or not Ron although it appears you are not the least bit bothered in helping others make their mind up.

Your reading comprehension is as brutal as Oldtimers. Read it again.

I WROTE THAT WHAT YOU POSTED WAS PATHETIC MEANING . YOUR PROFANITY IS PATHETIC AS WELL AS YOUR LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM.
 
bse-tester said:
I guess I should expect to be vilified, spit on and taken as a chump by those on this board who think that anything and everything that the CFIA and the USDA says is to be taken as gospel!!

But, does that mean I have to sit back, roll over and take the crap and abuse from a handfull of ignorant idiots who find it necessary not only to question my motives, but to hurl abuse and rhetoric at me as if I was locked in the stocks?? Well, the answer is no, I should not have to accept that.

Nobody should.

Why is it that it appears to be only the Canadians that do all the whining on this board???
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Your right,doesn't seem like you get any respect from us Ignorant Canadians....maybe your test would be better accepted across the border. :)
 
Bill wrote:

I WROTE THAT WHAT YOU POSTED WAS PATHETIC MEANING . YOUR PROFANITY IS PATHETIC AS WELL AS YOUR LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM.
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Put yourself in my shoes for just one second and see how well you stand up to the constant barrage of abuse and yes, profanity!! I think that under the circumstances I have handled myself well, but I am also actually sorry that there are those that think I am nothing more than a leech, someone who is in this simply to make money on the backs of poor suffering producers and that I am someone wo should be burned at the next beef producers BBQ!!!

I shall, however, in the spirit of goodwill to all men and the thought of trying to bring about peace on earth, try to bring my good side to the forefront and be the perfect gentleman and Bill, thank you for pointing out my deficiencies like you have. I shall make every effort to correct my obviously bad behaviour. Afterall, it is a new year and we should all try to get along.

As for those who chose to continue to hurl their abuse at me, I cannot change them. But Bill, I bow to your wisdom in these dark and sad moments wherein I lost control.

Happy New Year to you and yours.
 
bse-tester said:
Bill wrote:

I WROTE THAT WHAT YOU POSTED WAS PATHETIC MEANING . YOUR PROFANITY IS PATHETIC AS WELL AS YOUR LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM.
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Put yourself in my shoes for just one second and see how well you stand up to the constant barrage of abuse and yes, profanity!! I think that under the circumstances I have handled myself well, but I am also actually sorry that there are those that think I am nothing more than a leech, someone who is in this simply to make money on the backs of poor suffering producers and that I am someone wo should be burned at the next beef producers BBQ!!!

I shall, however, in the spirit of goodwill to all men and the thought of trying to bring about peace on earth, try to bring my good side to the forefront and be the perfect gentleman and Bill, thank you for pointing out my deficiencies like you have. I shall make every effort to correct my obviously bad behaviour. Afterall, it is a new year and we should all try to get along.

As for those who chose to continue to hurl their abuse at me, I cannot change them. But Bill, I bow to your wisdom in these dark and sad moments wherein I lost control.

Happy New Year to you and yours.
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Although your response reeks of insincerity I will offer one further comment. You are another who is guilty of lumping anyone who doesn't support you into the camp of those who oppose.

There are many who are undecided about tests such as yours and are waiting for the answers to appear. We want the best for all involved and are merely trying to sort throught the chaff and BS. You are doing an excellent job of turning us off.
 

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